Getting Arms and Chest Fast

[quote]newbody72 wrote:
do you include the weight of the bar?
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bwahahahahaha
In light of recent threads this has GOT to be a troll job!

In case it is not a troll job…
OP: at 5’10 and 153lbs you DO NOT have a wide back, I promise you that.

You are getting some good advice here, in amongst that piss taking, but you are choosing to ignore it all.

The simple fact is that you are currently small. If you want to look impressive on the beach you need to build muscle on your whole frame, and that is going to take a while. There are a lot of programs on this site that will help you do that, there are also nutrition articles. Do some reading. Look up John Berardi for advice on eating for mass, try Chad Waterbury or one of the myriad other authors for a program. Westside for Skinny Bastards by Joe DeFranco seems to be very popular.

Stop expecting to be spoonfed.

newbody72 wrote:
why the legs and back? If I go to the beach, that is not what the ladies will look at first, it might sound a bit juvenile, but it is the truth.

newbody72 then later wrote:
hello, I didn’t originally post this to get a chick, I posted to see what would be the most efficient way to get bigger arms and chest. Somewhere along the line we went off on a tangent and got to this point.

Listen here, wastrel, you are too pathetically undevoted to even stick to your words posted earlier on this thread. How are we to believe that you have the dedication to ever even look like you stepped into a gym?

Back to T-Nation business…

All the stuff is B.S.
You want to look Beach ready in 2 months? Do what every successful dedicated little guys who want to be beach ready do.

Pushups to death, crunches, hanging situps, and throw in some pullups if you want to really get the girlies.

Then every day before you go out to the beach make sure you do some pushups. Throw some baby oil on.

You won’t win strong man competitions, and 250lbs guys will talk shht about how much more they can bench than you. And will tell their girl that you just look strong cause your cut, but you will definitely get more of the girls on the beach.

Oh yeah work on ya game too. Go to every bar and party and kick it to EVERY GIRL, you’ll take more losses than wins, but by time the summer comes you’ll be boning at min 3 girls a week.

I don’t think the guy’s a troll. I think he’s an average guy who doesn’t know anything about bodybuilding who came here asking if two months is long enough to make himself look noticeably better.

He didn’t ask if he can win a body building competition in two months. He didn’t ask if he can get huge. He asked if he can look “decent.” This is an average guy asking, not a body builder. He just wants to look better in time for the beach, and he’s asking what is possible.

Why can’t people simply give him the information he wants – tell him what is realistically possible in two months – without insulting him or discouraging him?

The answer is that in two months, he can add enough muscle that the difference will be extremely noticeable to him. His shirts will get tigher and he’ll be stronger and he’ll feel a lot better.

Of course the improvements will be tiny by T-Nation standards. But they will be very impressive to him. Because for the first time in his life, he will have taken control of the shape of his body and remolded it and improved it.

Maybe he’ll get so psyched up from this that he’ll continue training for years.

Everybody starts off as a beginner. Everybody is ignorant when they are a beginner. It’s not a crime.

[quote]FreddieY wrote:
I don’t think the guy’s a troll. I think he’s an average guy who doesn’t know anything about bodybuilding who came here asking if two months is long enough to make himself look noticeably better.

He didn’t ask if he can win a body building competition in two months. He didn’t ask if he can get huge. He asked if he can look “decent.” This is an average guy asking, not a body builder. He just wants to look better in time for the beach, and he’s asking what is possible.

Why can’t people simply give him the information he wants – tell him what is realistically possible in two months – without insulting him or discouraging him?

The answer is that in two months, he can add enough muscle that the difference will be extremely noticeable to him. His shirts will get tigher and he’ll be stronger and he’ll feel a lot better.

Of course the improvements will be tiny by T-Nation standards. But they will be very impressive to him. Because for the first time in his life, he will have taken control of the shape of his body and remolded it and improved it.

Maybe he’ll get so psyched up from this that he’ll continue training for years.

Everybody starts off as a beginner. Everybody is ignorant when they are a beginner. It’s not a crime.[/quote]

Ignorance may not be a crime but it is a complete waste of time. Giving people the information they want instead of the information they need is a false economy (unless your selling something to them in which case it can be a very lucrative economy).

If someone asks me “what exercises can I do to get rid of the fat on my stomach” (don’t you just love that question?) I don’t tell them to do some situps every now and again even though that is what they want to hear, I tell them that they need to fix their diet and that spot reduction is a myth.

They don’t often like this answer but it the truth, it’s what they need to hear.

Every person who reads this post and works out in a commercial gym can think of people just like the OP who are searching for bigger arms and a bigger chest.

They were searching years ago and they’re still searching now, if someone had been able to convince them that they should just put on some muscle, get stronger and then lean out after that had been done they could have realised the body they crave long ago.

To the OP, we’re not trying to break your spirit here, we’re just being honest.

[quote]newbody72 wrote:
This is not directed to anyone in particular, but I think someone thinks that at 5’10 and 153 lbs. I have a small back and never set foot in a gym. Truth is, I already have a wide back, not as big as a bodybuilder, but you get my point. I used to work out at a gym many years ago when I joined the swim team, but that was in high school. I made it a point to join a gym to get stronger, look healthier and feel better about myself. I think some people forget how they once too were beginners and wanted answers and quick gains. It saddens me to some degree to see how some of you forget where you started from and were helped by a friend or mentor. At the same token, you have just given me more of a motivation to keep going and work twice as hard.[/quote]

People are busting on you because you sound an awful lot like the 16 year old noobs who post on here all the time. If, as you say, you are not actually 16, then you are probably capable of listening to what other people have to say, so here goes:

At 5’10" 153 lbs, you are VERY skinny. You may also be a little fat, but your muscle mass is VERY small. This is actually good news, in a way, because if you start training and eating right, you will add a bunch of muscle mass in a hurry.

In order to do that, you need to convince your body that it HAS to add muscle. Your body doesn’t want to add muscle, because it takes a lot of energy. Your body would rather be energy-efficient than look good.

When you lift weights, the muscles that you work release signalling molecules into your bloodstream that tell the rest of the body you just beat the crap out of them in the gym, and they need some help. Harder work leads to a stronger signal.

Also, bigger muscles release more of these molecules. The more of a signal you have in your bloodstream, the more work your body does to build up your muscles.

That means that the best way to make your body a favorable environment for muscle growth is to train ALL the muscles in your body – especially your legs, where the biggest, strongest muscles in everyone’s body are.

Some people like to train different muscles on different days, and some people try to hit all the big ones every time they go to the gym, but everyone agrees that you make the best progress when you train all your muscles at least once a week.

Also, balancing your pushes and pulls (training chest and back equally) is really important for shoulder health. Training chest to the exclusion of back, or twice as much as back, is a good way to fuck up your shoulder, over the long term.

The other thing you need to do to overcome your body’s reluctance to add muscle, is to let your body know, “we can afford this.” The way you do that is by eating more calories than you’re currently eating. If you do it right, you will add a lot of muscle, and not too much fat. The added muscle will make it musch easier for you to lose the fat later.

There is a ton of good information on this site, and people here will help you out if you ask nicely. To begin with, I would take a look at Berardi’s Massive Eating Reloaded, parts 1&2, and Waterbury’s Big Boy Basics. Pretty much everything by Berardi, Thibs and Waterbury is worth reading, really.

Good luck.

Damn good post.

Go to the beginner section and read “Are You a Beginner?”. Here is a link to to the article:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=550116

As a beginner, the best things you can do are train your whole body, eat right, and read.

Well if you want to move serious weight, just think of weight in terms of 45 lb plates. If you want to track your progress better, yes count the bar.

Masturbate. Masturbate. Masturbate! Great for forearm development and building lactic acid resistance in the triceps (very true if your penis is especially long).

Just stroke the baloney poney until your arm goes numb or you pass out, whichever comes first.

For chest, hold yourself over a pillow in the missionary position and thrust away. Also works the muscles in the hip girdle. And don’t say you’d do this exercise with your girlfriend, because I know you don’t have a girlfriend if you are looking so desperately to impress women (or men) at the beach.

[quote]Der Candy wrote:
newbody72 wrote:
…that is not what the ladies will look at first…

BS. I’m not a lady, but a massive back draws a WHOLE lot more attention than a broad chest.
When you see someone with a huge back, you KNOW he lifts.[/quote]

I agree with the above. Every girl i’ve ever talked to has told me they like abs obviously, and then a V shaped back. Its the truth bro.

Chest: DB Press. Bench Press. Flyes. Cable X-over.

Arms: Cheat Curls. Dips. Alt DB Curls. Tricep Extensions. EZ curls. Skullcrushers.

But there is no quick and easy way. It takes time.

[quote]newbody72 wrote:
I think some people forget how they once too were beginners and wanted answers and quick gains. It saddens me to some degree to see how some of you forget where you started from and were helped by a friend or mentor. [/quote]

Quick gains never come from the advice that a beginner expects to hear, it results from the execution of advice that the mentor provides.

[quote]dez6485 wrote:
newbody72 wrote:
Stiles55 wrote:
newbody72 wrote:

I do want to transform my body, but not the reason you may think; I want to improve my life and be healthier. I am looking for someone to go to the prom with, I am too old (35 next month) and tired of being the skinny guy at the beach.

dang. at 34 y/o it really freaks me out that you are looking for someone to go to prom with.[/quote]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Dez, you are rapidly becoming one of my favorite guys to read their posts.

That was pretty funny. Seriously though, why is a 35 year old going to “prom”? Dear God…

I’m 17 going to prom soon, why the fuck are you?

[quote]greekdawg wrote:
dez6485 wrote:
newbody72 wrote:
Stiles55 wrote:
newbody72 wrote:

I do want to transform my body, but not the reason you may think; I want to improve my life and be healthier. I am looking for someone to go to the prom with, I am too old (35 next month) and tired of being the skinny guy at the beach.

dang. at 34 y/o it really freaks me out that you are looking for someone to go to prom with.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Dez, you are rapidly becoming one of my favorite guys to read their posts.

That was pretty funny. Seriously though, why is a 35 year old going to “prom”? Dear God…[/quote]

Maybe he is just finishing high school …

[quote]greekdawg wrote:
dez6485 wrote:
newbody72 wrote:
Stiles55 wrote:
newbody72 wrote:

I do want to transform my body, but not the reason you may think; I want to improve my life and be healthier. I am looking for someone to go to the prom with, I am too old (35 next month) and tired of being the skinny guy at the beach.

dang. at 34 y/o it really freaks me out that you are looking for someone to go to prom with.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Dez, you are rapidly becoming one of my favorite guys to read their posts.

That was pretty funny. Seriously though, why is a 35 year old going to “prom”? Dear God…[/quote]

I think this is proof the guy is a troll…