Getting a Flu Shot? Watch This Video

[quote]on edge wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
on edge wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:

There is nothing in these flu shots that is not normal.

LMAO!

So you think they have added things to this years flu shots that is not in seasonal flu shots that have been being given for years? If so what, and how did they get the shots authorised for use in humans?

From the CDC (I’m afraid the format is going to suck when I paste it. Sorry if it’s tough to read);

Influenza (Afluria) Beta-Propiolactone, Calcium Chloride, Neomycin, Ovalbumin, Polymyxin B,
Potassium Chloride, Potassium Phosphate, Sodium Phosphate, Sodium
Taurodeoxychoalate.
Influenza (Fluarix) Egg Albumin (Ovalbumin), Egg Protein, Formaldehyde or Formalin,
Gentamicin, Hydrocortisone, Octoxynol-10, �¡-Tocopheryl Hydrogen Succinate,
Polysorbate 80, Sodium Deoxycholate, Sodium Phosphate, Thimerosal*
Influenza (Flulaval) Egg Albumin (Ovalbumin), Egg Protein, Formaldehyde or Formalin, Sodium
Deoxycholate, Phosphate Buffers, Thimerosal
Influenza (Fluvirin) Beta-Propiolactone , Egg Protein, Neomycin, Polymyxin B, Polyoxyethylene 9-
10 Nonyl Phenol (Triton N-101, Octoxynol 9), Thimerosal (multidose
containers), Thimerosal* (single-dose syringes)
Influenza (Fluzone) Egg Protein, Formaldehyde or Formalin, Gelatin, Octoxinol-9 (Triton X-100),
Thimerosal (multidose containers)
Influenza (FluMist) Chick Kidney Cells, Egg Protein, Gentamicin Sulfate, Monosodium Glutamate,
Sucrose Phosphate Glutamate Buffer

I don’t see much here that I’d call normal, especially for injecting into the human body. I’d also like to add lots of people are allergic to egg and they are routinely given vaccines at an age before they find out by eating them.[/quote]

What is in this flu vaccine is what is normally in flu vaccines so to me that is normal. I thought your point was that this vaccine had been rushed out and was abnormal. I see in fact that you feel medical products are eeevil . Cool, if that is your position, I hope you are consistent and don’t eat processed foods or take any other form of medicating.

[quote]on edge wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
on edge wrote:
I’d hit it.

do you think she’s ok if she’s doing it doggy style?

Probably perfectly normal. I think it’d be more interesting with her on top, facing.

Edit: Might be hard not to laugh though.[/quote]

lmao thats fucked up! lmao

I heard about some dude who got decapitated by his seatbelt when he crashed his car at 95 mph. From now on, whenever I get on the freeway I’m going to take my seatbelt off so it doesn’t kill me.

[quote]artw wrote:
I heard about some dude who got decapitated by his seatbelt when he crashed his car at 95 mph. From now on, whenever I get on the freeway I’m going to take my seatbelt off so it doesn’t kill me.[/quote]

Don’t you think not having the seatbelt on he is likley going to die also? So yea, not a good analogy. Maybe if he didn’t get in a crash at 95MPH, I mean yea he could have avoided that an probably not been killed. See the seatbelt didn’t really kill him, the crash did.

V

Google “1976 swine flu vaccine and Guillian-Barre Syndrome.”

[quote]Vegita wrote:
artw wrote:
I heard about some dude who got decapitated by his seatbelt when he crashed his car at 95 mph. From now on, whenever I get on the freeway I’m going to take my seatbelt off so it doesn’t kill me.

Don’t you think not having the seatbelt on he is likley going to die also? So yea, not a good analogy. Maybe if he didn’t get in a crash at 95MPH, I mean yea he could have avoided that an probably not been killed. See the seatbelt didn’t really kill him, the crash did.

V[/quote]

I know someone that survived a carcrash because she didn’t have her seatbelt on. She was thrown clear from the middle seat at the back, smashed her face up pretty bad, but survived. Everyone in the car died.

yo check it.

crazy-chick just ran a 8km race.

  1. She had a seasonal influenza vaccination, not the swine flu vaccination.

  2. Establishing a causal link just isn’t possible. Perhaps if there were a few other cases of dystonia occurring around the time of an influenza vaccine, but there aren’t any being reported. I would have expected many more cases to have surfaced over the years from the thousands and thousands of vaccinations if that were the case.

Sometimes, certain things occur (psychogenic or not) that don’t have an exact known cause and when these people are afflicted (despite the fact that the vast majority weren’t adminstered X vaccine) they or their loved ones want an answer as to why something happened to them and in some cases, they’ll blame the vaccines or a drug or something else that was taken in close proximity to the illness. This is not to say that vaccines don’t have side effects (GBS is a rare but significant possibility, though influenza itself may cause it as well in the same susceptible individuals, so it would seem the person is doomed either way in some cases).

However, even assuming this woman has non-psychogenic dystonia, it makes little sense to conclude that the seasonal influenza vaccine caused it. What about the overwhelming majority of people that have dystonia and didn’t receive an influenza vaccine prior to being diagnosed? This same sort of hysteria can be seen with various vaccines and conditions (e.g., autism). If your proposed cause of something can only explain 0.0001% or even 1% of cases, to be generous, then it’s time to look for a new cause.

(Incidentally, I recently read an interesting article where they discussed findings that humans generally tend to seek causal relationships between things even when they are purely coincidental and that it was something that was likely passed down from our ancient ancestors.)

  1. Her case is being classified by most experts as psychogenic dystonia, which makes this a sad example for those who wish to demonstrate what will happen to you if you get vaccinated.

Edited for link: Examiner is back - Examiner.com

Finally, there are many factors that influence influenza transmission; humidity and temperature are considered significant factors (hence the reason transmission is higher during the winter and lower during the summer) and argues against being indoors and away from sunlight as the primary cause of influenza infection. The vitamin D hypothesis is an interesting one, but there simply are no data to support that it is a major factor. It may be a contributor amongst many, but these things are not known. Taking vitamin D has not been shown in any studies to prevent influenza infection.

Well, fuck me running!

Sorry that one was just too easy.

Looks like even a light jog works. That’s so strange. When she was “launched” it looked like she had to go faster than her pace before she was fine, but seemed fine with the slower pace later on.

I’m going to get the flu shot. Both of them.

[quote]enchilnada wrote:

  1. She had a seasonal influenza vaccination, not the swine flu vaccination.

  2. Establishing a causal link just isn’t possible. Perhaps if there were a few other cases of dystonia occurring around the time of an influenza vaccine, but there aren’t any being reported. I would have expected many more cases to have surfaced over the years from the thousands and thousands of vaccinations if that were the case.

Sometimes, certain things occur (psychogenic or not) that don’t have an exact known cause and when these people are afflicted (despite the fact that the vast majority weren’t adminstered X vaccine) they or their loved ones want an answer as to why something happened to them and in some cases, they’ll blame the vaccines or a drug or something else that was taken in close proximity to the illness. This is not to say that vaccines don’t have side effects (GBS is a rare but significant possibility, though influenza itself may cause it as well in the same susceptible individuals, so it would seem the person is doomed either way in some cases).

However, even assuming this woman has non-psychogenic dystonia, it makes little sense to conclude that the seasonal influenza vaccine caused it. What about the overwhelming majority of people that have dystonia and didn’t receive an influenza vaccine prior to being diagnosed? This same sort of hysteria can be seen with various vaccines and conditions (e.g., autism). If your proposed cause of something can only explain 0.0001% or even 1% of cases, to be generous, then it’s time to look for a new cause.

(Incidentally, I recently read an interesting article where they discussed findings that humans generally tend to seek causal relationships between things even when they are purely coincidental and that it was something that was likely passed down from our ancient ancestors.)

  1. Her case is being classified by most experts as psychogenic dystonia, which makes this a sad example for those who wish to demonstrate what will happen to you if you get vaccinated.

Edited for link: Examiner is back - Examiner.com

Finally, there are many factors that influence influenza transmission; humidity and temperature are considered significant factors (hence the reason transmission is higher during the winter and lower during the summer) and argues against being indoors and away from sunlight as the primary cause of influenza infection. The vitamin D hypothesis is an interesting one, but there simply are no data to support that it is a major factor. It may be a contributor amongst many, but these things are not known. Taking vitamin D has not been shown in any studies to prevent influenza infection.

http://www.plospathogens.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.ppat.0030151[/quote]

in case you happen to skip this post, i want to draw attn to it again

[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
Google “1976 swine flu vaccine and Guillian-Barre Syndrome.”[/quote]

We are in 2009 now momma, this is a moot point. If anything its a study in the advancement in technologies such that we now know more than we did 35 years ago and are not likely to repeat such tragic errors.

Pointing to medical errors made in hr 70’s really has zero relevance to todays issues, although it definitely is worth reading.

They have yet to prove that there is a causal relationship between the flu shot and the neurological disorder.

If we can’t prove it, this news is worhtless.

It’s like saying that ten days before, she also ate an apple. Did the apple cause dystonia?

[quote]JonEightPackGuy wrote:
I’ve never trusted doctors nor ever had a flu shot and I’ve always been good. It’s just a way to make money.

She’s still hot though, totally be with her.[/quote]

Yeah, cause doctors don’t care about health, only profits, right?

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I’m probably going to hell for laughing at one part[/quote]

See you there. I couldnt stop laughing when she started talking…

I don’t get how her tongue is paralyzed (and according to her, her neck, but she keeps looking behind her to walk backwards) yet her tongue works fine when she runs and talks.

I saw some posts on the youtube video suggesting it could be psychosomatic, and of course, there are the thoughts that it’s fake.

Either way, weird and hard to understand what’s going on with it. For me anyway, I know we have hundreds of experts here who know exactly what’s going on, down to the neutrino.

I’m never getting a flu shot.

[quote]boldar wrote:
you can’t be serious can u vagita??? The flu has killed millions and millions of people in the past century. do u know how a flu shot works? its extremely effective for the majority of people and doctors know exactly wat they give to there patients.

the shot isn’t 100% effective bc the flu is so pro mutation and there is a prediction phase were they try to predict which strains are going to be the most dangerous and sometimes they get it wrong, but they are quite good at it. sure there are some very unfortunate incidents, the shot save’s many many more.

if u want to talk about money, think about all the money lost from sick workers at are unable to go to work or go to work and not be productive. The majority of people DEFIANTLY SHOULD GET A FLU SHOT! [/quote]

interesting since you did say DEFIANTLY - meaning to go against. that means your against it on your own hypocritical statement

Not to resurrect a dead thread, but here is an interesting write up of this case from a clinical neurologist and renowned skeptic Steven Novella: