[quote]Beowolf wrote:
lixy wrote:
Besides, we all know this crap is about Iran’s consistent defiance of US’ hegemony. Saudi Arabia engages in much worse (particularly vis-a-vis women). Yet, the Al-Sauds seem to be your politician’s best pals.
Regardless of what else he’s said, Lixy keeps bringing this up, and no one has addressed it yet.[/quote]
I’ll address it. It was a sad story that I thought was food for potential discussion. I have no love for any country in the Middle East, at best they are all royally fucked up and draconian. There wasn’t a story from Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Oman, etc. It was from Iran. I hardly doubt that Saudi Arabia’s behaviour toward women is worse than stoning women to death for getting their groove on.
The Al-Sauds are apparently Nancy Pelosi’s best friends because she insist we keep getting our oil from abroad rather then get the shit sitting under our feet…Everybody else seems to have figured out that doing business with our enemies is a bad idea.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Why would Iran ally themselves with a nation who slaughtered more muslims than any other in history?
To achieve hegemony over the Sunnis and restore Persia to its former glory. [/quote]
Exactly…
So, in other words, if Saudi Arabia suddenly befriended Russia and China, no one would object to the government of S.A.
Is it their friendship with the US which makes them evil to some? Their policies are not at issue here. If they are similar to the ones in Iran and in line with Islamic rules, how could one condemn the Saudis without condeming the Iranians?
[quote]lixy wrote:
Because everybody knows the gender ratio of executions in the US is 50/50.[/quote]
I could argue that women don’t commit crimes punishable by death as often as men.
The sentence has to do with the judge or jury. I personally think we don’t use the death penalty enough in this society.
Murder-Death
Rapists/pedophiles-More painful form of death.
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And because frying somebody’s body with a couple of thousand volts is more humane.[/quote]
Yea, lets lock the psycho up for his whole life and risk him getting out and killing more instead?
Most states use lethal injection. Also many states done use the death penalty, unfortunately.
Lixy, if I understand your graphs correctly, they’re implying that just about everybody views the death penalty as more morally acceptable than adultery.
On the one hand, this would seem irrational, because there is far more damage done by killing someone than by cheating on her.
On the other hand, polls like this display that across the board, the number 1 fear is public speaking, and the second is death. And so the irrationality has a precedent.
[quote]Otep wrote:
Lixy, if I understand your graphs correctly, they’re implying that just about everybody views the death penalty as more morally acceptable than adultery.
On the one hand, this would seem irrational, because there is far more damage done by killing someone than by cheating on her.
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So what? It is assumed the person being executed has COMMITED A CRIME WORTHY OF THAT PUNISHMENT.
[quote]Otep wrote:
Lixy, if I understand your graphs correctly, they’re implying that just about everybody views the death penalty as more morally acceptable than adultery. [/quote]
No. You can’t infer that from those graphs. Crimes of passion are not restricted to adultery. There are plenty of examples of people slashing their companion for threatening to leave them. Others kill on the mere suspicion of cheating or flirting.
But anyway, my point was that Muslims appear to be less tolerant of crimes of passion than the median. From the graph, you could see that the French are twice more likely to play down crimes of passion than French Muslims. Same goes for the death penalty.
And that’s an American pollster!
Kinda puts a dent in the thesis that some people are flooding this forum with…
Iran arrests 16 converts to Christianity, hoping to give them the death penalty according to Mohammed’s dictum: “If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.”
