[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]BootScootBoogy wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]BootScootBoogy wrote:
Can you substitute Jesus for Elvis and make a distinction?[/quote]
What are you asking?[/quote]
Exactly what I asked.[/quote]
Like I said, you see this from a large number of atheists and it makes little sense. Something must be there making them feel some need to degrade other people like that. I don’t ever find myself randomly ranting about atheists.[/quote]
Something doesn’t make “little sense” because you say it does. Yes something does make us feel the need to call it out. We no longer accept the idea that nonsense should be tolerated when it is put under the “protection” of religion. Nonsense is nonsense. You don’t ever find yourself randomly ranting about atheists because atheism is the lack of a belief. You also don’t randomly rant about people that don’t accept astrology, don’t accept that the earth is hollow, don’t accept that car engines run on magic, or any of the infinite other non-beliefs that exist. One thing I do admire about the religious is that they have managed to label this particular non-belief in order to create an argument strategy that puts us on the defense. It has become acceptable to say, “So you don’t believe in god, well then what do you believe?” We don’t say this about any other beliefs for which there is no evidence. Can you imagine if we started saying to people, “So you don’t believe aliens carry the moon across the sky, well then what do you believe?”
[quote]BootScootBoogy wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]BootScootBoogy wrote:
Can you substitute Jesus for Elvis and make a distinction?[/quote]
What are you asking?[/quote]
Exactly what I asked.[/quote]
Ok, can you make your question clearer?
[quote]Dt546 wrote:
[quote]sandos wrote:
[quote]JSMaxwell wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Goodfellow wrote:
Wow people really do like to indulge themselves in mindless shit don’t they, next they will probably come up with an idea that an all powerful being who lives in the sky will save us.[/quote]
Lives in the sky?
You know what’s strange?
Why anyone would even feel that much of a need to say negative shit about the concept of God at every opportunity.[/quote]
Because those of us that are people of reason, not faith, are getting tired of nonsense and are starting to call it out when we see it. Nonsense is nonsense, even if it falls under the umbrella of religion. If I believe that saying some latin words over my pancakes turns them in to the body of Elvis Presley I am clearly full of shit and should be called on it. But if I believe the exact same thing about some crackers and the body of Jesus I’m a catholic and my beliefs are supposed to be respected? Not anymore. It is 2012 and it is time to leave the fairy tales of our past behind. Nonsense is nonsense.
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4 Billion people would disagree with you. Maybe YOU are the one who is wrong. Why are we supposed to believe your opinion but you can’t belive ours? Even better, just don;t comment on it. No one asked you.[/quote]
There are only 2 billion christians.
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So, there are only atheists and christians in the world? Good to know.
Do atheists get frequent flyer miles for every Christian they convert?
What people choose to believe or are influenced to believe given the culture they’re born in to is fine by me, but it is a decision to choose belief, it is not a logical decision based on reasoning through concrete evidence. And there is nothing wrong with that.
[quote]JSMaxwell wrote:
This is called Pascal’s wager, and as it has been around for several hundred years it is quite tired and worn out. First it smacks of dishonesty. You are going to believe something simply because it might pay off for you? [/quote]
Obviously it’s not very tired and worn out. Since that is not the purpose of Pascal’s wager.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]BootScootBoogy wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]BootScootBoogy wrote:
Can you substitute Jesus for Elvis and make a distinction?[/quote]
What are you asking?[/quote]
Exactly what I asked.[/quote]
Ok, can you make your question clearer?[/quote]
Not really. It’s pretty cut and dry.
[quote]BootScootBoogy wrote:
So the prerequisite for salvation is a fear of Hell?
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Fear of the L-RD is the beginning of wisdom.
[quote]JSMaxwell wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Like I said, you see this from a large number of atheists and it makes little sense. Something must be there making them feel some need to degrade other people like that. I don’t ever find myself randomly ranting about atheists.[/quote]
Something doesn’t make “little sense” because you say it does.
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I’m just going to quote this because I find it funny that you’re telling a man what makes sense to him and what does not make sense.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]BootScootBoogy wrote:
So the prerequisite for salvation is a fear of Hell?
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Fear of the L-RD is the beginning of wisdom.[/quote]
Hey man what up, how is life?
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Do atheists get frequent flyer miles for every Christian they convert? [/quote]
70 virgins and a palace.
I am an atheist and I don’t really like other atheists. Sometimes atheism itself sounds just as fanatical and full of hypocrites as any other religion.
That’s why, for all things and purposes, I call myself a follower of Batman.
And occasionally a follower of Deadpool too.
[quote]BootScootBoogy wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Do atheists get frequent flyer miles for every Christian they convert? [/quote]
70 virgins and a palace.[/quote]
Is there a weight restriction on the virgins?
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]BootScootBoogy wrote:
So the prerequisite for salvation is a fear of Hell?
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Fear of the L-RD is the beginning of wisdom.[/quote]
That is certainly a positive spin. Unless the lord holds the key to Hell, then its kind of a manipulative, love-hate relationship with one cultures Elvis.
Still waiting on those magic revelations…
Sadly I don’t think they exist.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
If I am wrong about having faith then well I just got to go through life with faith.
If you are wrong you get to go to hell.
I like my odds.
That is reason.[/quote]
That is an awesome comment.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]BootScootBoogy wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Do atheists get frequent flyer miles for every Christian they convert? [/quote]
70 virgins and a palace.[/quote]
Is there a weight restriction on the virgins?[/quote]
Fuck no. You can close your eyes though.
You and the wifey ever hit up Wild West for free two step lessons? It’s near a great churrascaria… just saying.
[quote]BootScootBoogy wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]BootScootBoogy wrote:
So the prerequisite for salvation is a fear of Hell?
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Fear of the L-RD is the beginning of wisdom.[/quote]
That is certainly a positive spin. Unless the lord holds the key to Hell, then its kind of a manipulative, love-hate relationship with one cultures Elvis.
Still waiting on those magic revelations…
Sadly I don’t think they exist.[/quote]
You’re correct. They will not for you. G-d seldom forces Himself on anyone. Jonah, maybe. You’re not in that league.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]BootScootBoogy wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]BootScootBoogy wrote:
So the prerequisite for salvation is a fear of Hell?
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Fear of the L-RD is the beginning of wisdom.[/quote]
That is certainly a positive spin. Unless the lord holds the key to Hell, then its kind of a manipulative, love-hate relationship with one cultures Elvis.
Still waiting on those magic revelations…
Sadly I don’t think they exist.[/quote]
You’re correct. They will not for you. G-d seldom forces Himself on anyone. Jonah, maybe. You’re not in that league.[/quote]
So you have to open your mind to believe and believe to receive? Sounds like willing justification and a choice in faith of one particular stripe over any other.
[quote]BootScootBoogy wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]BootScootBoogy wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]BootScootBoogy wrote:
Can you substitute Jesus for Elvis and make a distinction?[/quote]
What are you asking?[/quote]
Exactly what I asked.[/quote]
Ok, can you make your question clearer?[/quote]
Not really. It’s pretty cut and dry.[/quote]
Okay, what situation are we substituting Jesus for Elvis?