[quote]Nards wrote:
Yeah, it’s just that I’d prefer all atheists be pan-atheists. Islam should get as much scrutiny as any other religion.[/quote]
Liberal atheists are some of the worst offenders when it comes to pandering to Islam. All in the name of multiculturalism.
And in response to posts above: What makes you think that anything you happen to believe is inherently deserving of respect? If I thought that the Earth were flat or that the Easter bunny existed I would be deserving of ridicule. As would belief in Thor, magic underwear or Jesus. There’s a big difference between criticising/ridiculing something and being intolerant of it. I’ve yet to meet an atheist who doesn’t firmly believe in one’s right to worship freely.[/quote]
…so you respect their right to worship whatever, but you ridicule them for it?
[quote]Nards wrote:
Yeah, it’s just that I’d prefer all atheists be pan-atheists. Islam should get as much scrutiny as any other religion.[/quote]
If anything , Islam as a whole gets more scrutiny than any other religion …
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I should add I think Islam gets off too easy from atheists, especially the Liberal Atheists as was pointed out two posts up by bcingu.
I have facebook friends that post stuff about atheism and it’s all against Christianity.
I mean what about that blue elephant thing they worship in India? There should be so many internet memes about how goofy that shit is! (I’m being mostly facetious here)
[quote]Nards wrote:
I mean what about that blue elephant thing they worship in India? There should be so many internet memes about how goofy that shit is! (I’m being mostly facetious here)[/quote]
Hindus makeup 0.4% of the population. What would be the point exactly?
[quote]Nards wrote:
Yeah, it’s just that I’d prefer all atheists be pan-atheists. Islam should get as much scrutiny as any other religion.[/quote]
Liberal atheists are some of the worst offenders when it comes to pandering to Islam. All in the name of multiculturalism.
And in response to posts above: What makes you think that anything you happen to believe is inherently deserving of respect? If I thought that the Earth were flat or that the Easter bunny existed I would be deserving of ridicule. As would belief in Thor, magic underwear or Jesus. There’s a big difference between criticising/ridiculing something and being intolerant of it. I’ve yet to meet an atheist who doesn’t firmly believe in one’s right to worship freely.[/quote]
…so you respect their right to worship whatever, but you ridicule them for it?[/quote]
No, he tolerates it.
Tolerate comes from tolerare, to suffer something.
Respect is not required, indeed, it would make tolerance unnecessary.
[quote]Nards wrote:
Yeah, it’s just that I’d prefer all atheists be pan-atheists. Islam should get as much scrutiny as any other religion.[/quote]
Liberal atheists are some of the worst offenders when it comes to pandering to Islam. All in the name of multiculturalism.
And in response to posts above: What makes you think that anything you happen to believe is inherently deserving of respect? If I thought that the Earth were flat or that the Easter bunny existed I would be deserving of ridicule. As would belief in Thor, magic underwear or Jesus. There’s a big difference between criticising/ridiculing something and being intolerant of it. I’ve yet to meet an atheist who doesn’t firmly believe in one’s right to worship freely.[/quote]
…so you respect their right to worship whatever, but you ridicule them for it?[/quote]
Yes, I think people should be allowed to think things with which I disagree. And yes, if it is silly then I reserve the right to ridicule it.
[quote]Nards wrote:
I do think it’s a little odd how some people who believe in Young Earth Creation take the Genesis story and follow it so literally.
I mean, it is from the Old Testament…that’s the Jewish part.
Why not just let that stuff be the old back story and all?
I mean do you strew the bricks of your house outside the city limits when you get mildew in your house (Lev. 14, 40-41) or do you get some Mr. Clean?[/quote]
1st, the first Christians were Jewish. 2nd, Leviticus is for those bound by the Jewish law.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Man’s incessant need to be “right” is wild, and probably speaks to our inherently self destructive nature. What was considered gospel a thousand years ago is now considered ludicrous, and what most believe now [Christians, Muslims, Snake handlers, whatever] will be laughed at and ridiculed a thousand years from now, provided we haven’t killed off our species. In the end, believe what you want. If it makes you happy and doesn’t hurt others, knock yourself out.
But, I will say this: People were considerably more naive then.[/quote]
This is always a good stance when it comes to history. Everyone before me is just stupid, therefore I do not need to put weight towards their argument or defend against it.
I’m going to guess that you don’t even know what blasphemy means. The first thing you’re not factoring is that there was prophesy for a virgin giving birth to the messiah.
Mary wouldn’t have been killed for cheating on her husband, since she was a consecrated virgin. She would have been killed because she committed adultery. That’s why Joseph was going to put her away quietly. However, he knew prophecy and also an angel revealed to joseph that Mary was telling the truth. So, to say that he got one pulled over on him is kind of ridiculous, because he didn’t believe Mary in the first place and was going to get rid of her and the child until he saw an angel.
Nothing is out of the possibility, however actuality is what we’re looking to in this situation.
P.S. I’ve heard blasphemy is the result of daddy issues. Might want to get that checked out.
why would a “liberal” atheists pander to Islam any more than they would pander to Christianity. To an atheist, myself included, all the religions are worthy of ridicule, no need to pander to any. The sad reality is that it is our overly conservative society that is afraid to relegate religion/god in any form, to its rightful place.
[quote]Winterhawk17 wrote:
why would a “liberal” atheists pander to Islam any more than they would pander to Christianity. To an atheist, myself included, all the religions are worthy of ridicule, no need to pander to any. The sad reality is that it is our overly conservative society that is afraid to relegate religion/god in any form, to its rightful place. [/quote]
Speak for yourself, unless you Atheists actually are a group of people who subscribe to a particular ideology.
I’ve seen Atheists and Muslims team up against Christians in religious debates before. Weird to me, but it happens sometimes.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
So, to say that he got one pulled over on him is kind of ridiculous, because he didn’t believe Mary in the first place and was going to get rid of her and the child until he saw an angel.
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[quote]qsar wrote:
I also find it interesting that it seems ok for religious people to convince an atheist that either they are wrong or that they should join in the belief of god. You don’t see a Muslim trying to do such convincing of a Jew, for instance (or any major religion follower telling another major religion follower that they practice nonsense). The same goes both ways. Atheists seem to find it ok to convince a religious person that either they are wrong or that they should stop believing in God.
I think it’s part of Christians’ mandate to convince everyone else, right?[/quote]
[quote]Nards wrote:
Yeah, it’s just that I’d prefer all atheists be pan-atheists. Islam should get as much scrutiny as any other religion.[/quote]
Liberal atheists are some of the worst offenders when it comes to pandering to Islam. All in the name of multiculturalism.
And in response to posts above: What makes you think that anything you happen to believe is inherently deserving of respect? If I thought that the Earth were flat or that the Easter bunny existed I would be deserving of ridicule. As would belief in Thor, magic underwear or Jesus. There’s a big difference between criticising/ridiculing something and being intolerant of it. I’ve yet to meet an atheist who doesn’t firmly believe in one’s right to worship freely.[/quote]
I should make it so that people ridicule people for thinking that people once thought the world was flat. There is no major group of people who thought the world was flat.
[quote]Winterhawk17 wrote:
why would a “liberal” atheists pander to Islam any more than they would pander to Christianity. To an atheist, myself included, all the religions are worthy of ridicule, no need to pander to any. The sad reality is that it is our overly conservative society that is afraid to relegate religion/god in any form, to its rightful place. [/quote]
Afraid? You mean not go against the 1st Amendment. K genius.
[quote]Winterhawk17 wrote:
why would a “liberal” atheists pander to Islam any more than they would pander to Christianity. To an atheist, myself included, all the religions are worthy of ridicule, no need to pander to any. The sad reality is that it is our overly conservative society that is afraid to relegate religion/god in any form, to its rightful place. [/quote]
Afraid? You mean not go against the 1st Amendment. K genius.[/quote]