[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
Did you guys hear they found a forest in China that is over 295 million years old?![/quote]
Does this mean that we can openly mock young earth creationists?
I do think it’s a little odd how Christians take the Genesis story and follow it so literally.
I mean, it is from the Old Testament…that’s the Jewish part.
Why not just let that stuff be the old back story and all?
I mean do you strew the bricks of your house outside the city limits when you get mildew in your house (Lev. 14, 40-41) or do you get some Mr. Clean?
[quote]Nards wrote:
I do think it’s a little odd how Christians take the Genesis story and follow it so literally.
I mean, it is from the Old Testament…that’s the Jewish part.
Why not just let that stuff be the old back story and all?
I mean do you strew the bricks of your house outside the city limits when you get mildew in your house (Lev. 14, 40-41) or do you get some Mr. Clean?[/quote]
I know nobody that believes that. Very few do.
I just dont see why people are trying to make other people stop believing in a religion that teaches people to be kind to one another. Is that so awful?
Or should we all believe that ‘do what you will is the whole of the law’? I mean if I kill someone it doesnt matter right? Their is no punishment only if I get caught right? If I’m fine what does it matter if someone else is not?
[quote]Swolegasm wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
I do think it’s a little odd how Christians take the Genesis story and follow it so literally.
I mean, it is from the Old Testament…that’s the Jewish part.
Why not just let that stuff be the old back story and all?
I mean do you strew the bricks of your house outside the city limits when you get mildew in your house (Lev. 14, 40-41) or do you get some Mr. Clean?[/quote]
I know nobody that believes that. Very few do.
I just dont see why people are trying to make other people stop believing in a religion that teaches people to be kind to one another. Is that so awful?
Or should we all believe that ‘do what you will is the whole of the law’? I mean if I kill someone it doesnt matter right? Their is no punishment only if I get caught right? If I’m fine what does it matter if someone else is not? [/quote]
I don’t know about you, but my mother told me to stop talking to my invisible friends when I was 5. Maybe adults should do the same.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
[quote]Swolegasm wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
I do think it’s a little odd how Christians take the Genesis story and follow it so literally.
I mean, it is from the Old Testament…that’s the Jewish part.
Why not just let that stuff be the old back story and all?
I mean do you strew the bricks of your house outside the city limits when you get mildew in your house (Lev. 14, 40-41) or do you get some Mr. Clean?[/quote]
I know nobody that believes that. Very few do.
I just dont see why people are trying to make other people stop believing in a religion that teaches people to be kind to one another. Is that so awful?
Or should we all believe that ‘do what you will is the whole of the law’? I mean if I kill someone it doesnt matter right? Their is no punishment only if I get caught right? If I’m fine what does it matter if someone else is not? [/quote]
I don’t know about you, but my mother told me to stop talking to my invisible friends when I was 5. Maybe adults should do the same.[/quote]
Mine taught me tolerance and respect for other peoples beliefs.
[quote]Nards wrote:
I do think it’s a little odd how Christians take the Genesis story and follow it so literally.
I mean, it is from the Old Testament…that’s the Jewish part.
Why not just let that stuff be the old back story and all?
I mean do you strew the bricks of your house outside the city limits when you get mildew in your house (Lev. 14, 40-41) or do you get some Mr. Clean?[/quote]
Leviticus has little application to non-Jewish people. As repeatedly posted, there are two basic contracts in the Torah: Laws of Adam/Noah (that apply to everyone) and Laws of Mt. Sinai (that apply to Jewish people).
Regarding the age of the universe, I again suggest reading this:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
[quote]Swolegasm wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
I do think it’s a little odd how Christians take the Genesis story and follow it so literally.
I mean, it is from the Old Testament…that’s the Jewish part.
Why not just let that stuff be the old back story and all?
I mean do you strew the bricks of your house outside the city limits when you get mildew in your house (Lev. 14, 40-41) or do you get some Mr. Clean?[/quote]
I know nobody that believes that. Very few do.
I just dont see why people are trying to make other people stop believing in a religion that teaches people to be kind to one another. Is that so awful?
Or should we all believe that ‘do what you will is the whole of the law’? I mean if I kill someone it doesnt matter right? Their is no punishment only if I get caught right? If I’m fine what does it matter if someone else is not? [/quote]
I don’t know about you, but my mother told me to stop talking to my invisible friends when I was 5. Maybe adults should do the same.[/quote]
Mine taught me tolerance and respect for other peoples beliefs. [/quote]
Burnzzzz.
How is what I said intolerant or disrespectful?
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
[quote]Swolegasm wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
I do think it’s a little odd how Christians take the Genesis story and follow it so literally.
I mean, it is from the Old Testament…that’s the Jewish part.
Why not just let that stuff be the old back story and all?
I mean do you strew the bricks of your house outside the city limits when you get mildew in your house (Lev. 14, 40-41) or do you get some Mr. Clean?[/quote]
I know nobody that believes that. Very few do.
I just dont see why people are trying to make other people stop believing in a religion that teaches people to be kind to one another. Is that so awful?
Or should we all believe that ‘do what you will is the whole of the law’? I mean if I kill someone it doesnt matter right? Their is no punishment only if I get caught right? If I’m fine what does it matter if someone else is not? [/quote]
I don’t know about you, but my mother told me to stop talking to my invisible friends when I was 5. Maybe adults should do the same.[/quote]
Mine taught me tolerance and respect for other peoples beliefs. [/quote]
Nah I only respect people’s right to hold beliefs. If it makes you feel any better I don’t respect the KKK’s beliefs on human rights either.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
[quote]Swolegasm wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
I do think it’s a little odd how Christians take the Genesis story and follow it so literally.
I mean, it is from the Old Testament…that’s the Jewish part.
Why not just let that stuff be the old back story and all?
I mean do you strew the bricks of your house outside the city limits when you get mildew in your house (Lev. 14, 40-41) or do you get some Mr. Clean?[/quote]
I know nobody that believes that. Very few do.
I just dont see why people are trying to make other people stop believing in a religion that teaches people to be kind to one another. Is that so awful?
Or should we all believe that ‘do what you will is the whole of the law’? I mean if I kill someone it doesnt matter right? Their is no punishment only if I get caught right? If I’m fine what does it matter if someone else is not? [/quote]
I don’t know about you, but my mother told me to stop talking to my invisible friends when I was 5. Maybe adults should do the same.[/quote]
Mine taught me tolerance and respect for other peoples beliefs. [/quote]
As far as tolerance, so long as other peoples beliefs do not encroach upon my freedoms I do.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
How is what I said intolerant or disrespectful?
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Human rights are invisible too.
[quote]JSMaxwell wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Goodfellow wrote:
Wow people really do like to indulge themselves in mindless shit don’t they, next they will probably come up with an idea that an all powerful being who lives in the sky will save us.[/quote]
So, as science and computer technology evolve, it may become fully capable of building a very close model of the universe. We could input the rules of the universe, set up the initial conditions of the big bang, and hit run. With time compression we could literally simulate the origins of the world, watch life take shape, and even evolve into intelligent consciousness.
It would be interesting to see how many people on the simulated earth would deny the programmer who wrote the rules, the physicist who figured out the rules, the computer engineer who built the computer, and the creative force that dreamed them up, insisting instead, that an intelligent being creating their reality was equivalent to a spaghetti monster in the (simulated) sky.
You can argue against tenants and dogma of individual belief. However, Atheism is no more rationally based or logically derived than Theism. That is an actual fact.
I find that generally the people who are most outspoken and go to long lengths to claim rational and logical superiority are the same ones who actually lack critical thinking and virtually never critically examine the core of their own belief.
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You have a misunderstanding of atheism as is evidenced by the statement, “However, Atheism is no more rationally based or logically derived than Theism. That is an actual fact.”
Atheism is not a belief system, atheism has no content. Atheism is the rejection of the idea that we should accept something as true without the evidence to support it. I would imagine you don’t believe in Thor, Apollo, or any of the other thousands of gods that have “existed” in human history. So, with respect to those gods you are an atheist. I simply go one go further in my atheism than you do (assuming you are a monotheist).[/quote]
Haha am I right in saying you’d be familiar with some of Richard Dawkins work?
People should be free to believe what they like without dealing in absolutes.
Saying that, I feel there’s a reason people generally like to preach this over the internet and not in public, personal favourite for the amount of utter cringe:
I always got stuck with the question, if I’m going to believe in a religion, which one? Turns out, the question is so infinitely vast that I can’t find a way to answer it.
I also find it interesting that it seems ok for religious people to convince an atheist that either they are wrong or that they should join in the belief of god. You don’t see a Muslim trying to do such convincing of a Jew, for instance (or any major religion follower telling another major religion follower that they practice nonsense). The same goes both ways. Atheists seem to find it ok to convince a religious person that either they are wrong or that they should stop believing in God.
I think it’s part of Christians’ mandate to convince everyone else, right?
Yeah, well Muslims try to do a lot more than try to convert Jews.
[quote]Nards wrote:
Yeah, well Muslims try to do a lot more than try to convert Jews.[/quote]
Doesn’t that go both ways?
I think it’s part of Jews’ duty to try to convince people NOT to join Judaism
Yeah, it’s just that I’d prefer all atheists be pan-atheists. Islam should get as much scrutiny as any other religion.
[quote]Nards wrote:
Yeah, it’s just that I’d prefer all atheists be pan-atheists. Islam should get as much scrutiny as any other religion.[/quote]
Liberal atheists are some of the worst offenders when it comes to pandering to Islam. All in the name of multiculturalism.
And in response to posts above: What makes you think that anything you happen to believe is inherently deserving of respect? If I thought that the Earth were flat or that the Easter bunny existed I would be deserving of ridicule. As would belief in Thor, magic underwear or Jesus. There’s a big difference between criticising/ridiculing something and being intolerant of it. I’ve yet to meet an atheist who doesn’t firmly believe in one’s right to worship freely.
[quote]Nards wrote:
Yeah, it’s just that I’d prefer all atheists be pan-atheists. Islam should get as much scrutiny as any other religion.[/quote]
If anything , Islam as a whole gets more scrutiny than any other religion …