Georgia and Russia Going to War?

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
No Genocide in Kosovo?

What’s the deal with Radovan Karadzic? And why’s he being indicted by the United Nations’ International Criminal Tribunal for
genocide, deportation, and other crimes against Muslim, Croat and other non-Serb Bosnian civilians?

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Kosovo and Bosnia are different places. The major combat of the Yugoslav disintegration occurred at different times in each. Karadzic wasn’t in power by the time Kosovo exploded.

Anyone hear the Russians threatened Poland with attacks over the proposed missile shield?

The USA is the biggest threat to world peace?

Yeah, right.

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Anyone hear the Russians threatened Poland with attacks over the proposed missile shield?

The USA is the biggest threat to world peace?

Yeah, right.[/quote]

We will attack you if you install a defensive measure!

unfortunately the United States can’t hold anything against Russia. We set the precedence for this kind of military action and now that another country is doing it, which we thought nobody else would cos for some reason GW and co imagined we would stay the sole superpower, we get to sit and twiddle our thumbs.

[quote]Ren wrote:
unfortunately the United States can’t hold anything against Russia. We set the precedence for this kind of military action and now that another country is doing it, which we thought nobody else would cos for some reason GW and co imagined we would stay the sole superpower, we get to sit and twiddle our thumbs.

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Did the USSR invade Czechoslovakia and Afghanistan because we deposed Saddam, who was not abiding by the terms of the treaty after his invasion and expulsion of Kuwait?

Are you actually trying to draw a moral equivalency between Georgia and the evils of Saddam?

I fear for our future.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
Magnate wrote:
Behold, the power of stupid.

That isn’t stupid, it’s ignorant - there’s a difference. No person on earth is born with an ingrained knowledge of world geography and it may not be entirely her fault that nobody ever taught it to her.

No one living in America that can use a computer to post such a question should be that fucking stupid.

When that person that asked that question eventually dies from pissing on an electrical cable or something, I will be happy. Weed out the weak ones.

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That way of dying is so common that you would not even make it in the first preliminary rounds of the Darwin Awards- even if you piss on a high voltage cable from a bridge or walk into a lake you put a cable in yourself to kill the fish.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
Magnate wrote:
Behold, the power of stupid.

That isn’t stupid, it’s ignorant - there’s a difference. No person on earth is born with an ingrained knowledge of world geography and it may not be entirely her fault that nobody ever taught it to her.

No one living in America that can use a computer to post such a question should be that fucking stupid.

When that person that asked that question eventually dies from pissing on an electrical cable or something, I will be happy. Weed out the weak ones.[/quote]

Well, it was a woman. They’re not here to contribute their intellectual capacity to the betterment of the species…

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
No Genocide in Kosovo?

What’s the deal with Radovan Karadzic? And why’s he being indicted by the United Nations’ International Criminal Tribunal for
genocide, deportation, and other crimes against Muslim, Croat and other non-Serb Bosnian civilians? [/quote]

The “genocide” was concocted by the Albanian KLA for Western media. It was made up. Get a search engine and start reading.

The UN ICT is a well known Kangaroo court.

You’re defending the war criminals Clinton and Wesley Clark and what they did in Serbia?

Republicans were vehemently opposed to the '99 air campaign in Kosovo.

Russia: Poland Risks Attack Because of US Missiles
Russian general says US missile defense deal exposes Poland to possible nuclear attack

[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
You’re defending the war criminals Clinton and Wesley Clark and what they did in Serbia?

Republicans were vehemently opposed to the '99 air campaign in Kosovo.[/quote]

why are the Americans called war criminals and Russia gets a free pass to do whatever it wants?

You rip on Bush’s international policy, though it’s not much different than the Russians’. Why do you defend their actions if you think we have done wrong? Their doing the exact same thing.

Here’s a smart American’s analysis.

For all who defend the Georgians:

Though it could be a plant by Russian spys…

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
For all who defend the Georgians:

Though it could be a plant by Russian spys…[/quote]

Why a plant? Ossetians are overwhelmingly pro-Russian.

[quote]lixy wrote:
Why a plant? Ossetians are overwhelmingly pro-Russian. [/quote]

Yeah, I meant that as a joke to rile up he neocon hoard.

Iran wants nukes and America wants to stop them because it does not want to see nukes fall into the hands of terrorists…and we’re the bad guys…

Russia threatens Poland with nuclear annhilation…and you people love them?! Where’s the condemnation??

Read what they did to Americans who went to live in the worker’s paradise:

http://calitreview.com/796

“compulsatory” edit:

"Tsouliadis presents us with a portrait of some of these thousands of emigrants who promptly upon arrival formed a baseball team to show off our national pastime to the young Socialists.

We view them as they appeared then in the 30s, with their determined, shining, young faces. Yet, immediately relieved of their American passports, with assurances they would soon be returned along with joint citizenship in this new land, their documents were never to be seen again.

And by the end of Tsoulidaris�?? account no more than two of these survived the carnage. The terror that these Americans were engulfed by through the long Stalin era is made vivid."

and you ask “why do you hate the Russians?”

This is the coolest thing I’ve seen all day.

[quote]lixy wrote:
This is the coolest thing I’ve seen all day.

So they lost their feed. . . .

Basically the guy asking the question is full of shit. When did the Georgians hijack Russian airplanes and crash them into Russian skyscrapers?

The Georgians only sin is they do not want their country split appart. Russia is punishing them for their ties to the west.

Why can Russia invade a soverign nation, threaten another with nuclear destruction and the USA is labeled as the number 1 threat to world peace?

The KGB anti-US propaganda from the old Soviet Union works like the Jedi mind trick I guess.

Kosovo question: Bosnia and Kosovo were 2 different places, right?

Ok, during WWII the Nazis had extermination camps set up in Poland. Were their forces any less evil because there were no such camps in France?

I personally think stopping the Serbs was wrong for reasons already mentioned, but how can anyone say our reasoning for doing so was wrong? Should we have let the Serbs continue their aggression?

Pat Buchanan gets it right.

[center][b]Is Not Western Hypocrisy Astonishing?[/b]

by Patrick J. Buchanan[/center]

http://www.lewrockwell.com/buchanan/buchanan93.html

[i] American charges of Russian aggression ring hollow. Georgia started this fight -- Russia finished it. People who start wars don't get to decide how and when they end.

Russia's response was "disproportionate" and "brutal," wailed Bush.

True. But did we not authorize Israel to bomb Lebanon for 35 days in response to a border skirmish where several Israel soldiers were killed and two captured? Was that not many times more "disproportionate"?

Russia has invaded a sovereign country, railed Bush. But did not the United States bomb Serbia for 78 days and invade to force it to surrender a province, Kosovo, to which Serbia had a far greater historic claim than Georgia had to Abkhazia or South Ossetia, both of which prefer Moscow to Tbilisi?[/i]

Nope, the astonishing hypocrisy is why do the people who condemned the US for aproving the Israel/Lebanon war, for the bombing and forced surrender of Kosovo now praise Russia’s aggressive actions?

Is aggression against a country WRONG or is it only wrong when the US does it?

And how did Georgia start the fight? Did it invade Russia? How did it pick a fight with Russia by trying to stop separtists who want to split the country?

How many of you who support this action also did not support US involvement in South and central American countries in the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s when we were trying to stop the spread of Communism?

Yet it’s ok for Russia to meddle in other country’s affairs and threaten others with nuclear destruction.

But damn, if we threatened to nuke Cuba or Iran we’d never hear the end of it.

So, there is a huge double standard set in place by those who constantly kiss Russia’s ass.