Some light relief, short cop FTW…
Ironically they view themselves as the champions of and saviors of minorities and more specifically, black Americans.
I wonder why the voices of black Americans that laugh at their bullshit are never heard from. The complete lack of self awareness these idiots display should be a PubMed study.
Amazing list, thanks for taking the time.
THIS is the type of reflection that will lead to the systemic change that these protests are driving at.
(source: in EMS, so similarly underpaid)
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Fantastic overall post.
IMO The general public dont have the first clue about the modern realities of law enforcement.
-Mainly that you have to deal with soooooo much shit on a fairly regular basis, especially if working in metropolitan areas. Not even talking about violence and arrests, just dealing with tons of stubborn people, domestics, crazies, jackasses, disprespect out of nowhere etc etc
If there was more of a real-world awareness I actually think there would be way more sympathy and appreciation.
Also big part of it (not to kick a hornets nest,save it for other threads guys!) but the media really dont have stomach or the will to communicate this.
That’s standard for the those blue states on the east coast… The mayor of Edison, NJ was re-elected even though he was under house arrest for a year as his plea bargin for accepting bribes for illegal building contracts in the late 90’s…
One of them built an apartment complex right in the runoff path of a EPA Superfund site where Dioxin/Agent Orange was made for the Vietnam war.
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Your responses don’t make any sense. I don’t know what to tell you…
I said it’s hard for me to personally back a movement (BLM) because they pick and choose which lives matter to their cause and basically ignore the rest. I gave the example that more black men will be killed in one city than by the police in the entire United States. BLM says nothing about the deaths in Baltimore or any other places where black men are killed disproportionately.
Your response was something about privilege and how I didn’t bring up the “UNARMED” aspect in the stats. Mkay… I already acknowledged earlier in the thread that I get the protesting in this case and I 100% support U.S. citizen’s right to protest. I actually think it’s great that people are protesting an injustice like this. I think 99.99% of the population agrees Floyd’s death was fucked up.
Then I brought up how people say they want change, but then vote to elect an official that we know breaks the law and this is becoming a trend in Baltimore.
Your response is, power corrupts (okay), how “NONE of these lawbreakers are ever even charged at all” (Which is obviously not true), and that in your opinion white-collar corruption/crime =/= police brutality (something I didn’t say or argue).
Trying reading what I actually posted again.
No, I just don’t understand how your responses to me make any sense.
That’s crazy and blows my mind.
This. I can’t tell you the number of times someone I arrested threatened to kill me or kill/rape my wife or kids when they got out of jail. I wasn’t even married at the time so that always made me chuckle. The level of disrespect kids show today is mind boggling even in front of their “parents”.
It became a chore to go to friend’s parties/BBQ’s because being around even one drunk person was irritating.
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The “media” seems to have a vested interest in NOT doing it.
During the Ferguson riots a CNN dumb shit was holding orange foam earplugs in his hand claiming they were rubber bullets shot at protesters by police. Earplugs… Earplugs…
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With a range of 10-14 million arrests/year over the past 10 years does anyone else think if there is systemic institutionalized racism the numbers of unjustified killings by police would be far higher? Obviously the goal is zero but tragedies like what happened to Floyd seem pretty low if we’re all in fact racist as certain entities like to proclaim.
FTR, obviously individuals exist who are racist.
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None of that matters. It’s so bizarre to me that some people want this to be reality so badly.
If we’re all so racist… Apparently we really suck at it.
Fact is I’d take a bullet for any decent human being no matter their color. But these craven psychotic losers just HAVE to have an enemy to fight. Tilting at windmills says I
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If I was wrong to summarize your earlier posts as (unhelpful) Whatabout-isms, then I certainly apologize.
And what about your latest point about ‘BLM not being comprehensive enough with their attention’… what was the conclusion then?
As u know, the vast majority of Americans (or anyone) are not racist. And we all share unique bonds within our neighborhoods/local community/local biz. These are the people that we happily spend our time & money with.
Again, this movement is precisely about lack of accountability/justice after police work* goes bad… and that assumes it even comes to light in the 1st place
Let’s make sure to blame BOTH SIDES of corporate media for this: we can choose riot destruction porn or protestor abuse porn, choose your side and fume freely
Broken record here, but this really is more about lack of accountability/justice than it is race. Of course race looms large (this is America) but the tangible solutions here lie in the list u posted last night (ie. community relations, etc) and not in vague nonsense like ‘ending racism’
An excellent article written from an UK perspective - it also touches on the subject of the quasi-religious fervor among white liberals.
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Yes, more hypocrisy. Interesting article, especially the first 2/3, not sure about all the religious allusions in the later 1/3 though.
Yesterday in the UK all the police were publicly making a show of it, taking a knee for George Floyd, BLM or whatever. Soon after a peaceful protest turned violent. No Looting but some bashings, including of the police. Virtue signalling apparently doesn’t work very well in the real world.
What excuse can these British individuals who were black have? They haven’t got the American historical perspective of slavery which is apparently seen as justification for bad behaviour, in the States.
Apparently Greece, had some sort of episode of violence too, in a protest about George Floyds Death.People throwing Molotov cocktails at the police. I haven’t been able to find out much about this one, and who was doing the violence.
Fear not everyone, Leonardo Di Caprio is coming to save the day, pledging on instagram to “end the disenfranchisement of black America”. Thank god, the world is now officially saved.
The conclusion is that I personally find it difficult to back an organization that focuses on a handful of incidents out of the roughly 250 deaths of black Americans that occur each year due to police shootings while largely (entirely as far as I can tell) ignores the roughly 7,000 murders of black people (mostly men) each year mostly by other black people. More broadly, it is difficult for me personally to empathize with a movement that states “black lives matter” when, from my point of view and without derailing the thread further, only some black lives seem to matter.
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Police are held accountable all the time. Do some slip through the cracks ? Certainly. But not nearly as much as some want to believe. Again… Having some hate filled psychotic screech about “accountability” when they have no clue what they’re talking about, no clue regarding use of force, no clue about the entire context of a given situation, etc… Yea, that’s not a terrifying thought or anything.
Remember “hands up, don’t shoot” ? Far too many lies and out of context calls for “accountability” before we know the entire story.
And the unarmed thing is typically the driver of these situations. That’s why the entire context is so vital.
I do agree though that some police do get off light. But you must also understand the courts do acknowledge the dangers and dynamics of the job when examining these things.
As for the media… Let’s be realistic. One side is clearly stoking the race shit with their yellow journalism and low quality baiting. I have no cable or FB but every clip I see posted on other websites I frequent exposes this pretty clearly.
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This is exactly why so many are put off by that fraudulent movement. It reeks of hypocrisy and double standards.
I don’t have a problem with protesting to improve training, outcomes, etc… The Floyd video is bad and additional videos have only made it look that much worse.
That said, while I can understand the justifiable anger over Floyd’s death, his death and deaths like his are a fraction of the unlawful deaths black people face each year. If American’s want things to change for black people then imo you have to also address the homicide issue as well. They sorta go hand in hand. You have to more heavily police areas where crime more often occurs and, for a myriad of possible reasons, more crime occurs in urban areas where the density of the black population is greater. Thus, interaction with police are going to be higher increasing the likelihood of a bad outcome.
Both of these conversations are difficult to have and, being white and living in rural America, I feel like I’m damned if I do damned if I don’t, but what can you do?
Of course, this ignores the statistics of the situation(s), but I know people don’t like to talk about that.