Cool, molotovs in residential areas.
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That shit is classic. I mean a sheer thing of beauty. Nothing says your lying like admitting it on air and not even know are doing it.
I donât know if people have figured it out, but CNN is probably the worst of all mainstream news. I deleted the app 4 years ago. I donât even bother with them and I do it on purpose now. The main reason I avoid them is that I do not want to give them my clicks. Any click is a good click. So if someone pastes a CNN article I will read it, but I will not patronize them at all.
Besides, I already know what they are going to say. "Locusts ravage small California farming town. So the orange man is bad. And how bad is the orange man? So bad you wouldnât believe it. He drinks the urine of Russian hookers while stroking Putin into satisfaction. And we have PROOF! An anonymous source, who has a friend who once took a tour of the White House witnessed the encounter.
And now, my worst nightmares are coming true. Retaliation. Far be it for the proud boys to let Trump win the narrative, they have to engage because they donât care. They just want to kick some ass⌠This is so wrong. Itâs exactly what I do not want.
Fine, if BLM attacked them while they were minding their own business, then I understand it. But no, they chased a guy down and beat him to a pulp. This is disgusting and they need to stop before it escalates.
Maybe they just assume that the majority of viewers are brainwashed fools who believe anything they are told. Like when we have record-setting cold weather here they say itâs because of global warming, how much more backwards can their logic get?
Third world-style politics have come to America.
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You mean brainwashed fools like FOX News viewers and Trump nut-huggers that believe every Tweet?
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Global Warming means the warming of the average Temp of the Earth and itâs oceans (which is happening); which in turn changes OVERALL WEATHER PATTERNS, leading to 1) increases in catastrophic events (like the number of record-setting Hurricanes and Tornado Cells) 2) Melting of polar Ice Caps (which is happening) 3) Rises is coastal waters (which is happening) AND 2) record-setting temperatures (BOTH HOT AND COLD.).
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(I donât watch FOX or CNNâŚ)
Exactly, same thing on the other side.
Despite many scientists supporting this theory, there are still reasons to question what is really going on. But even with a massive reduction in carbon emissions the temperature continued to increase, this is a sign that maybe carbon emissions have nothing to do with any changes in temperature. The earthâs temperature has varied over centuries, was the last ice age a result of carbon emissions? Some people can give a convincing-sounding explanation, but that doesnât make it true.
Do you think that the reasons to reject the theory are as strong as the ones to support it? IMO, the support side could be wrong, but so far has much more supporting it.
That could be one conclusion. Another is that the reduction in emissions reduced the rate of warming. So while we are still warming, we are not warming as quickly. We would need to reduce further to get to the point where we donât warm at all.
This is true. I would encourage you to look at charts for what we think average temperature was historically. What you will see is a much much faster rate of change that seems to start about when we really started burning a lot of fossil fuels.
There is pretty good amount of scientific consensus on this. I donât think 90+% of scientists in this area are in on a conspiracy. It could be that they are all making a similar mistake or have a wrong assumption (it has happened before), but their critics havenât identified it.
I think on this issue it is really tough to know what to think. Most people are either in the camp of believing most scientists, or believing a minority of scientists that get disproportional exposure. I have listened a bit to both sides, and the majority seems a lot more sound. Maybe listen to what both sides say. Donât just listen to one side as there is a lot of strawman arguments that make the otherâs position sound ridiculous (TBH, I mostly got this from the minority side, but it could be bias).
ThisâŚ(as with a lot of things these daysâŚsadlyâŚ)
Itâs one of the ways you can explain the re-emergence of the flat earth stuff. I donât know if we should call any of those proponents scientists though (seems insulting to actual scientists).
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They are strong enough to question it, and the fact that the temperature was supposed to have continued to increase despite reduced emissions due to shutdown certainly raises suspicion.
The plan involves too many drastic changes too fast. The same people pushing COVID restrictions that are causing millions to die of starvation are pushing this climate stuff, if they really cared about saving lives it wouldnât be done the way that it is. Itâs about reducing consumption through carbon taxes, which means making everything so expensive that you can only afford the bare essentials.
What happens if carbon emissions are reduced to ânet-zeroâ or whatever they call it, millions starve and millions more are pushed into extreme poverty, and the temperature still continues to rise? Are all those peopleâs live expendable? Things like this should be done in the least damaging way possible.
Correlation does not equal causation
They donât need to be in on a conspiracy, they just need to parrot the official narrative as they are told to. I wasnât really trying to start a climate change debate, but one of the big arguments against it is that it is based on bad data as well as data that is misrepresented and selected to prove a their story,
Remember, at one time the consensus was that the earth was flat.
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As for the actual topic of this thread, hereâs a white 13 year old autistic kid who was shot by police in Utah. Of course BLM doesnât care because he is white, despite this being a perfect example of why police reforms are needed. If it doesnât fuel racial tensions then itâs not useful.
It also could be done in a way that creates lots of jobs and lowers expenses. The narrative that it is going to raise prices to the point people starve is not going to happen, and is a strawman from the side of opposition. It isnât like we couldnât self correct if things got out of hand.
True. But it is accurate to say that our rate of climate change now is several orders of magnitude different than what it has ever been. It begs the question why is it that the last 100 years or so have rate of change that is so much higher than any other period.
That isnât part of the plan, and runs contrary to the goal of reducing consumption.
But itâs happening right now with COVID restrictions
Itâs not accurate if there is no data
I have heard that part of the plan is to create many jobs. We have seen with the wind energy, that many jobs have been created.
The green energy business is separate from the COVID restrictions. I am not sure why you grouped these things together?
There isnât actual data that was read by someone off of a thermometer. There is stuff like ice core analysis. There are methods in which they can tell a good deal about the climate based on the properties of the ice.
Do you really think the number of jobs created will be more than the number lost?
Because the plan being pushed by the UN and followed by many countries such as Canada is to rebuild the crippled economy in accordance with the green agenda.
Itâs questionable how accurate that sort of stuff is. Carbon dating is not totally accurate either. Also seeing as the allegations are that data was selectively chosen and in some cases creatively interpreted to prove that carbon emissions are causing global warming, I would be skeptical about this as well. Iâm skeptical about any seemingly benevolent plan that will lead to poverty for millions while enriching a select few.
I donât know to be honest with you. It seems plausible that there are more wind energy jobs now than coal mining jobs?
It is really hard to tell how many jobs will be lost vs gained with a new technology. People thought that the cars were going to cause job loss and that the amount of jobs in the auto industry would never compare to the equine industry. That seems pretty silly now.
IMO, we should just be investing in infrastructure in general. Why just pay people, when we could pay them to build stuff? I think it should be some renewable energy type stuff, and some standard stuff.
Agree. I am not expert in this sort of thing, but I think they have a pretty good understanding of the error involved, and account for it.
It depends on the time scale. I remember a few years back that creationists were harping on about how it wasnât accurate for dating fossils. The scientists agreed with them, because it would be silly to try to use carbon dating for fossils. Carbon dating is pretty good for something that is in the 10s of thousands of years old or younger (and has a tolerance that is reasonable given the age of the test subject). Uranium / lead (or other radioactive element dating) dating is required to date things as old a most fossils.
It is fine to be skeptical, but to dismiss it is a different story.
I literally know no one who either hugs Presidentâs Trumpâs nuts, (perhaps Melania) nor particularly care for his tweeting, whether they support him or not. I wouldnât mind hugging Ivankaâs boobies for a while.
Most people, me included, would rather he not tweet. However, since the news blows up every time he does, itâs perhaps a good strategy despite the general dislike for it.
The politicization of the issue and using as a means to control the behavior of the average, while the elite can piss all over the behavior they want everybody else to follow. They want a better world on which to trounce the average citizen. And I am all for a better mouse trap⌠The key word being âbetterâ. That shit in California can shove it. And what good are those moves when everybody then has to buy a gas or diesel generator to compensate? Doesnât that negate the point.
Carbon points, moving the dirty industries to 3rd world countries to pollute their scant access to water so the first world appears prettier and taxing the shit out of the wealthiest western capitalist countries while letting China and their shills totally off the hook is not only pointless but grossly unjust. Either everybody pays and plays or nobody does.
That would get Trump awfully jealous.