All for a piece of garbage.
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No. The KPD saw the armed vigilantes as āon their sideā fighting the rioters. Which they were.
But, this country and the law does not condone vigilantism (cops know this) for the exact reasons that occurred- an untrained, immature, wannabe hero shot dead 2 unarmed civilians and wounded a third. The KPDs interaction with him likely emboldened him and further legitimized his actions in his mind leading up to and during his killing of civilians.
KPD encouraging vigilantism on video is bad. KPD encouraging the vigilantism of an underage kid with assault rifle who promptly goes on to kill two people minutes later is a really bad look. I honestly dont know how you could disagree with that.
(un?)Fortunately we all are supposed to get equal protection under the law.
How would they know he was underage?
You know, it could be self-defense.
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I get that. But burning your community down isnāt bringing that turd back.
They for sure thought he was of age, i dont doubt that at allā¦ but āI thought he/she was 18ā has never been a good defense haha.
Driving 30 minutes away from home to extra-judicially protect property that is not yours with an assault rifle that legally cannot be yours, and then firing into a hostile crowd that you voluntarily put yourself in the middle of would not seem to make a great case for self-defense. What i do know is that the kid was a teenage boy, and teenage boys are easily influenced, are terrible decision makers, and do stupid shit. I honestly believe he thought he was doing the right thing.
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Was that a paralyzed from the waist down pun?
How would they know he was under 18? In other words, what could they have done to know how old he was?
I heard a different version. Keep in mind, the story was that Jacob was driving when he stopped to break up a fight between two women. That was not true. The woman called the cops on him. I also believe the cops knew he had a warrant before they arrived as well as his criminal record. So these initial stories are usually wrong.
He now matches how he was from the neck up.
Youāre right I donāt see giving them water bottles as bad. The water bottle had zero to do with killing those people. I see another tepid response to rioters as being bad.
You and I have polar opposite view as to where blame lies in all the deaths of all the riots over the past months.
And yes, Police audio shows that police were made aware of warrants.
No, we dont (unless you agree with Pats loony stats). But anytime i bring up suspect actions by law enforcement you immediately start in with whataboutisms. Its like the police cannot be criticized for anything they do as long as the greater evil is still the rioters. I simply disagree with that outlook. I think it is fair to criticize both sides where criticism fits.
Let me ask you a question. At that moment, what illegal activity could they be charged with? Standing with guns? Talking people into leaving a business alone while also letting them know they still support BLM? At that moment I have seen nothing to indicate theyāve actually done any vigilantism. There is no evidence they ever tried to detain or āarrestā as a group.
Seems damned nit picky when the cops have to face the consequences of weak leaders not taking these seriously
Illegal possesion of a firearm (underage on his own accross state lines) and unlawful assembly. Pretty obvious
Youāre faulting them for not carding (the 17 year old shooter) on the night of a riot? Unlawful assembly while people smash businesses?
misdemeanor
Im saying that the KPD selectively enforced the curfew order, and actively encouraged the heavily armed vigilante groups. Its on that video. You asked what laws the group was breaking, and i responded. Unless you are of the opinion that its not illegal if you dont get caught haha.
No way KPD thought they were encouraging an underage kid, and that he would shoot 3 people killing 2. But, that is what happened. Its a really bad look for KPD, they are supposed to be the good guys and we should hold them to a very high standard.
Its a prime example of why we shouldnt support vigilantism, and the police especially shouldnt support vigilantism.
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Across state lines makes it federal, and possibly a felony? or no?
Meh. Itās not unreasonable. Iām just more focused on the lack of seriousness by leaders shutting these things down in the first place, leaving only national guard and LEOs on the street. If not the them, vigilantes will pop up and spread as people tire of this.
I donāt think so. I believe you are subject to the gun laws of the state you are in.