Do you know what i mean (and what most other people mean) when they say “blm movement”? I think you do. I also think you heard the term “useful idiot” and now ignore all viewpoints supporting a blm movement and label them useful idiots without fully understanding their points, or what a useful idiot actually is.
So you were wrong in accusing me of supporting police defunding? Thanks for admitting you were misrepresenting facts and my opinions.
i would say that the mob would have to be more than 5 people and be within 10 block of me to be truly concerning. As it stands, the mob was about 50, and hasnt ventured out of the same small hyper-progressive neighborhood in a city 1 hour away (with traffic) in the nearly 4 months since all the unrest started. So, im not concerned in the slightest.
I don’t believe it’s possible to support BLM without either being a useful idiot or a Marxist.
Admit what? You said plenty of times you support cutting the police budget (AKA defunding) and putting the money into other things even if the short term effects are worse. You are trying to spin things around in another direction and it’s not working.
So the people there shouldn’t be concerned either or what? Is it only things that directly affect you that matter? You are a perfect example of the suburban left wingers @zecarlo was talking about who are all for this shit as long as it doesn’t reach them.
It seems like you are ignoring nuance and only seeing black and white. For or against. Them or us. It sucks that kind of divisive thinking and rhetoric is so common in today’s day and age. Try to see nuance.
Nope, never went beyond saying that all govt agencies have a good amount of fat they can cut in their budgets. Never once said i support cutting officers or signigicantly cutting police budgets. But, if you want to be Pat Jr, never let facts get in the way of your opinion.
Only problem is i am not all for it and have repeatedly, including in this afternoons posts, said riots and rioters are bad. But again, keep doing your best Pat Jr and ignoring facts.
Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, WHOA! No need to insult the man! There are low blows and there are this!
Why not just call him Adolf Jr., or Stalin Jr.? Calling someone Pat Jr. is worse than calling someone Trump Jr. Why don’t you just call him Pol Pot? Or maybe just a son of a bitch?
Have a modicum of decency, geez…
Uh, you mean the movement that has killed 30 people so far, injured hundreds of police officers, and thousands of regular people? That have laid siege to and shut down major metropolitan areas? That have declared “looting is a right”?
What’s not to like? The billions of dollars in damage, or the thousands of lives ruined at the hands of rioters, the burnt out husks of buildings that used to by mostly minority owned businesses?
I mean, can it get any better? Perhaps we’ll get a mass casualty event, something we can really celebrate in the name of equality and BLM.
Fixed that for you…
It hasn’t affected you and therefore you don’t give a shit. Let’s be honest. You certainly are not speaking for the business that has been looted in to closure (over 5 times), or the retail giants that can no longer sustain a presence in the city after multiple looting’s and vandalism in a row.
You sympathize with rioters and looters, you minimize the ruination of people’s lives and you don’t care because it doesn’t affect you.
So therefore, when the crowd comes and demands your dwelling because gentrification, you better give it to them, lest you be a hypocrite… Right?
Given the facts above, what do you love about BLM? I mean other than the acts of terrorism…
and defund… but put that found money to use addressing the same problems police are currently meant to address. whether that is building a “sister” branch of the police dedicated to social work applications, or redistributing budget to existing social programs etc.
right now, language must be drastic or it gets ignored.
Defunding and dismantling police doesnt mean getting rid of police. It means re-configuring police departments and reallocating funding.
there are many instances where a social worker is better equipped to handle a call about domestic violence or a homeless guy drunk in the park, etc.
“Defund” policy could very well work, but only after a few years would we begin to see the benefits IMO.
I don’t get how hate for Trump is the left wing media’s excuse for portraying these “ant-racist, (mostly) peaceful protestors” as the good guys. They want to push this romanticized narrative when the reality is they are made up of the homeless, drug addicts, criminals, kids, I mean adults, who live at home, unemployed, uneducated. They are violent because they have no sense of empathy or humanity in spite of being compared to the movement under MLK.
They are people who probably grew up calling their parents by their first names and raised with a sense of entitlement and belief in their “specialness.” They were never told no. Then the real world comes along and they find out that competition exists and at the bare minimum competence matters. Work ethic matters. Listening to others matters. So of course anarchy/Marxism appeals to them because they believe it means they will get free stuff and not have to work. Chaz was simply their parents’ basement on a larger scale.
Yes. Not only because they are violent little brats but because, even though they are few in number now, it will only grow and spread. The media is seeing to that. Add to that, how much money is being spent on these assholes that could have gone to something productive? It’s kind of hard to cut a police budget when you have so many officers working overtime.
My take is that the decline in SF and NYC has to do with why people live there: the culture and social scene. With that gone, there is no real reason to continue living there at sky high prices.
They say day 81, I’ll take their word for it…
For us non-twitter people, here is the story and videos. It is vile and horrific. This is escalating and no-end in sight. Mayor and Governor of Oregon has said NOTHING! No cops, no help, ever person for themselves:
And why? In the words of one “protester”, “Black Lives Matter, N****R!, Black Lives Matter, N*****R!”
Oh, well! That makes it fine…
The man may still die, he was protecting a trans person who was robbed and beaten by the mob. For his good nature, he was beaten within an inch of his life. Watch the videos, you need to see what is happening and realize, this is the U.S.
Meanwhile in Seattle, nothing to see here:
So violence, beatings, near murder, but hey most people in these cities are okay, getting coffee and virtue signalling with impunity.
You know, like the bombing of London, most of London was okay. So it’s just a little violence and attempted murder, no big deal.
What do you mean, it’s been working great! Never have the homeless had so much room to spread out any where they want. Looted business are finally going away, geez took them long enough to take a hint!
Crime and violence has never been so easy and hell the violent riots have been “mostly peaceful”!
I mean, if you really look at it, WW2 was mostly peaceful. There were far more non-conflict days then there was actual conflict. So in that regard, WW2 was mostly peaceful. And since most people in the U.S. didn’t feel any bombs, it was someone else’s problem in a far away place. I have my coffee and my internet, nobody is demanding I leave my house. It’s all good… /sarcasm
So, to be clear if they don’t bother you, you do not care. What about the people who have lost their businesses and their jobs? What about the untold millions of dollars of damage in the city? What about the 60 911 calls that went unanswered Saturday? What’s that? Oh, it didn’t affect you so you don’t care?
I suppose you aren’t going to care unless someone does something to you, it’s been established. Except, you complained about mask wearing in a state that is 2500 miles away from you and how that’s going to make you sick…
And don’t say shit about facts, I don’t want to hear that nonsense from you. You care about convenient facts, maybe. You sat their and said that the BLMer’s trying to burn down the Portland police station with people inside, while they barricaded the doors with flaming dumpsters, were not really trying to kill those cops. The facts stated they tried it twice, but you embellished some bizarre mind reading trick that those rioters who did that, really had the purest of intentions and really would hurt anybody…
What about the violence yesterday? Oh, forgot, you don’t care it doesn’t affect you…yet.
Here’s some truth no one will tell: social workers are part of the problem. Whenever I hear some college educated, middle class white or black, talk about social workers as if they are some magical beings who have the power to solve problems, I know they have little to no experience dealing with social workers.
My understanding is that they would be folks with psych backgrounds and specific training for conflict de-escalation, dealing with junkies, etc. It wouldnt be the standard CPS/desk jockey social worker. I would assume this would require training and probably should be done in the same school as police academy training, but as a separate “major” if you will, so both groups get used to working side by side in certain shared “classes”.
They are part of the problem. They have been in schools for years and all they do is end up enabling poor behavior. Conflict de-escalation is more than training or a method. It takes a certain type of individual to be able to pull it off. Ironically, it’s closer to the type of person who makes a good cop. It’s sort of like dog training; the best dog trainers are those who aren’t afraid to get bitten.
Yeah, makes sense. That is another reason why they might benefit from training alongside cops at the academy, and or pulling from the police academy pool of candidates.
The scumbag who kicked the man in the head in Portland, the rumor is that he has since died, has been identified (don’t commit crimes on camera especially when you are all over social media) as Marquise Love. How long will it take for CNN to cover this story, if they even do? He already has his BS excuse ready but unfortunately for his legal defense, it was all captured on video.
This would be exactly why my brother is great at it and all his district co-workers suck ass and hate him for it. “his method” isn’t book taught, but it is effective. And the kids love him. They don’t understand this.
This is also why out of several ppl I’ve known involved with CASA and social work, none are still doing it. They cared, theybworked hard, they burned out, and they felt abused by the system. They were the good ones.
