Gender Norms, Postmodernism and How We Identify and MeToo

I steal HIS wallet, punch HIM in his goddamn weirdo face, throw my beautiful red Make America Great hat at him, start yelling ‘WINNING! WINNING!’ and I go home to my wife and tell her I still can’t get a job because of all them illegals working for less than minimum wage. And then I complain about the concept of minimum wage, and cry into my budweiser.

murica.

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Price for them government benny’s…

Ever notice how much of that disappeared with the introduction of “Its not gay if…”?

Just joking (a little bit). The actual acts of violence are really abhorrent.

“Excuse me, did you drop this?”

Why would you want to draw the attention of the person you’re stealing from?

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you know that’s a disingenuous answer, and you avoided the pronoun because you know the right answer doesn’t further your argument. So you found a way around it. Good job.

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Pivot and counter. Sloths damn good at it

No it isn’t. I base it on male and female. We could be talking about a very unfortunate looking woman. When I don’t know for sure, I will avoid using pronouns. Such is the reason I don’t congratulate a woman who appears pregnant. I am intelligent enough to wait until further information.

Now, if the wallet flipped open upon falling, and I saw “male” on his driver license while picking it up…And, if he got onto the bus, I will leave it with the nearby officer and tell him a man dropped his wallet.

Pshaw. In the hypothetical I posed, there is no doubt re male/femaleness–the individual is unequivocally XY, and is unequivocally signalling a preference to be considered female. There’s no ‘unsure’ about it. So, which pronoun are you going to use?

No, but I don’t conclude that.

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For this hypothetical are you telling me it is a male dressed as a woman?

My hypothetical, my rules. And in the hypothetical, it is a given that you do conclude exactly that.

Gonna have to answer eventually–might as well bite the bullet and do so.

But that’s foreign to me. You can’t set up a hypothetical on conclusions I would hold off on.

Would you call out mam or sir?

If there’s an Adams apple it’s a dude. Learned that in Thailand.

I’m surprised to hear that. Which is foreign to you–the ability to identify a person’s phenotype as male, or the ability to see that a person is garbed as a woman?

I say I’m surprised because, upthread, you intimated that gender-related apperceptions are so easy that you expressed incredulity when I questioned you on it (“Eye, if you really need this explained…”).

Did you learn it the (heh heh) hard way? (Nudge nudge wink wink)

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What if you manage to successfully navigate that pronoun mine field. The person walks into the building you just came out of. You get to the corner store and pick up some Gatorade and gummies for your wife who is competing in a powerlifting meet.

She has competed for the past 5 years and each year she has busted her ass but came second to Rita Ricardo, an excellent lifter. But your wife has really dedicated herself this year. Has not missed a training session, given up nights out, missed time with her family, stuck to a tough diet even at social outings to finally reach her goal.

So squats come up and your wife’s opener flies up. Then comes out Erin Echidna, the person who’s wallet you attempted to steal. She blows everyone’s openers away.

Your wife finally beats Rita not only on the day but her best total. Erin though, demolishes the field, wins by 124lbs and superior wilks.

Your wife is in tears and in the moment feels she has had something she’s worked very hard for taken away. Do you say “The better woman won on the day” or “you were the best woman on the day?” or do you point and say “that’s a friggin man!!!”?

Not me…

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