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[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
That should be Kirby, fuck Lee didn’t even write Captain America until issue 4[/quote]

You really should cut Stan Lee some slack already. Taking credit for other peoples’ work is endemic in publishing. It’s not like he was the first or last person to do it. I get that it’s easy to blame him for the plagiarism because he was the face of Marvel, but that face sold comics and built an empire, so it’s not like he’s some two-bit talentless shyster.

No hate for DC I notice, who fucked just as many writers out of due credit. I could just as easily say “fuck Bob Kane”. Nobody cared about credit until comic books really took off. There was no money in it.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
That should be Kirby, fuck Lee didn’t even write Captain America until issue 4[/quote]

You really should cut Stan Lee some slack already. Taking credit for other peoples’ work in endemic in publishing. It’s not like he was the first or last person to do it. I get that it’s easy to blame him for the plagiarism because he was the face of Marvel, but that face sold comics and built an empire, so it’s not like he’s some two-bit talentless shyster.

No hate for DC I notice, who fucked just as many writers out of due credit. I could just as easily say “fuck Bob Kane”. Nobody cared about credit until comic books really took off. There was no money in it.[/quote]
Actually I rooted for Jerry Seigel’s family when they sued DC and won back ownership of Superboy I hope they win in their latest case and take Superman to Marvel as the rumors where saying. I don’t like people like Lee at all, they’re good talkers but can’t do shit I’ve dealt with them all my life in sports, and in work and they will always fuck themselves at some point.

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Oh Colbert sometimes you make me laugh like today. Colbert discusses the new Ultimate Spiderman

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[quote]kevinm1 wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
That should be Kirby, fuck Lee didn’t even write Captain America until issue 4[/quote]

You really should cut Stan Lee some slack already. Taking credit for other peoples’ work in endemic in publishing. It’s not like he was the first or last person to do it. I get that it’s easy to blame him for the plagiarism because he was the face of Marvel, but that face sold comics and built an empire, so it’s not like he’s some two-bit talentless shyster.

No hate for DC I notice, who fucked just as many writers out of due credit. I could just as easily say “fuck Bob Kane”. Nobody cared about credit until comic books really took off. There was no money in it.[/quote]
Actually I rooted for Jerry Seigel’s family when they sued DC and won back ownership of Superboy I hope they win in their latest case and take Superman to Marvel as the rumors where saying. I don’t like people like Lee at all, they’re good talkers but can’t do shit I’ve dealt with them all my life in sports, and in work and they will always fuck themselves at some point.[/quote]

I don’t agree with the idea that Stan Lee “can’t do shit” - In a “what if?” scenario, if writers had maintained creative control over their creations from day one and Stan Lee had never existed, do you think we’d have received all of Marvel’s output from the start, intact, as we have it 'til now?

I don’t. It would have been a clusterfuck of writers and publishers quibbling over rights, or people like Alan Moore refusing to sell the movie rights to their creations (and he’s said himself that he’d do that given the chance).

I’m all in favor of writers and artists getting their due, but I think you’re downplaying Stan Lee’s role in bringing us the characters. Every good band needs a frontman. Lee was a frontman. That’s what he did.

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[quote]roybot wrote:
I could just as easily say “fuck Bob Kane”.[/quote]

Bob Kane is the one that really pisses me off, much more so than Lee. Admittedly, that’s partly because Batman is my favorite character, so I constantly see/hear the guy’s name. Bill Finger gets no recognition or credit for his contribution to Batman in the mainstream media. Only comic geeks like us know he even existed.

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[quote]CC wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
I could just as easily say “fuck Bob Kane”.[/quote]

Bob Kane is the one that really pisses me off, much more so than Lee. Admittedly, that’s partly because Batman is my favorite character, so I constantly see/hear the guy’s name. Bill Finger gets no recognition or credit for his contribution to Batman in the mainstream media. Only comic geeks like us know he even existed.[/quote]

Yeah. Bill definitely got the finger on that. Bob Kane is far worse than Stan Lee in my eyes, too.

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[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
Fuck Diablo III as well. Blizzard is really starting to piss me off for a myriad of small reasons. Primarily because Diablo 3 has been “TBA” since I was still in pre-school and now because you have to be online to play and also their micropurchase system, i.e. if you want the best gear, you have to literally pay for it out of your wallet. [/quote]

To be fair this is how Blizzard has always done things. I’d rather them do this then give a date, move it, give a date, move it. SC2 was the same, much anticipation and then, they actually delivered.

Also beta starts in 3 weeks.

Also one thing that I think is going to be very interesting is the new Auction House where you can sell items for REAL MONEY.

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[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
That should be Kirby, fuck Lee didn’t even write Captain America until issue 4[/quote]

Jesus Christ - can everyone from the Geek S**T threads pool our money so we can do documentary on Jack “KING” Kirby and Bill Finger?

. . . Also, I can’t jump on the “fuck Stan Lee” train, at least not with a ticket. He stole credit, pushed great MEDIA-DEFINING talent away, etc, but he seems to have a great love for the art form, and has pushed the positives of comics, most notably the oft-maligned and generally silly super hero genre.

But without Kirby, there would not be a Marvel - American pop culture, and by extension, America itself, would be a very different place.

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http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/mad-max-fury-road-scrambles-for-locations

Didnt know they were doing this, I hope they do it right. I wonder who the lead is going to be?

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[quote]DJHT wrote:
http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/mad-max-fury-road-scrambles-for-locations

Didnt know they were doing this, I hope they do it right. I wonder who the lead is going to be?[/quote]

Tom Hardy.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/mad-max-fury-road-scrambles-for-locations

Didnt know they were doing this, I hope they do it right. I wonder who the lead is going to be?[/quote]

Tom Hardy.[/quote]

I am not surprised you know this. :slight_smile:

So reading that they are doing a trilogy, please dont fuck it up.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/mad-max-fury-road-scrambles-for-locations

Didnt know they were doing this, I hope they do it right. I wonder who the lead is going to be?[/quote]

Tom Hardy.[/quote]

I am not surprised you know this. :slight_smile:

So reading that they are doing a trilogy, please dont fuck it up. [/quote]

If George Miller directs all three and they don’t throw money at it, it should be in safe hands. I think Tom Hardy’s a great choice, but I’m surprised they didn’t go for an Australian up-and-comer like Chris Hemsworth, considering that the previous two candidates before TH were both aussies : Heath Ledger was going to do it before he died, and the rumored lead before him was Dominic Purcell (that was before he did Blade Trinity, though).

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/mad-max-fury-road-scrambles-for-locations

Didnt know they were doing this, I hope they do it right. I wonder who the lead is going to be?[/quote]

Tom Hardy.[/quote]

I am not surprised you know this. :slight_smile:

So reading that they are doing a trilogy, please dont fuck it up. [/quote]

If George Miller directs all three and they don’t throw money at it, it should be in safe hands. I think Tom Hardy’s a great choice, but I’m surprised they didn’t go for an Australian up-and-comer like Chris Hemsworth, considering that the previous two candidates before TH were both aussies : Heath Ledger was going to do it before he died, and the rumored lead before him was Dominic Purcell (that was before he did Blade Trinity, though).[/quote]

Well I thought the Aussie angle was just because Mel did the first one, I doubt it is necessary for the reboot. Hardy is a good choice, Hemsworth seems a little to GQ to me, Hardy has that edge needed for this role.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/mad-max-fury-road-scrambles-for-locations

Didnt know they were doing this, I hope they do it right. I wonder who the lead is going to be?[/quote]

Tom Hardy.[/quote]

I am not surprised you know this. :slight_smile:

So reading that they are doing a trilogy, please dont fuck it up. [/quote]

If George Miller directs all three and they don’t throw money at it, it should be in safe hands. I think Tom Hardy’s a great choice, but I’m surprised they didn’t go for an Australian up-and-comer like Chris Hemsworth, considering that the previous two candidates before TH were both aussies : Heath Ledger was going to do it before he died, and the rumored lead before him was Dominic Purcell (that was before he did Blade Trinity, though).[/quote]

Well I thought the Aussie angle was just because Mel did the first one, I doubt it is necessary for the reboot. Hardy is a good choice, Hemsworth seems a little to GQ to me, Hardy has that edge needed for this role. [/quote]

I’m confused now. They were all Australian in the original. Did you see the dubbed version?

I was going by some outdated information: when Ledger was going to do it, they planned it as a continuation, not a reboot, with Heath as Max’s son and Mel returning to pass the torch on to a new lead for a fresh start (similar to what they did in Indy 4).

If it’s a reboot with TH as Max, as it seems to be, then they aren’t restricted by what has come before and they can throw the rule book away.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/mad-max-fury-road-scrambles-for-locations

Didnt know they were doing this, I hope they do it right. I wonder who the lead is going to be?[/quote]

Tom Hardy.[/quote]

I am not surprised you know this. :slight_smile:

So reading that they are doing a trilogy, please dont fuck it up. [/quote]

If George Miller directs all three and they don’t throw money at it, it should be in safe hands. I think Tom Hardy’s a great choice, but I’m surprised they didn’t go for an Australian up-and-comer like Chris Hemsworth, considering that the previous two candidates before TH were both aussies : Heath Ledger was going to do it before he died, and the rumored lead before him was Dominic Purcell (that was before he did Blade Trinity, though).[/quote]

Well I thought the Aussie angle was just because Mel did the first one, I doubt it is necessary for the reboot. Hardy is a good choice, Hemsworth seems a little to GQ to me, Hardy has that edge needed for this role. [/quote]

I’m confused now. They were all Australian in the original. Did you see the dubbed version?

I was going by some outdated information: when Ledger was going to do it, they planned it as a continuation, not a reboot, with Heath as Max’s son and Mel returning to pass the torch on to a new lead for a fresh start (similar to what they did in Indy 4).

If it’s a reboot with TH as Max, as it seems to be, then they aren’t restricted by what has come before and they can throw the rule book away.[/quote]

Yes I have seen the original, Mel was the lead character and I am sure was in some way part of the screen play or producer (not sure on that). It was an Aussie film, and Mel of course showed his ability to act and thus made it popular.
What I was saying was that since this is probably a reboot, it doesnt have to be “Aussie” they could easily make it English? American? whatever its a post apocalyptic movie. I mean the last one really did not have a “Aussie” feel to it, much more American to me.

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Interesting this was played after Batman the Brave and the Bold

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/mad-max-fury-road-scrambles-for-locations

Didnt know they were doing this, I hope they do it right. I wonder who the lead is going to be?[/quote]

Tom Hardy.[/quote]

I am not surprised you know this. :slight_smile:

So reading that they are doing a trilogy, please dont fuck it up. [/quote]

If George Miller directs all three and they don’t throw money at it, it should be in safe hands. I think Tom Hardy’s a great choice, but I’m surprised they didn’t go for an Australian up-and-comer like Chris Hemsworth, considering that the previous two candidates before TH were both aussies : Heath Ledger was going to do it before he died, and the rumored lead before him was Dominic Purcell (that was before he did Blade Trinity, though).[/quote]

Well I thought the Aussie angle was just because Mel did the first one, I doubt it is necessary for the reboot. Hardy is a good choice, Hemsworth seems a little to GQ to me, Hardy has that edge needed for this role. [/quote]

I’m confused now. They were all Australian in the original. Did you see the dubbed version?

I was going by some outdated information: when Ledger was going to do it, they planned it as a continuation, not a reboot, with Heath as Max’s son and Mel returning to pass the torch on to a new lead for a fresh start (similar to what they did in Indy 4).

If it’s a reboot with TH as Max, as it seems to be, then they aren’t restricted by what has come before and they can throw the rule book away.[/quote]

Yes I have seen the original, Mel was the lead character and I am sure was in some way part of the screen play or producer (not sure on that). It was an Aussie film, and Mel of course showed his ability to act and thus made it popular.
What I was saying was that since this is probably a reboot, it doesnt have to be “Aussie” they could easily make it English? American? whatever its a post apocalyptic movie. I mean the last one really did not have a “Aussie” feel to it, much more American to me. [/quote]

Yeah. I understood what you meant, but when I made the comment about not casting an Australian in the lead, I was going by the earlier plan of the lead being Max’s son and didn’t realize it’s now a reboot until I looked at the second link you posted. Obviously with a reboot they can start with a clean slate.

The part I was confused about is that the originals to me are all predominantly Australian in feel. They are influenced on some level by American cinema, but not directly because they come out of an Australian sub-genre called Ozploitation - similar to American grindhouse flicks.

I wasn’t being patronizing when I asked if you’d seen dubbed versions - they released a dubbed version of Mad Max with American accents replacing the original actors’ voices.

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[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:

[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
Fuck Diablo III as well. Blizzard is really starting to piss me off for a myriad of small reasons. Primarily because Diablo 3 has been “TBA” since I was still in pre-school and now because you have to be online to play and also their micropurchase system, i.e. if you want the best gear, you have to literally pay for it out of your wallet. [/quote]

To be fair this is how Blizzard has always done things. I’d rather them do this then give a date, move it, give a date, move it. SC2 was the same, much anticipation and then, they actually delivered.

[/quote]

After reconsideration, I agree with this.

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Okay guys got black ops for Xbox

Roy no worries man just talking