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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Tomb Raider- Impressive. Once they learn how to make convincing CGI skin, video games will be like movies.
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Uncanny valley, you know?
The more a human face actually looks like a human face, the less it does.
Creeps people out, for whatever reason.
Big leap there. [/quote]
They can’t properly mo-cap eyes yet. Photo-realistic CGI characters don’t have dilating pupils. They are dead eyed. If they could create a dilation sensitive contact lense, the uncanny valley effect would be kaput. [/quote]
That might be part of the answer, but I doubt that it is the whole answer.
If you study body language, we communicate so much we are not even aware of, but we notice instantly when something is missing.
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Paralinguistics isn’t infallible. Commercial PUAs would like to have you think that because it’s their living, but you can’t use body language to read people to the extent that they say you can. They never disclose their failures -that would affect their reputation.
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Well, you cant listen to what people actually say either and think that you know them,but that does not mean that you do not listen.
However, you are making my point, as long as we miss stuff we cannot replicate it. [/quote]
OK. What is the uncanny valley in your opinion?[/quote]
Dunno.
I do not like to make up unsatisfactory answers just so that I pretend that I know.
Sometimes “dunno” is enough. [/quote]
You kinda did make up an unsatisfactory answer by mentioning the uncanny valley in the first place. We don’t have a finely honed sense of when something is missing - in fact we suck at it. Take something as simple as a movie - a standard 24 frames per second and we see moving images faster than the eye can follow. It’s a flick book effect with our brains filling in the gaps. The blank frames are gone. You don’t miss them.
It boggles my mind that PUAs claim they can be so observant through body language but use stage magic as an ice breaker. That isn’t observation. There is no correlation between what you’ve studied as body language (material geared towards getting in the pants- I mean head of a woman) and the uncanny valley effect.
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I never claimed that there was.
I would, if pressed, but I dont think that I ever did- [/quote]
So if I pressed you for an answer (which I did when I asked for your opinion on what the uncanny effect is), your reply would be a claim you never made…but you would make it if pressed. Okaay. What I’m saying to you, without any bullshit prevarication, is that the study of body language as it pertains to picking up people in bars should not be used to explain the uncanny valley effect.
The focus of PUA body language is to ego driven and has far too narrow a focus. If you really want to study human behaviour, throw out the e-books by Coco the Goth Stud and bury your head in behavioural psychology (that’s where all the PUA material is from) and neuroscience - the basic magazine level stuff has a far more enlightening perspective on the human psyche than any of the junk geared towards “making you a hit with women”.
And you could try giving straight answers to direct questions when pressed.
