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[quote]Bujo wrote:
Batman: The Animated Series 1992-1995

  • This series is responsible for casting Kevin Conroy ans Batman, and Mark Hamill as the Joker. Probably the best voice talent (arguably the best actors period) for those two characters ever. This series also created Harley Quinn who was so awesome that DC included her in the comic books. Which subsequently led to the Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, and Catwoman team-up. Renee Montoya was also created for the animated series who has since become the new Question in the comic books and betrayed Maggie Gyllenhal in the last Batman movie. This show almost single-handedly revitalized Batman antagonists like Mr Freeze, the Ventriloquist, Clayface, and Mad Hatter. This is probably one of the best renditions of Batman ever.

Batman: Mask of the Phantasm

  • Arguably the best Batman film ever. It goes into the origin of Batman, but doesn’t feel contrite or repetitive. It pays heed to the Bruce Wayne/Batman dynamic and the consequences of past choices. The story is on par with Shakespeare’s classic tragedies, quite sad at times, violent at others, and entertaining throughout.

From there checkout the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited animated series. You may also enjoy Superman: The Animated Series as well.

As for the DC animated movies. There isn’t a bad one in the bunch. All Star Superman might be my least favorite, but that’s just because they tried to fit too much story into a 75 minute film. I say watch them all.

On the Marvel side watch Planet Hulk, and Hulk vs Wolverine.[/quote]

Awesome! Yeah, I just stumbled upon Mark of the Phantasm at f.y.e. yesterday and was wondering if it was any good. I’ll have to check it out.

As far as the Animated Series, I remember watching that heavily as a kid when it was actually still running (just checked wiki, I was only 11 when that came on?!; man, I feel old . . .). Sometimes I wonder if that contributes more to my like of the “dark” version of Batman than any other influence. Either way, it was a kick ass series, and I highly look forward to revisiting it.

I’ll look into the other stuff you mentioned, as well. Thanks for the contribution.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
All star superman sucked ass.

I threw that dvd out the car window doing 65…and then stopped the car, threw it in reverse, and ran back over it doing 35.[/quote]

That’s, uh, pretty intense X.

Think I’ll be staying away from that one.

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[quote]CC wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
All star superman sucked ass.

I threw that dvd out the car window doing 65…and then stopped the car, threw it in reverse, and ran back over it doing 35.[/quote]

That’s, uh, pretty intense X.

Think I’ll be staying away from that one.[/quote]

I was honestly insulted. That might have been an awesome piece of art…if this were 1959 or earlier. That was the Superman they presented and it just didn’t go over well.

It would be a little like having Captain America act like it is still the 1940’s…only in 2011.

They put all of this effort into making him appear “God-like”…which completely removed the humanity that makes him who he is.

Clark doesn’t even see himself like that even if he can fly in space.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]CC wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
All star superman sucked ass.

I threw that dvd out the car window doing 65…and then stopped the car, threw it in reverse, and ran back over it doing 35.[/quote]

That’s, uh, pretty intense X.

Think I’ll be staying away from that one.[/quote]

I was honestly insulted. That might have been an awesome piece of art…if this were 1959 or earlier. That was the Superman they presented and it just didn’t go over well.

It would be a little like having Captain America act like it is still the 1940’s…only in 2011.

They put all of this effort into making him appear “God-like”…which completely removed the humanity that makes him who he is.

Clark doesn’t even see himself like that even if he can fly in space.[/quote]

I’ve never been a big Superman guy anyway (I was more into him when I was younger, but who wasn’t?). As I got older I was just drawn more to Batman, because of that humanity you speak of and the realism that his character presents more than Supes and lot of the other characters out there. If that’s missing from “All Star,” then I definitely won’t mind not wasting my time on it.

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[quote]kevinm1 wrote:

And one for Spider-Man[/quote]
Here is a high quality non bootleg version.

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[quote]CC wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]CC wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
All star superman sucked ass.

I threw that dvd out the car window doing 65…and then stopped the car, threw it in reverse, and ran back over it doing 35.[/quote]

That’s, uh, pretty intense X.

Think I’ll be staying away from that one.[/quote]

I was honestly insulted. That might have been an awesome piece of art…if this were 1959 or earlier. That was the Superman they presented and it just didn’t go over well.

It would be a little like having Captain America act like it is still the 1940’s…only in 2011.

They put all of this effort into making him appear “God-like”…which completely removed the humanity that makes him who he is.

Clark doesn’t even see himself like that even if he can fly in space.[/quote]

I’ve never been a big Superman guy anyway (I was more into him when I was younger, but who wasn’t?). As I got older I was just drawn more to Batman, because of that humanity you speak of and the realism that his character presents more than Supes and lot of the other characters out there. If that’s missing from “All Star,” then I definitely won’t mind not wasting my time on it.[/quote]

Prof X partially hit the nail on the head. Grant Morrison wrote All-Star Superman more in the style of comics from the 50s-60s. Plus, Grant Morrison isn’t for everybody. Hell, I like Grant Morrison, but some of the shit he writes (I’m talking about Final Crisis) is just off the wall weird and not in a good way.

SPOILERS WATCH OUT****

All-Star Superman is essentially the story of Superman’s last year on Earth. He’s putting his affairs in order and preparing for his own death. He asks out the girls he loves, reveals his secret identity, and basically opens up his life to those closest to him.

As for Superman’s humanity being removed…That’s a load of bull. Superman’s humanity is measured by his interaction with others not by his abilities. Superman’s proves his humanity thru his actions, like his date night Super Lois, and hot footing the jackass flirting with Lois. He showed mercy to the Kryptonians that tried to take over Earth, and vengeance against the beast that nearly killed the sun. If anything Superman proved himself to be the pinnacle of humanity mostly in the form of compassion. It’s seen in the way he treats the baby sun-eater, in the way he deals with Lex Luthor, and in reverse Lex’s opinions of Clark.

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Ok I’m excited.

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SDCC Special Guests…

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[quote]Bujo wrote:

[quote]CC wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]CC wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
All star superman sucked ass.

I threw that dvd out the car window doing 65…and then stopped the car, threw it in reverse, and ran back over it doing 35.[/quote]

That’s, uh, pretty intense X.

Think I’ll be staying away from that one.[/quote]

I was honestly insulted. That might have been an awesome piece of art…if this were 1959 or earlier. That was the Superman they presented and it just didn’t go over well.

It would be a little like having Captain America act like it is still the 1940’s…only in 2011.

They put all of this effort into making him appear “God-like”…which completely removed the humanity that makes him who he is.

Clark doesn’t even see himself like that even if he can fly in space.[/quote]

I’ve never been a big Superman guy anyway (I was more into him when I was younger, but who wasn’t?). As I got older I was just drawn more to Batman, because of that humanity you speak of and the realism that his character presents more than Supes and lot of the other characters out there. If that’s missing from “All Star,” then I definitely won’t mind not wasting my time on it.[/quote]

Prof X partially hit the nail on the head. Grant Morrison wrote All-Star Superman more in the style of comics from the 50s-60s. Plus, Grant Morrison isn’t for everybody. Hell, I like Grant Morrison, but some of the shit he writes (I’m talking about Final Crisis) is just off the wall weird and not in a good way.

SPOILERS WATCH OUT****

All-Star Superman is essentially the story of Superman’s last year on Earth. He’s putting his affairs in order and preparing for his own death. He asks out the girls he loves, reveals his secret identity, and basically opens up his life to those closest to him.

As for Superman’s humanity being removed…That’s a load of bull. Superman’s humanity is measured by his interaction with others not by his abilities. Superman’s proves his humanity thru his actions, like his date night Super Lois, and hot footing the jackass flirting with Lois. He showed mercy to the Kryptonians that tried to take over Earth, and vengeance against the beast that nearly killed the sun. If anything Superman proved himself to be the pinnacle of humanity mostly in the form of compassion. It’s seen in the way he treats the baby sun-eater, in the way he deals with Lex Luthor, and in reverse Lex’s opinions of Clark. [/quote]

More spoliers:

I found all of that shit cheesy as hell on dvd. Maybe it was beautiful in the comics…but here, it was painful watching how they treated that issue with him and Lois where she starts tripping out thinking he is going to hurt her. They made him seem so alien from top to bottom (the scene of him carving his thoughts into rock comes to mind…something that by itself seems awesome but with everything else just made hims seem even more NON-human).

I hated that little bit where Lois’ affections are being competed for…and just because it’s her birthday, she makes him fight for her.

CHEESY.

I bet it was a great read though.

It just sucked on film because pushed together, these scenes came together as a huge alien mash-up of random nods to superman’s mythology.

For instance…I have a hard time with the concept of a “city in a bottle” they way to was conceptualized back in the 50’s…like a giant pill bottle with a city inside.

That looks stupid today.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
More spoliers:

I found all of that shit cheesy as hell on dvd. Maybe it was beautiful in the comics…but here, it was painful watching how they treated that issue with him and Lois where she starts tripping out thinking he is going to hurt her. They made him seem so alien from top to bottom (the scene of him carving his thoughts into rock comes to mind…something that by itself seems awesome but with everything else just made hims seem even more NON-human).

I hated that little bit where Lois’ affections are being competed for…and just because it’s her birthday, she makes him fight for her.

CHEESY.[/quote]

Certainly understandable, especially when we’re used to Clark ad Lois being married for that 20 years or so. Morrison’s take on Lois wasn’t the most flattering.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I bet it was a great read though.

It just sucked on film because pushed together, these scenes came together as a huge alien mash-up of random nods to superman’s mythology.

For instance…I have a hard time with the concept of a “city in a bottle” they way to was conceptualized back in the 50’s…like a giant pill bottle with a city inside.

That looks stupid today.[/quote]

The books were a good read if you could push all the other Superman history out of your mind. Otherwise it would come across as very odd, and sometimes contradictory what most would expect from Superman.

Agreed about the film. It had a very jumbled and rushed feel to it. That is my biggest complaint. That happens a lot when books are made into movies though. The Golden Compass comes to mind.

This is where we differ. I dig the Bottle City of Kandor. I think its awesome and hilarious that Braniac used to go around shrinking cities and storing them as part of some special collection. What I think is dumb, is that Kandor was restored to normal in the 30th-31st century by the Legion of Superheros, and that even after a few hundred years the Kryptonians had not expanded their city. They were the only civilization on the entire planet and yet never set out to explore or expand.

One of my biggest complaints about modern comics is the loss of the sheer fantastic and crazy ideas that flowed endlessly out of the 60s.

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[quote]Bujo wrote:

[quote]CC wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]CC wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
All star superman sucked ass.

I threw that dvd out the car window doing 65…and then stopped the car, threw it in reverse, and ran back over it doing 35.[/quote]

That’s, uh, pretty intense X.

Think I’ll be staying away from that one.[/quote]

I was honestly insulted. That might have been an awesome piece of art…if this were 1959 or earlier. That was the Superman they presented and it just didn’t go over well.

It would be a little like having Captain America act like it is still the 1940’s…only in 2011.

They put all of this effort into making him appear “God-like”…which completely removed the humanity that makes him who he is.

Clark doesn’t even see himself like that even if he can fly in space.[/quote]

I’ve never been a big Superman guy anyway (I was more into him when I was younger, but who wasn’t?). As I got older I was just drawn more to Batman, because of that humanity you speak of and the realism that his character presents more than Supes and lot of the other characters out there. If that’s missing from “All Star,” then I definitely won’t mind not wasting my time on it.[/quote]

Prof X partially hit the nail on the head. Grant Morrison wrote All-Star Superman more in the style of comics from the 50s-60s. Plus, Grant Morrison isn’t for everybody. Hell, I like Grant Morrison, but some of the shit he writes (I’m talking about Final Crisis) is just off the wall weird and not in a good way.

SPOILERS WATCH OUT****

All-Star Superman is essentially the story of Superman’s last year on Earth. He’s putting his affairs in order and preparing for his own death. He asks out the girls he loves, reveals his secret identity, and basically opens up his life to those closest to him.

As for Superman’s humanity being removed…That’s a load of bull. Superman’s humanity is measured by his interaction with others not by his abilities. Superman’s proves his humanity thru his actions, like his date night Super Lois, and hot footing the jackass flirting with Lois. He showed mercy to the Kryptonians that tried to take over Earth, and vengeance against the beast that nearly killed the sun. If anything Superman proved himself to be the pinnacle of humanity mostly in the form of compassion. It’s seen in the way he treats the baby sun-eater, in the way he deals with Lex Luthor, and in reverse Lex’s opinions of Clark. [/quote]
Morrison is hit or miss you can see the love he has for the silver age storylines and he knows his stuff but I really was turned off by his X-Men run, making a character gay just for the sake of it is dumb thankfully marvel slapped him and said “NO! Beast is not gay, Bad comic writer bad NO!”

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Ha! I’d forgotten about Beast being gay. I’m still pissed about Final Crisis. I enjoyed “Countdown to Final Crisis” and thought all the plot lines would be tied together in Final Crisis. What I got was the mad ramblings of a Scotsman on LSD. Final Crisis was so disjointed that it hardly fit with all the Countdown issues that led up to it.

Nothing seemed to make sense with the existing story lines, then Morrison topped it off by having an army of Supermen fight a Vampire. The battle was won by Kal-El wishing for a happy ending. The whole thing came off as some snobby, esoteric crap that could only be truly appreciated by those with literature degrees.

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[quote]Bujo wrote:
Ha! I’d forgotten about Beast being gay. I’m still pissed about Final Crisis. I enjoyed “Countdown to Final Crisis” and thought all the plot lines would be tied together in Final Crisis. What I got was the mad ramblings of a Scotsman on LSD. Final Crisis was so disjointed that it hardly fit with all the Countdown issues that led up to it.

Nothing seemed to make sense with the existing story lines, then Morrison topped it off by having an army of Supermen fight a Vampire. The battle was won by Kal-El wishing for a happy ending. The whole thing came off as some snobby, esoteric crap that could only be truly appreciated by those with literature degrees. [/quote]
Yeah I don’t know what DC was thinking with that, Infinate Crisis was awesome even if they did kill the real Blue Beetle, Identity Crisis was amazing then they give us FInal Crisis and it made no sense I think DC just wanted to put Dick Greyson in the Batsuit again

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Oh this is going to suck worse than the EXTREME!! 90’s comics

Really the only books I’m looking forward to in the DC reboot are
Hawkman
JLI
Hawk and Dove(although I hate Liefeld art) I’m really upset they’re cancelling Justice Society as I’ve been into them since I first picked up Infinity Inc in the 80’s and I think all this will just end really bad for DC

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[quote]Bujo wrote:
Prof X partially hit the nail on the head. Grant Morrison wrote All-Star Superman more in the style of comics from the 50s-60s. Plus, Grant Morrison isn’t for everybody. Hell, I like Grant Morrison, but some of the shit he writes (I’m talking about Final Crisis) is just off the wall weird and not in a good way.[/quote]

Yeah, I have a buddy who got to sit in on one of Grant Morrison’s panels at SDCC (not this year, one in the past), and he said he’s batshit crazy. Started talking about messages from aliens and some other weird stuff, apparently.

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Hawkeye poster for Avengers film

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[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
Hawkeye poster for Avengers film[/quote]

Please tell me he gets a mask, I can handle if his suit isn’t purple but give him a mask.

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