Gay Rage

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Born an X-man and proud of it.
By all psychological testing I and my kind account for 1.5% of the worlds total population.
Yet you fear me because of that which you do not know…
your ignorance will be your undoing…
Unique and Deadly to those who do not know…[/quote]

The question is can you reproduce?[/quote]

One or both partners can submit sperm for IVF, and contract with a surrogate mother to bear a child.

In the case of a lesbian couple, one or both partners can become pregnant via IVF and bear the children themselves.

As I’ve hinted before, eventually the technology will become available to take haploid gametes from each partner and combine them to form a zygote from the genetic information of two male or two female partners. So the short answer to your question is “yes”.[/quote]

And what happens when civilization falls like when Rome fell and we went into the Dark Ages? You being a precious metals bug can understand that.

Instead of creating racist threads after being called out a million times c-dog has decided to become a drive by racist fairy. What’s going on in here, little discussion? Better sprinkle some racism in here!

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Born an X-man and proud of it.
By all psychological testing I and my kind account for 1.5% of the worlds total population.
Yet you fear me because of that which you do not know…
your ignorance will be your undoing…
Unique and Deadly to those who do not know…[/quote]

The question is can you reproduce?[/quote]

One or both partners can submit sperm for IVF, and contract with a surrogate mother to bear a child.

In the case of a lesbian couple, one or both partners can become pregnant via IVF and bear the children themselves.

As I’ve hinted before, eventually the technology will become available to take haploid gametes from each partner and combine them to form a zygote from the genetic information of two male or two female partners. So the short answer to your question is “yes”.[/quote]

And what happens when civilization falls like when Rome fell and we went into the Dark Ages? You being a precious metals bug can understand that.
[/quote]

Why would homosexuality lead to the fall of civilizations? It isn’t like it’s a new occurrence.

[quote]H factor wrote:
Instead of creating racist threads after being called out a million times c-dog has decided to become a drive by racist fairy. What’s going on in here, little discussion? Better sprinkle some racism in here! [/quote]

…isn’t it funny how liberals have no sense of humor?

you can make jokes about fat people, short people, people with short dicks, asians with short dicks, honkey, whitey, cracker, poor white trash, the south, Christians, conservatives, conservatives with short dicks but touch inside a liberal boundary and look who is so insecure with who they are?

liberals ruin every civilization on the face of the earth because of their one step thinking.

Never have felt the need to bring another one of “me” into this fucked up society we have.
The “dark ages” where primarily the result of “church indoctrination” and set back science about
a 1000 years. So yeah, why would I want to contribute to that which I do not believe in ?

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Never have felt the need to bring another one of “me” into this fucked up society we have.
The “dark ages” where primarily the result of “church indoctrination” and set back science about
a 1000 years. So yeah, why would I want to contribute to that which I do not believe in ?[/quote]

With all respect, you really need to learn what the hell you’re talking about when it comes to history. The dark ages were not the result of church indoctrination. In fact you could potentially argue the reverse: church indoctrination was the result of the collapse into the dark centuries of European history. I don’t think I would try it, but it is a more tenable position than the nonsense you just posted.

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:
Instead of creating racist threads after being called out a million times c-dog has decided to become a drive by racist fairy. What’s going on in here, little discussion? Better sprinkle some racism in here! [/quote]

…isn’t it funny how liberals have no sense of humor?

you can make jokes about fat people, short people, people with short dicks, asians with short dicks, honkey, whitey, cracker, poor white trash, the south, Christians, conservatives, conservatives with short dicks but touch inside a liberal boundary and look who is so insecure with who they are?

liberals ruin every civilization on the face of the earth because of their one step thinking.

[/quote]

You’re fucking racist, the whole forum knows it, you get called out on it and then try and blame other people. You realize MOST of the people who have called you out on this site are conservatives? You realize you say liberal all the fucking time for no reason? You realize you’re an old, scared, piss-ant of a human who hates people because of the color of skin they were born with?

The problem with you isn’t anyone’s sense of humor, it’s with you. The problem with you isn’t liberals, it’s you. The problem with you isn’t black people, it’s you. Blaming one step thinking in a thread where everyone is debating something and the race fairy has to stop in. You make this place so much worse and if you’re truly a conservative you make it tougher for them to ever win elections by being associated with people like you.

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:
Instead of creating racist threads after being called out a million times c-dog has decided to become a drive by racist fairy. What’s going on in here, little discussion? Better sprinkle some racism in here! [/quote]

…isn’t it funny how liberals have no sense of humor?

you can make jokes about fat people, short people, people with short dicks, asians with short dicks, honkey, whitey, cracker, poor white trash, the south, Christians, conservatives, conservatives with short dicks but touch inside a liberal boundary and look who is so insecure with who they are?

liberals ruin every civilization on the face of the earth because of their one step thinking.

[/quote]

You’re fucking racist, the whole forum knows it, you get called out on it and then try and blame other people. You realize MOST of the people who have called you out on this site are conservatives? You realize you say liberal all the fucking time for no reason? You realize you’re an old, scared, piss-ant of a human who hates people because of the color of skin they were born with?

The problem with you isn’t anyone’s sense of humor, it’s with you. The problem with you isn’t liberals, it’s you. The problem with you isn’t black people, it’s you. Blaming one step thinking in a thread where everyone is debating something and the race fairy has to stop in. You make this place so much worse and if you’re truly a conservative you make it tougher for them to ever win elections by being associated with people like you. [/quote]I keep telling you all that he was a troll who went by the screen the Overfiend. One of his M.O.s is that he never posts an original thought or idea. He also is obsessed with dicks.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Born an X-man and proud of it.
By all psychological testing I and my kind account for 1.5% of the worlds total population.
Yet you fear me because of that which you do not know…
your ignorance will be your undoing…
Unique and Deadly to those who do not know…[/quote]

The question is can you reproduce?[/quote]

One or both partners can submit sperm for IVF, and contract with a surrogate mother to bear a child.

In the case of a lesbian couple, one or both partners can become pregnant via IVF and bear the children themselves.

As I’ve hinted before, eventually the technology will become available to take haploid gametes from each partner and combine them to form a zygote from the genetic information of two male or two female partners. So the short answer to your question is “yes”.[/quote]

And what happens when civilization falls like when Rome fell and we went into the Dark Ages? You being a precious metals bug can understand that.
[/quote]

Well, first off, homosexuality didn’t really bring about the fall of the Western Roman Empire. The Visigoths did that by blockading the Tiber and cutting off grain shipments from Africa. By all reports, they were for the most part heterosexual. The Eastern Empire fell when the Muslims conquered Constantinople. Again, a largely heterosexual lot.

If our empire falls it will more likely be a result of economic failure leading to a weakening of our infrastructure and ability to project military power than it will be due to any imagined weakening of social mores brought on by tolerance of homosexuality. Western Civilization, as represented by Europe, Anglophone Oceania and the Americas, probably has at least another century of preeminence before it is eclipsed by Islam, China and India.

Me being a precious metals bug, I can predict a new bimetallic (and perhaps tri-metallic, if platinum ever gains its historical ground over gold) monetary standard, which the new Islamic, Chinese and Indian civilizations will have already incorporated into their social and economic paradigms.

I’m not sweating it, in other words.

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:
Instead of creating racist threads after being called out a million times c-dog has decided to become a drive by racist fairy. What’s going on in here, little discussion? Better sprinkle some racism in here! [/quote]

…isn’t it funny how liberals have no sense of humor?

you can make jokes about fat people, short people, people with short dicks, asians with short dicks, honkey, whitey, cracker, poor white trash, the south, Christians, conservatives, conservatives with short dicks but touch inside a liberal boundary and look who is so insecure with who they are?

liberals ruin every civilization on the face of the earth because of their one step thinking.

[/quote]

You’re fucking racist, the whole forum knows it, you get called out on it and then try and blame other people. You realize MOST of the people who have called you out on this site are conservatives? You realize you say liberal all the fucking time for no reason? You realize you’re an old, scared, piss-ant of a human who hates people because of the color of skin they were born with?

The problem with you isn’t anyone’s sense of humor, it’s with you. The problem with you isn’t liberals, it’s you. The problem with you isn’t black people, it’s you. Blaming one step thinking in a thread where everyone is debating something and the race fairy has to stop in. You make this place so much worse and if you’re truly a conservative you make it tougher for them to ever win elections by being associated with people like you. [/quote]I keep telling you all that he was a troll who went by the screen the Overfiend. One of his M.O.s is that he never posts an original thought or idea. He also is obsessed with dicks.[/quote]

Oh I’m sure you’re right. He is obviously a troll. Why can’t he go back to that forum he used to annoy?

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:
Instead of creating racist threads after being called out a million times c-dog has decided to become a drive by racist fairy. What’s going on in here, little discussion? Better sprinkle some racism in here! [/quote]

…isn’t it funny how liberals have no sense of humor?

you can make jokes about fat people, short people, people with short dicks, asians with short dicks, honkey, whitey, cracker, poor white trash, the south, Christians, conservatives, conservatives with short dicks but touch inside a liberal boundary and look who is so insecure with who they are?

liberals ruin every civilization on the face of the earth because of their one step thinking.

[/quote]

You’re fucking racist, the whole forum knows it, you get called out on it and then try and blame other people. You realize MOST of the people who have called you out on this site are conservatives? You realize you say liberal all the fucking time for no reason? You realize you’re an old, scared, piss-ant of a human who hates people because of the color of skin they were born with?

The problem with you isn’t anyone’s sense of humor, it’s with you. The problem with you isn’t liberals, it’s you. The problem with you isn’t black people, it’s you. Blaming one step thinking in a thread where everyone is debating something and the race fairy has to stop in. You make this place so much worse and if you’re truly a conservative you make it tougher for them to ever win elections by being associated with people like you. [/quote]I keep telling you all that he was a troll who went by the screen the Overfiend. One of his M.O.s is that he never posts an original thought or idea. He also is obsessed with dicks.[/quote]

I’m telling you Zecarlo, you really do noy know who he is. He is not this Overfiend you keep referring to.

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:
Instead of creating racist threads after being called out a million times c-dog has decided to become a drive by racist fairy. What’s going on in here, little discussion? Better sprinkle some racism in here! [/quote]

…isn’t it funny how liberals have no sense of humor?

you can make jokes about fat people, short people, people with short dicks, asians with short dicks, honkey, whitey, cracker, poor white trash, the south, Christians, conservatives, conservatives with short dicks but touch inside a liberal boundary and look who is so insecure with who they are?

liberals ruin every civilization on the face of the earth because of their one step thinking.

[/quote]

You’re fucking racist, the whole forum knows it, you get called out on it and then try and blame other people. You realize MOST of the people who have called you out on this site are conservatives? You realize you say liberal all the fucking time for no reason? You realize you’re an old, scared, piss-ant of a human who hates people because of the color of skin they were born with?

The problem with you isn’t anyone’s sense of humor, it’s with you. The problem with you isn’t liberals, it’s you. The problem with you isn’t black people, it’s you. Blaming one step thinking in a thread where everyone is debating something and the race fairy has to stop in. You make this place so much worse and if you’re truly a conservative you make it tougher for them to ever win elections by being associated with people like you. [/quote]I keep telling you all that he was a troll who went by the screen the Overfiend. One of his M.O.s is that he never posts an original thought or idea. He also is obsessed with dicks.[/quote]

I’m telling you Zecarlo, you really do noy know who he is. He is not this Overfiend you keep referring to.
[/quote]
I don’t know who he really is other than a troll who went by Overfiend.

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

I don’t know who he really is other than a troll who went by Overfiend. [/quote]

Ok.

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:
Instead of creating racist threads after being called out a million times c-dog has decided to become a drive by racist fairy. What’s going on in here, little discussion? Better sprinkle some racism in here! [/quote]

…isn’t it funny how liberals have no sense of humor?

you can make jokes about fat people, short people, people with short dicks, asians with short dicks, honkey, whitey, cracker, poor white trash, the south, Christians, conservatives, conservatives with short dicks but touch inside a liberal boundary and look who is so insecure with who they are?

liberals ruin every civilization on the face of the earth because of their one step thinking.

[/quote]

You’re fucking racist, the whole forum knows it, you get called out on it and then try and blame other people. You realize MOST of the people who have called you out on this site are conservatives? You realize you say liberal all the fucking time for no reason? You realize you’re an old, scared, piss-ant of a human who hates people because of the color of skin they were born with?

The problem with you isn’t anyone’s sense of humor, it’s with you. The problem with you isn’t liberals, it’s you. The problem with you isn’t black people, it’s you. Blaming one step thinking in a thread where everyone is debating something and the race fairy has to stop in. You make this place so much worse and if you’re truly a conservative you make it tougher for them to ever win elections by being associated with people like you. [/quote]I keep telling you all that he was a troll who went by the screen the Overfiend. One of his M.O.s is that he never posts an original thought or idea. He also is obsessed with dicks.[/quote]

I’m telling you Zecarlo, you really do noy know who he is. He is not this Overfiend you keep referring to.
[/quote]
I don’t know who he really is other than a troll who went by Overfiend. [/quote]

Is he or is he not Overfiend is irrelevant. He’s a cancer to debate, discussion, and rationality.

[quote]zecarlo wrote:
Why is it the most vocally anti-gay people seem the most “gay?” Look at that dude’s hair. The pink tie. The way he twirls his pencil. And why is he even holding a pencil? Does it have some symbolic value? [/quote]

Thanks Freud.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Does anyone actually fear homosexuals? Or is that just something people say to feel better?

I mean, how could anyone fear that another is attracted to the same sex? Makes zero sense.

Is that like the made up “war on women” bullshit?[/quote]

Yeah, well, a clinical phobia is an irrational terror of something, so “homophobia” does seem like somewhat of an overstatement, however homophobic people do seem to feel threatened by the very existence of homosexuality in society, as if the quality of their own lives and marriages is somehow degraded by other people choosing romantic and sexual partners from among members of their own gender. Whether their fears are justified is another matter. I can’t think of a case where a marriage failed because the people next door happened to be gay…unless the husband was sneaking over to have a tryst with one of the guys or something. [/quote]

I guess “fear” just seems like the wrong word. I get people “hate” homosexuals, I don’t understand why, but I know they do, and there is plenty in this world I don’t understand.

However, “fearing” a homosexual just seems silly…

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Never have felt the need to bring another one of “me” into this fucked up society we have.
The “dark ages” where primarily the result of “church indoctrination” and set back science about
a 1000 years. So yeah, why would I want to contribute to that which I do not believe in ?[/quote]

With all respect, you really need to learn what the hell you’re talking about when it comes to history. The dark ages were not the result of church indoctrination. In fact you could potentially argue the reverse: church indoctrination was the result of the collapse into the dark centuries of European history. I don’t think I would try it, but it is a more tenable position than the nonsense you just posted.[/quote]

I’d like to also note that while modern society in developed countries of the world is far, very far, from perfect, in most respects it is much less “fucked up” than it has been in the past.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Does anyone actually fear homosexuals? Or is that just something people say to feel better?

I mean, how could anyone fear that another is attracted to the same sex? Makes zero sense.

Is that like the made up “war on women” bullshit?[/quote]

Yeah, well, a clinical phobia is an irrational terror of something, so “homophobia” does seem like somewhat of an overstatement, however homophobic people do seem to feel threatened by the very existence of homosexuality in society, as if the quality of their own lives and marriages is somehow degraded by other people choosing romantic and sexual partners from among members of their own gender. Whether their fears are justified is another matter. I can’t think of a case where a marriage failed because the people next door happened to be gay…unless the husband was sneaking over to have a tryst with one of the guys or something. [/quote]

I guess “fear” just seems like the wrong word. I get people “hate” homosexuals, I don’t understand why, but I know they do, and there is plenty in this world I don’t understand.

However, “fearing” a homosexual just seems silly… [/quote]
We hate, what we fear. I think if you look at homophobia as fear of homosexuals you might find a problem with that as a “homophobe” might not fear individual gays however, if you look at homophobia as fear of homosexuality that is a different matter. Just listening to the anti-gay rhetoric it’s obvious it is all fear based. “What about the children!!!?”

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

We hate, what we fear. [/quote]

I disagree. I fear bats. I don’t hate them. They provide an invaluable service to humanity. I just prefer it be in other people’s yards & woods, and certainly not in my home.

Hate of another person, or group of persons because of their sexual preferences, or skin color or anything, is a product of ignorance and/or general intolerance for anything different than your own… At least from my observation.

I’ve never seen this born of fear however.

IDK, maybe I’m wrong here, but I’m not buying the “fear tha gayz” argument. Hate them? sure. Fear them? Nah, not so much.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

I disagree. I fear bats. I don’t hate them. [/quote]
Fear can exist without hate but hate can’t exist without fear. I’m talking about more of an ideological based hate. I mean, you can hate broccoli but that hate is different from hating someone because of their religion or race. Maybe I should refer to it as fear of the Other being the root of the hate for the Other.