Gay Rage

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

Churches should be allowed to allow gay marriage or not allow it in their halls. It should be entirely up to the church. The government has no business in it. [/quote]

I am glad we both agree with this, but it really is not a far stretch for the government for force it.

Why you say? Lets look at the ACA/Obamacare. They are forcing Religious Institutions to buy contraceptives for their employees. Not churches, but Religious Institutions. For Example Catholic Charities, Catholic Hospitals, and the like. It is against their dogma to allow contraceptives, but the government is forcing them to. Do you see why I am cautious about it?
[/quote]

What about businesses not hiring someone because they are Gay, or serving them in their restaurant? Do you think the government should force that?[/quote]

No.

This:

Is BS.

This:

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2013/September/Flower-Shop-Owner-Sued-for-Refusing-Gay-Wedding/

Is BS. [/quote]

Agreed.

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I really stopped giving a shit if people were homosexual circa 1987… I was 7.

I really, really don’t see wtf about it gets people so worked up. Including how upset people get when I try and explain why we as citizens shouldn’t see same sex marriage as “gay marriage”, to the point where they don’t even read my posts, just assume my position and argue from a position of ignorance…

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

Churches should be allowed to allow gay marriage or not allow it in their halls. It should be entirely up to the church. The government has no business in it. [/quote]

I am glad we both agree with this, but it really is not a far stretch for the government for force it.

Why you say? Lets look at the ACA/Obamacare. They are forcing Religious Institutions to buy contraceptives for their employees. Not churches, but Religious Institutions. For Example Catholic Charities, Catholic Hospitals, and the like. It is against their dogma to allow contraceptives, but the government is forcing them to. Do you see why I am cautious about it?
[/quote]

What about businesses not hiring someone because they are Gay, or serving them in their restaurant? Do you think the government should force that?[/quote]

No.

This:

Is BS.

This:

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2013/September/Flower-Shop-Owner-Sued-for-Refusing-Gay-Wedding/

Is BS. [/quote]

Do you have the same stance if it was race?

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Well, I’ll be honest, I like lesbian porn, so I do understand why people get worked up over that… :wink:

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Well, I’ll be honest, I like lesbian porn, so I do understand why people get worked up over that… ;)[/quote]

Hahaha

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[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Well, I’ll be honest, I like lesbian porn, so I do understand why people get worked up over that… ;)[/quote]

Hahaha[/quote]

I lol’d

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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

Churches should be allowed to allow gay marriage or not allow it in their halls. It should be entirely up to the church. The government has no business in it. [/quote]

I am glad we both agree with this, but it really is not a far stretch for the government for force it.

Why you say? Lets look at the ACA/Obamacare. They are forcing Religious Institutions to buy contraceptives for their employees. Not churches, but Religious Institutions. For Example Catholic Charities, Catholic Hospitals, and the like. It is against their dogma to allow contraceptives, but the government is forcing them to. Do you see why I am cautious about it?
[/quote]

What about businesses not hiring someone because they are Gay, or serving them in their restaurant? Do you think the government should force that?[/quote]

No.

This:

Is BS.

This:

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2013/September/Flower-Shop-Owner-Sued-for-Refusing-Gay-Wedding/

Is BS. [/quote]

Do you have the same stance if it was race?[/quote]

The only protected classes are based on Race, Religion, Age, Sex (Male or Female). Now if a business is forced to serve a Same Sex Couple you can step on Religion. The case of the Christian couple that own a bakery and do not want to make a cake for a same sex couple based on their Religion. The question is will the Government step all over the first amendment to force Religious Business Owners to cater to same sex couples. In a Free Market system people can vote with their money. If the people in this community want to buy their cakes somewhere else then they can and this business might go out of business. The government should not force this issue though.

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[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

Churches should be allowed to allow gay marriage or not allow it in their halls. It should be entirely up to the church. The government has no business in it. [/quote]

I am glad we both agree with this, but it really is not a far stretch for the government for force it.

Why you say? Lets look at the ACA/Obamacare. They are forcing Religious Institutions to buy contraceptives for their employees. Not churches, but Religious Institutions. For Example Catholic Charities, Catholic Hospitals, and the like. It is against their dogma to allow contraceptives, but the government is forcing them to. Do you see why I am cautious about it?
[/quote]

What about businesses not hiring someone because they are Gay, or serving them in their restaurant? Do you think the government should force that?[/quote]

No.

This:

Is BS.

This:

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2013/September/Flower-Shop-Owner-Sued-for-Refusing-Gay-Wedding/

Is BS. [/quote]

Do you have the same stance if it was race?[/quote]

The only protected classes are based on Race, Religion, Age, Sex (Male or Female). Now if a business is forced to serve a Same Sex Couple you can step on Religion. The case of the Christian couple that own a bakery and do not want to make a cake for a same sex couple based on their Religion. The question is will the Government step all over the first amendment to force Religious Business Owners to cater to same sex couples. In a Free Market system people can vote with their money. If the people in this community want to buy their cakes somewhere else then they can and this business might go out of business. The government should not force this issue though.
[/quote]

This could hurt heterosexuals and their relationships too, though.

Think of it: many Mississippi restaurants stop serving gays.

Gays leave Mississippi.

The Smiths, a newly-married heterosexual couple living in Jackson, buy a new house to start their life together.

They hire an interior decorator. One that isn’t gay (because no gays are left).

The interior decorator does a horrible job. (He isn’t gay.)

The stress of living in a visually repulsive environment is the back-breaking straw on the camel of their marriage.

He asks for a divorce.

She cuts his testicles off in the night.

And now this straight man has lost his testicles.

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[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

Churches should be allowed to allow gay marriage or not allow it in their halls. It should be entirely up to the church. The government has no business in it. [/quote]

I am glad we both agree with this, but it really is not a far stretch for the government for force it.

Why you say? Lets look at the ACA/Obamacare. They are forcing Religious Institutions to buy contraceptives for their employees. Not churches, but Religious Institutions. For Example Catholic Charities, Catholic Hospitals, and the like. It is against their dogma to allow contraceptives, but the government is forcing them to. Do you see why I am cautious about it?
[/quote]

What about businesses not hiring someone because they are Gay, or serving them in their restaurant? Do you think the government should force that?[/quote]

No.

This:

Is BS.

This:

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2013/September/Flower-Shop-Owner-Sued-for-Refusing-Gay-Wedding/

Is BS. [/quote]

Do you have the same stance if it was race?[/quote]

The only protected classes are based on Race, Religion, Age, Sex (Male or Female). Now if a business is forced to serve a Same Sex Couple you can step on Religion. The case of the Christian couple that own a bakery and do not want to make a cake for a same sex couple based on their Religion. The question is will the Government step all over the first amendment to force Religious Business Owners to cater to same sex couples. In a Free Market system people can vote with their money. If the people in this community want to buy their cakes somewhere else then they can and this business might go out of business. The government should not force this issue though.
[/quote]

So do you think gays should be added to that protected class? If not what is your reasoning? Assume the business owners are non-religious.

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[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

Churches should be allowed to allow gay marriage or not allow it in their halls. It should be entirely up to the church. The government has no business in it. [/quote]

I am glad we both agree with this, but it really is not a far stretch for the government for force it.

Why you say? Lets look at the ACA/Obamacare. They are forcing Religious Institutions to buy contraceptives for their employees. Not churches, but Religious Institutions. For Example Catholic Charities, Catholic Hospitals, and the like. It is against their dogma to allow contraceptives, but the government is forcing them to. Do you see why I am cautious about it?
[/quote]

What about businesses not hiring someone because they are Gay, or serving them in their restaurant? Do you think the government should force that?[/quote]

No.

This:

Is BS.

This:

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2013/September/Flower-Shop-Owner-Sued-for-Refusing-Gay-Wedding/

Is BS. [/quote]

Do you have the same stance if it was race?[/quote]

The only protected classes are based on Race, Religion, Age, Sex (Male or Female). Now if a business is forced to serve a Same Sex Couple you can step on Religion. The case of the Christian couple that own a bakery and do not want to make a cake for a same sex couple based on their Religion. The question is will the Government step all over the first amendment to force Religious Business Owners to cater to same sex couples. In a Free Market system people can vote with their money. If the people in this community want to buy their cakes somewhere else then they can and this business might go out of business. The government should not force this issue though.
[/quote]
The religion argument could also apply to sex and race…and other religions.

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[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:I also do not believe the government should force religious people to accept homosexuality as being ok or moral.
[/quote]

How does it? Allowing gay marriage is allowing equality of opportunity. Banning gay marriage is the government legislating morality. It’s forcing churches not to allow something even if they want to.

Churches should be allowed to allow gay marriage or not allow it in their halls. It should be entirely up to the church. The government has no business in it. And yet allowing gay marriage in a state is not forcing religious people to accept it in the least bit. The government cannot force something as moral anyways. If gambling is illegal and you view it as immoral, the government making it legal doesn’t force you to accept it as moral. [/quote]

Gay marriage has nothing to do with churches. Marriage is a civil contract and is officiated by the state. Whether or not the marriage is sanctified by a church in a ceremony called a wedding is entirely at the discretion of the church and should have nothing to do with the government. A Rabbi can’t be forced to perform a Jewish wedding for a non-Jew, a priest can’t be forced to perform a Catholic wedding for a Protestant, and an Imam can’t be forced to perform a Muslim wedding for a non-Muslim. Same principle.

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[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
gay jaugernut??? I quess there numbers would diminish becuase gay is a choice, and the gays will find Jesus and stop being gay… Makes sense I think there was a southpark episode about this…

Also is the world still flat?[/quote]

Of course it is. Has been for the last 6,000 years.[/quote]

…the only thing flat is you guys and yer sense of humor.

here’s a reference point**** the Department of Homeland Security purchased 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition. armored vehicles have been seen flowing through the streets, drones flying through the air… the expansion of the security industrial complex… For what? For what?

i guess it’s all intended to protect your “open minded” rights. go back to your slumber.

when your “enlightened” minds grasp what’s coming down the road you will shit your pants like four year olds. why do i say that? because it is predicted that men will faint in that day and not by anyone who said the world was flat.

whoever falsely believes that the Bible supported or claimed the earth is flat should do some homework. darwinists tried to discredit the Bible by putting this myth forward.

Isaiah 40:22 says God sits above “the circle of the earth” (the Hebrew word for “circle” can also mean a “sphere”).

read you enlightened worshipers of turds: Who invented the idea of a flat Earth? - ChristianAnswers.Net

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:
I just get sick of their whining. They are the whiniest people.
I do agree that their agenda is not acceptance or rights, it’s to shove that life-style down people’s throats and make them choke on it. If you don’t agree with their lifestyle choices you must be destroyed. It’s become militant. [/quote]

I don’t know man.

Of all the things that a stranger can see and/or find out about you, “I’m gay” is the “worst” in contemporary America. I mean other than “I’m a murderer” and the like.[/quote]

Nah.

It’s more nuanced than that. The most distrusted figures in contempory America, in order of “worstness”:

  1. Serial killer
  2. Child molester
  3. Serial rapist
  4. Atheist
  5. Homosexual
  6. Liberal
  7. Intellectual

Obviously, any combination of five of these attributes would send you right up to the top of the worstness scale.
[/quote]

Is that list worst to least, least to worst, or are they so close as to be indiscernible?

I know a good many liberals, couple of intellectuals, a good handful of homosexuals, and one serial child molester. The last one is the only one that I’d really like to sadistically murder though. The rest are pretty cool.
[/quote]

that’s pretty funny

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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

Churches should be allowed to allow gay marriage or not allow it in their halls. It should be entirely up to the church. The government has no business in it. [/quote]

I am glad we both agree with this, but it really is not a far stretch for the government for force it.

Why you say? Lets look at the ACA/Obamacare. They are forcing Religious Institutions to buy contraceptives for their employees. Not churches, but Religious Institutions. For Example Catholic Charities, Catholic Hospitals, and the like. It is against their dogma to allow contraceptives, but the government is forcing them to. Do you see why I am cautious about it?
[/quote]

What about businesses not hiring someone because they are Gay, or serving them in their restaurant? Do you think the government should force that?[/quote]

No.

This:

Is BS.

This:

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2013/September/Flower-Shop-Owner-Sued-for-Refusing-Gay-Wedding/

Is BS. [/quote]

Do you have the same stance if it was race?[/quote]

In 2013, yes I feel the same way. If some racist asshole wants to serve only neo nazi kkk members, in this free United States, her or she aught to be able to do that without the governments permission. Then we The people, via the free market, can laugh while said asshole goes out of business.

The gov isn’t needed for every single thing.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

In 2013, yes I feel the same way. If some racist asshole wants to serve only neo nazi kkk members, in this free United States, her or she aught to be able to do that without the governments permission. Then we The people, via the free market, can laugh while said asshole goes out of business.

The gov isn’t needed for every single thing. [/quote]

no the government is only needed to shore up liberal ideas.

affirmative action. abortion clinics. state run thought control education. media that promotes liberalism such as PBS.

the free market wasn’t allowed to do it’s thing or all of those would not exist.

vote liberal democrat and get free shit. that is the only reason they are in power now. there are finally more people that want free shit instead of working.

the problem is, it isn’t the liberal governments to give away. the liberal government takes it away from disciplined tough people that MAKE THEMSELVES invent new ideas that people want or need.

our greatest weakness lies in giving up. the most certain way to succeed is to try just one more time.

what you are will show in what you do.

your worth consists in what you are and not in what you have.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

Churches should be allowed to allow gay marriage or not allow it in their halls. It should be entirely up to the church. The government has no business in it. [/quote]

I am glad we both agree with this, but it really is not a far stretch for the government for force it.

Why you say? Lets look at the ACA/Obamacare. They are forcing Religious Institutions to buy contraceptives for their employees. Not churches, but Religious Institutions. For Example Catholic Charities, Catholic Hospitals, and the like. It is against their dogma to allow contraceptives, but the government is forcing them to. Do you see why I am cautious about it?
[/quote]

What about businesses not hiring someone because they are Gay, or serving them in their restaurant? Do you think the government should force that?[/quote]

No.

This:

Is BS.

This:

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2013/September/Flower-Shop-Owner-Sued-for-Refusing-Gay-Wedding/

Is BS. [/quote]

Do you have the same stance if it was race?[/quote]

In 2013, yes I feel the same way. If some racist asshole wants to serve only neo nazi kkk members, in this free United States, her or she aught to be able to do that without the governments permission. Then we The people, via the free market, can laugh while said asshole goes out of business.

The gov isn’t needed for every single thing. [/quote]

Agreed.

You can’t tell people how to think.

That kind of thing had its utility in the middle of the 20th century, but in this world, such a business would go under almost immediately, outside of a few rural towns in the deep south.

So let it all work out that way.

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:
here’s a reference point**** the Department of Homeland Security purchased 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition. armored vehicles have been seen flowing through the streets, drones flying through the air… the expansion of the security industrial complex… For what? For what?

i guess it’s all intended to protect your “open minded” rights. go back to your slumber.

when your “enlightened” minds grasp what’s coming down the road you will shit your pants like four year olds. why do i say that? because it is predicted that men will faint in that day and not by anyone who said the world was flat.

[/quote]
I see the Overfiend hasn’t stopped with the shadow government/Illuminati/apocalyptic/doomsday talk.

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:
our greatest weakness lies in giving up. the most certain way to succeed is to try just one more time.

what you are will show in what you do.

your worth consists in what you are and not in what you have.

[/quote]
Are you going for corny or cryptic?

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[quote]smh_23 wrote:
Agreed.

You can’t tell people how to think.

That kind of thing had its utility in the middle of the 20th century, but in this world, such a business would go under almost immediately, outside of a few rural towns in the deep south.

So let it all work out that way.[/quote]

Absolutely.

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[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]conservativedog wrote:
our greatest weakness lies in giving up. the most certain way to succeed is to try just one more time.

what you are will show in what you do.

your worth consists in what you are and not in what you have.

[/quote]
Are you going for corny or cryptic? [/quote]

corny or cryptic??

those are thomas edison qoutes.

go worship your buddy’s turds since you waste everyone’s time here with your observations.