Gay Divorce 40% More Retarded Than Gay Marriage.

Off Topic Politics and World Issues
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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Kebvin wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
It’s not heterosxuals who have on average 100 sexual partners prior to marriage.[/quote]

Challenge! I’ve seen you claim this and many other things that are similar before but you never provide your reliable unbiased source. you say the CDC will back that up but I think we all know it isn’t their study even if they use it as a source.

The few gay people I know are all committed to monogamy and have relationships similar in length to heterosexuals. I know one gay couple that is getting divorced after a 15 year long relationship… they’ve lasted longer than many many heterosexuals. And that’s the only partner one of them (maybe both) has ever had…[/quote]

You have probably not seen the many statistics that I’ve provided because when forlife and I battled for probably 30 pages you were in high school and were not yet aware of T Nation (or not).

Either way, I’d be glad to post the volume of statistics from many reliable sources including the CDC. But I will do so only under the condition that you promise this will not be another lengthy post battle…which of course proves nothing and convinces no one (welcome to T Nation). So, what’s it going to be? If you really want to read the truth and are not in this to carry it on and on, I’ll repost the many stats that I’ve posted so very many times.

Up to you pal my life is good either way :)[/quote]

You argued with someone over something that’s none of your business for 30 pages? I take it you don’t have any sex. You are a loser and prolly a homo yourself, the closet is full of guys like you who are confused and angry about what they are.

Of course you’ve never seen a gym from the inside either. Everything about you is ugly. Your soul is garbage. I wish only the worst upon you.

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[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Kebvin wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
It’s not heterosxuals who have on average 100 sexual partners prior to marriage.[/quote]

Challenge! I’ve seen you claim this and many other things that are similar before but you never provide your reliable unbiased source. you say the CDC will back that up but I think we all know it isn’t their study even if they use it as a source.

The few gay people I know are all committed to monogamy and have relationships similar in length to heterosexuals. I know one gay couple that is getting divorced after a 15 year long relationship… they’ve lasted longer than many many heterosexuals. And that’s the only partner one of them (maybe both) has ever had…[/quote]

You have probably not seen the many statistics that I’ve provided because when forlife and I battled for probably 30 pages you were in high school and were not yet aware of T Nation (or not).

Either way, I’d be glad to post the volume of statistics from many reliable sources including the CDC. But I will do so only under the condition that you promise this will not be another lengthy post battle…which of course proves nothing and convinces no one (welcome to T Nation). So, what’s it going to be? If you really want to read the truth and are not in this to carry it on and on, I’ll repost the many stats that I’ve posted so very many times.

Up to you pal my life is good either way :)[/quote]

You argued with someone over something that’s none of your business for 30 pages? I take it you don’t have any sex. You are a loser and prolly a homo yourself, the closet is full of guys like you who are confused and angry about what they are.

Of course you’ve never seen a gym from the inside either. Everything about you is ugly. Your soul is garbage. I wish only the worst upon you.[/quote]

Good argument, brah.

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We can’t say that homosexual men don’t lead the way in many things. Unfortunately, they’re all bad.

Keep in mind that gay men represent only 2% (or so) of the population.

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This link speaks directly to the fact that about 50% of all new HIV cases are from Homosexual men.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm

Darn those religious right wing conservative liars at the CDC! Oh wait…no their not.

There are many, many more reliable web sites which speak directly to the problem of homosexual promiscuity and risky behavior. They mostly echo what the CDC site tells us.

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[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:

You argued with someone over something that’s none of your business for 30 pages?[/quote]

When society begins to change for the worse, and people are dying and suffering from the dangers of risky homosexual behavior it is every responsible citizens business. Have you ever seen a close friend or relative suffer and die with AIDS? While I have and it’s not at all pretty.

And this is the type of people that you deal with when you lower the veil of deciet and show the facts. Another politically correct liberal who only knows how to hate.

You’re a sad one.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Kebvin wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
It’s not heterosxuals who have on average 100 sexual partners prior to marriage.[/quote]

Challenge! I’ve seen you claim this and many other things that are similar before but you never provide your reliable unbiased source. you say the CDC will back that up but I think we all know it isn’t their study even if they use it as a source.

The few gay people I know are all committed to monogamy and have relationships similar in length to heterosexuals. I know one gay couple that is getting divorced after a 15 year long relationship… they’ve lasted longer than many many heterosexuals. And that’s the only partner one of them (maybe both) has ever had…[/quote]

You have probably not seen the many statistics that I’ve provided because when forlife and I battled for probably 30 pages you were in high school and were not yet aware of T Nation (or not).

Either way, I’d be glad to post the volume of statistics from many reliable sources including the CDC. But I will do so only under the condition that you promise this will not be another lengthy post battle…which of course proves nothing and convinces no one (welcome to T Nation). So, what’s it going to be? If you really want to read the truth and are not in this to carry it on and on, I’ll repost the many stats that I’ve posted so very many times.

Up to you pal my life is good either way :)[/quote]

You argued with someone over something that’s none of your business for 30 pages? I take it you don’t have any sex. You are a loser and prolly a homo yourself, the closet is full of guys like you who are confused and angry about what they are.

Of course you’ve never seen a gym from the inside either. Everything about you is ugly. Your soul is garbage. I wish only the worst upon you.[/quote]

Good argument, brah.[/quote]

He’s only 22 and God only knows where he’s from and what he’s been fed all these years. But, he is somewhat representational of that generation. Many of them think that since it doesn’t effect them directly that it will never effect in a negative way indirectly. Driving up health care costs alone should get their attention. But then again we do live in a time where no one should ever tell anyone else that they are w r o n g about anything. Of course we all know where this will end don’t we?

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:

You argued with someone over something that’s none of your business for 30 pages?[/quote]

When society begins to change for the worse, and people are dying and suffering from the dangers of risky homosexual behavior it is every responsible citizens business. Have you ever seen a close friend or relative suffer and die with AIDS? While I have and it’s not at all pretty.

And this is the type of people that you deal with when you lower the veil of deciet and show the facts. Another politically correct liberal who only knows how to hate.

You’re a sad one.
[/quote]

Implying I’m actually “liberal”. Maybe I’m just not such as homophobe as you are.

What is your suggestion then, stop telling gay men to be gay? And pssst… Why is it only ever about gay men and not women, huh? Seems like the closeted guys are the only ones who have such a stick up the ass about what others are doing in the bedroom.

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[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:

You argued with someone over something that’s none of your business for 30 pages?[/quote]

When society begins to change for the worse, and people are dying and suffering from the dangers of risky homosexual behavior it is every responsible citizens business. Have you ever seen a close friend or relative suffer and die with AIDS? While I have and it’s not at all pretty.

And this is the type of people that you deal with when you lower the veil of deciet and show the facts. Another politically correct liberal who only knows how to hate.

You’re a sad one.
[/quote]

Implying I’m actually “liberal”. Maybe I’m just not such as homophobe as you are.[/quote]

I posted stats from the CDC on homosexuals and you call me a homophobe. Are they homophobic for gathering such statistics? It could be that I am what I say I am, a concerned citizen. But, in your tiny little world of black and white, if I am not pro gay, or I don’t shut up then I’m a baaaaaaaaad man. Ha ha…you nut.

The majority of the homosexual population could at least begin with safe sex. But…they won’t even do that much. They want what they want when they want it the way they want it with NO regard for the spread of disease. You don’t understand that? No, come on really you have to be able to understand that is wrong. I don’t care how young or stupid you are you have to understand that much.

Yes, and when I say I hate broccoli what I really mean is that I love it (eye roll). Junior…don’t waste my time with these cliche’s.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:

You argued with someone over something that’s none of your business for 30 pages?[/quote]

When society begins to change for the worse, and people are dying and suffering from the dangers of risky homosexual behavior it is every responsible citizens business. Have you ever seen a close friend or relative suffer and die with AIDS? While I have and it’s not at all pretty.

And this is the type of people that you deal with when you lower the veil of deciet and show the facts. Another politically correct liberal who only knows how to hate.

You’re a sad one.
[/quote]

Implying I’m actually “liberal”. Maybe I’m just not such as homophobe as you are.[/quote]

I posted stats from the CDC on homosexuals and you call me a homophobe. Are they homophobic for gathering such statistics? It could be that I am what I say I am, a concerned citizen. But, in your tiny little world of black and white, if I am not pro gay, or I don’t shut up then I’m a baaaaaaaaad man. Ha ha…you nut.

The majority of the homosexual population could at least begin with safe sex. But…they won’t even do that much. They want what they want when they want it the way they want it with NO regard for the spread of disease. You don’t understand that? No, come on really you have to be able to understand that is wrong. I don’t care how young or stupid you are you have to understand that much.

Yes, and when I say I hate broccoli what I really mean is that I love it (eye roll). Junior…don’t waste my time with these cliche’s.[/quote]

A concerned citizen, yeah right… So let’s assume for one second that you are not a closeted homosexual (which you clearly are). Why does the spread of STD’s amongst gay men bother you? It’s not like you’re planning to have sex with them… Or are you?
Is it the case that gay men run around raping people up the ass? Like, you’re standing, drawing money from the ATM and-Goddammit, I just got fucked in the ass! No? Then what do you care, sunshine?

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[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:
So let’s assume for one second that you are not a closeted homosexual (which you clearly are).
[/quote]

So if he’s a closet homo, does that make you a closet hetero?

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[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:

You argued with someone over something that’s none of your business for 30 pages?[/quote]

When society begins to change for the worse, and people are dying and suffering from the dangers of risky homosexual behavior it is every responsible citizens business. Have you ever seen a close friend or relative suffer and die with AIDS? While I have and it’s not at all pretty.

And this is the type of people that you deal with when you lower the veil of deciet and show the facts. Another politically correct liberal who only knows how to hate.

You’re a sad one.
[/quote]

Implying I’m actually “liberal”. Maybe I’m just not such as homophobe as you are.

What is your suggestion then, stop telling gay men to be gay? And pssst… Why is it only ever about gay men and not women, huh? Seems like the closeted guys are the only ones who have such a stick up the ass about what others are doing in the bedroom. [/quote]

It’s the same clown tactics you always see from Zeb. He cherry picks the health statistics, but ignores what the CDC actually says about those statistics and HOW TO IMPROVE THEM. Don’t bother talking with him, it’s a waste of your time.

The CDC concludes that the solution is NOT for gays to change their orientation, but for society to accept gays and encourage them to have productive, healthy same sex relationships.

You will never hear the bigots acknowledge this from the CDC, or from any of the other health organizations. They only talk about health statistics, and refuse to listen to the health organizations on what is the actual SOLUTION TO IMPROVING THOSE STATISTICS.

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[quote]forlife wrote:

The CDC concludes that the solution is NOT for gays to change their orientation, but for society to accept gays and encourage them to have productive, healthy same sex relationships.

[/quote]

Oh, I get it! It’s society’s fault that gays are promiscuous, spread diseases and have drug, alcohol and mental health problems. And it’s society’s job to fix these problems by logical extension due to the collective guilt of non-homosexuals within society. And society needs to ‘encourage’ homosexuals’ ‘healthy same sex relationships’? The healthy relationships that spread diseases…right-o.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:

The CDC concludes that the solution is NOT for gays to change their orientation, but for society to accept gays and encourage them to have productive, healthy same sex relationships.

[/quote]

Oh, I get it! It’s society’s fault that gays are promiscuous, spread diseases and have drug, alcohol and mental health problems. And it’s society’s job to fix these problems by logical extension due to the collective guilt of non-homosexuals within society. And society needs to ‘encourage’ homosexuals’ ‘healthy same sex relationships’? The healthy relationships that spread diseases…right-o.
[/quote]

Did you read the research that the CDC posted? Do you care about the actual facts, or are you too bigoted to listen?

Directly from the CDC:

[quote]The researchers found that those who experienced stronger rejection were:

  • 8.4 times more likely to have tried to commit suicide

  • 5.9 times more likely to report high levels of depression

  • 3.4 times more likely to use illegal drugs

  • 3.4 times more likely to have risky sex[/quote]

What about that is so hard to understand? When gays are accepted and encouraged to be in healthy, productive same sex relationships they are at MUCH LOWER RISK FOR SUICIDE, DEPRESSION, DRUG ABUSE AND RISKY SEX.

Open your mind, and listen to the health organizations, instead of pushing people into snake oil solutions that only hurt them further.

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[quote]forlife wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:

The CDC concludes that the solution is NOT for gays to change their orientation, but for society to accept gays and encourage them to have productive, healthy same sex relationships.

[/quote]

Oh, I get it! It’s society’s fault that gays are promiscuous, spread diseases and have drug, alcohol and mental health problems. And it’s society’s job to fix these problems by logical extension due to the collective guilt of non-homosexuals within society. And society needs to ‘encourage’ homosexuals’ ‘healthy same sex relationships’? The healthy relationships that spread diseases…right-o.
[/quote]

Did you read the research that the CDC posted? Do you care about the actual facts, or are you too bigoted to listen?

Directly from the CDC:

[quote]The researchers found that those who experienced stronger rejection were:

  • 8.4 times more likely to have tried to commit suicide

  • 5.9 times more likely to report high levels of depression

  • 3.4 times more likely to use illegal drugs

  • 3.4 times more likely to have risky sex[/quote]

What about that is so hard to understand? When gays are accepted and encouraged to be in healthy, productive same sex relationships they are at MUCH LOWER RISK FOR SUICIDE, DEPRESSION, DRUG ABUSE AND RISKY SEX.

Open your mind, and listen to the health organizations, instead of pushing people into snake oil solutions that only hurt them further.[/quote]

Try to remember; I’m not an advocate for the ‘gay cure’. I’m the coat of arms policeman with account problems. If I was inclined I’d look at how the CDC measured the level of ‘rejection’ and how they came up with these stats. However I’m not inclined. I’m also not bigoted. Live your life however you want but don’t ask me to endorse it, don’t push some nutty agenda into the education system or try to destroy the sacred institution of marriage.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:

The CDC concludes that the solution is NOT for gays to change their orientation, but for society to accept gays and encourage them to have productive, healthy same sex relationships.

[/quote]

Oh, I get it! It’s society’s fault that gays are promiscuous, spread diseases and have drug, alcohol and mental health problems. And it’s society’s job to fix these problems by logical extension due to the collective guilt of non-homosexuals within society. And society needs to ‘encourage’ homosexuals’ ‘healthy same sex relationships’? The healthy relationships that spread diseases…right-o.
[/quote]

Did you read the research that the CDC posted? Do you care about the actual facts, or are you too bigoted to listen?

Directly from the CDC:

[quote]The researchers found that those who experienced stronger rejection were:

  • 8.4 times more likely to have tried to commit suicide

  • 5.9 times more likely to report high levels of depression

  • 3.4 times more likely to use illegal drugs

  • 3.4 times more likely to have risky sex[/quote]

What about that is so hard to understand? When gays are accepted and encouraged to be in healthy, productive same sex relationships they are at MUCH LOWER RISK FOR SUICIDE, DEPRESSION, DRUG ABUSE AND RISKY SEX.

Open your mind, and listen to the health organizations, instead of pushing people into snake oil solutions that only hurt them further.[/quote]

Try to remember; I’m not an advocate for the ‘gay cure’. I’m the coat of arms policeman with account problems. If I was inclined I’d look at how the CDC measured the level of ‘rejection’ and how they came up with these stats. However I’m not inclined. I’m also not bigoted. Live your life however you want but don’t ask me to endorse it, don’t push some nutty agenda into the education system or try to destroy the sacred institution of marriage.[/quote]

Your sarcasm insinuated that negative attitudes toward homosexuality in society don’t negatively impact gays. The CDC, and every other major health organization, says you’re wrong, based on 35 years of research on homosexuality.

Societal rejection does negatively impact gays, and is directly linked to much higher rates of suicide, depression, drug abuse, and risky sex.

You claim you’re not bigoted, yet you support perpetuating the societal factors that contribute to these negative health outcomes for gays. The health organizations realize that the solution is to foster a society that celebrates healthy same sex relationships, rather than a society that “refuses to endorse homosexuality”, that considers education on gay history (as opposed to black history, women’s history, etc.) to be a “nutty agenda”, or that claims gay marriage would “destroy the sacred institution of marriage”.

If you really want to make a positive difference, listen to the health organizations instead of perpetuating false stereotypes.

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[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:

You argued with someone over something that’s none of your business for 30 pages?[/quote]

When society begins to change for the worse, and people are dying and suffering from the dangers of risky homosexual behavior it is every responsible citizens business. Have you ever seen a close friend or relative suffer and die with AIDS? While I have and it’s not at all pretty.

And this is the type of people that you deal with when you lower the veil of deciet and show the facts. Another politically correct liberal who only knows how to hate.

You’re a sad one.
[/quote]

Implying I’m actually “liberal”. Maybe I’m just not such as homophobe as you are.[/quote]

I posted stats from the CDC on homosexuals and you call me a homophobe. Are they homophobic for gathering such statistics? It could be that I am what I say I am, a concerned citizen. But, in your tiny little world of black and white, if I am not pro gay, or I don’t shut up then I’m a baaaaaaaaad man. Ha ha…you nut.

The majority of the homosexual population could at least begin with safe sex. But…they won’t even do that much. They want what they want when they want it the way they want it with NO regard for the spread of disease. You don’t understand that? No, come on really you have to be able to understand that is wrong. I don’t care how young or stupid you are you have to understand that much.

Yes, and when I say I hate broccoli what I really mean is that I love it (eye roll). Junior…don’t waste my time with these cliche’s.[/quote]

A concerned citizen, yeah right… So let’s assume for one second that you are not a closeted homosexual (which you clearly are). Why does the spread of STD’s amongst gay men bother you? It’s not like you’re planning to have sex with them… Or are you?
Is it the case that gay men run around raping people up the ass? Like, you’re standing, drawing money from the ATM and-Goddammit, I just got fucked in the ass! No? Then what do you care, sunshine?

[/quote]

You cannot understand that some people are for traditional values and care about the kind of society that they raise their children in? Well…I guess not. When the best argument that you have is to accuse someone who disagrees with homosexual marriage a closet homosexual you got nothin kid! You’re just An empty headed little twerp. I’m done with you.

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[quote]forlife wrote:

[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:

You argued with someone over something that’s none of your business for 30 pages?[/quote]

When society begins to change for the worse, and people are dying and suffering from the dangers of risky homosexual behavior it is every responsible citizens business. Have you ever seen a close friend or relative suffer and die with AIDS? While I have and it’s not at all pretty.

And this is the type of people that you deal with when you lower the veil of deciet and show the facts. Another politically correct liberal who only knows how to hate.

You’re a sad one.
[/quote]

Implying I’m actually “liberal”. Maybe I’m just not such as homophobe as you are.

What is your suggestion then, stop telling gay men to be gay? And pssst… Why is it only ever about gay men and not women, huh? Seems like the closeted guys are the only ones who have such a stick up the ass about what others are doing in the bedroom. [/quote]

It’s the same clown tactics you always see from Zeb. He cherry picks the health statistics, but ignores what the CDC actually says about those statistics and HOW TO IMPROVE THEM. Don’t bother talking with him, it’s a waste of your time.[/quote]

Cherry pick do I? Okay, forliar I challenge you to find ONE statistic that is positive regarding homosexual health. And it can’t be that some STD in the gay community went down a percent (while 6 others go up). Seriously, give me ONE tiny little statistic which demonstrates that homosexual men are the epitome of health.

We are all waiting forlife.

DO IT OR SHUT UP!

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[quote]forlife wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:

The CDC concludes that the solution is NOT for gays to change their orientation, but for society to accept gays and encourage them to have productive, healthy same sex relationships.

[/quote]

Oh, I get it! It’s society’s fault that gays are promiscuous, spread diseases and have drug, alcohol and mental health problems. And it’s society’s job to fix these problems by logical extension due to the collective guilt of non-homosexuals within society. And society needs to ‘encourage’ homosexuals’ ‘healthy same sex relationships’? The healthy relationships that spread diseases…right-o.
[/quote]

Did you read the research that the CDC posted? Do you care about the actual facts, or are you too bigoted to listen?

Directly from the CDC:

[quote]The researchers found that those who experienced stronger rejection were:

  • 8.4 times more likely to have tried to commit suicide

  • 5.9 times more likely to report high levels of depression

  • 3.4 times more likely to use illegal drugs

  • 3.4 times more likely to have risky sex[/quote]

What about that is so hard to understand? When gays are accepted and encouraged to be in healthy, productive same sex relationships they are at MUCH LOWER RISK FOR SUICIDE, DEPRESSION, DRUG ABUSE AND RISKY SEX.

Open your mind, and listen to the health organizations, instead of pushing people into snake oil solutions that only hurt them further.[/quote]

You really earned your nickname this time around forliar.

In the Netherlands where gay marriage has been legal for 10 years and homosexuality is well accepted the rate of depression, anxiety and suicide still remains high. And why is that?

[quote] Saghir and Robins (1978) examined reasons for suicide attempts among homosexuals and found that if the reasons for the attempt were connected with homosexuality, about 2/3 were due to breakups of relationships -not outside pressures from society.
Similarly, Bell and Weinberg (1981) also found the major reason for suicide attempts was the breakup of relationships. In second place, they said, was the inability to accept oneself. Since homosexuals have greater numbers of partners and breakups, compared with heterosexuals, and since longterm gay male relationships are rarely monagamous, it is hardly surprising if suicide attempts are proportionally greater. The median number of partners for homosexuals is four times higher than for heterosexuals (Whitehead and Whitehead 1999, calculated from Laumann et al 1994).[/quote]

The facts are clear. It’s the lifestyle that many homosexual men choose which harms their mental health. Unless forlife is trying to tell us all that trying to pick up strange men at a bus station at 2 am is something that builds good mental health. And that having 25 new partners every few months is healthy.

If gay marriage is supposed to be the saving grace for homosexuals then why hasn’t it worked in the Netherlands?

The facts are in forlife, you may not like them but THEY ARE IN!

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The first gay couple to be married in NY. Just imagine the danger to society!!!

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:

The CDC concludes that the solution is NOT for gays to change their orientation, but for society to accept gays and encourage them to have productive, healthy same sex relationships.

[/quote]

Oh, I get it! It’s society’s fault that gays are promiscuous, spread diseases and have drug, alcohol and mental health problems. And it’s society’s job to fix these problems by logical extension due to the collective guilt of non-homosexuals within society. And society needs to ‘encourage’ homosexuals’ ‘healthy same sex relationships’? The healthy relationships that spread diseases…right-o.
[/quote]

Many issues like drug, alcohol and mental problems arise from problems with society and integration. Sex and relationships are core to human nature and when they are compromised, it backlashes into the psychological health. It’s all logical until here, no?

Now, if society, which includes you and me, were more open minded towards homosexuals and not so intrusive (why do you care so much where they stick their penises or which vaginas they lick?), those mental problems would drastically decrease, 100% guaranteed.

Let’s imagine that 5% of people are homosexual (random number, I think it’s closer to 10%). From that we would guess that one every twenty couples would be homosexual. How many men do you see holding hands? Sharing affection in public? I’m talking about normals days, not gay pride, or whatever. Close to zero. Why? Because people will look at them, judge them, even some insult them.

Do you think this does any good to your mental health?

So yes, society has to do its job and it’s about tolerance. Do you care if the heterosexual couple that is behind you in the grocery queue is into S&M? I’m willing to bet that NO. Mostly, because it’s not your business.

Live and let live.