Game of Thrones Season 3

[quote]Chilliwack wrote:
I know I should have given up on the Starks being the “good guys” a long time ago, but GRRM keeps giving us hope.

After Ned is executed, we’re left going “Damn! Who on earth is going to avenge his death, and kick Joffrey’s ass?” Then Robb gets a level-up from teenage boy to King in the North, and marches South to take care of that shit.

Now that Robb and Cat are dead and Winterfell has been burned, we’re all left feeling like the protagonist family is pretty much fucked, with no hope of revenge, or even rebuilding.

The good news is that I’ve noticed a trend. Whenever a Stark dies, the rest of the family gets a boost. I cited the Robb example above, and now, here are a few more:

Bran has gone from having wet dreams about being a wolf to controlling conscious human beings - simple headed ones, but he’s done something no one else has done before. As far as I can tell, he’s the rightful ruler of the North right now, and once he gains full control of his ability, he’ll be a force to be Rickoned with.

Sansa went from being completely useless to being married into the Lannister family. She may not have much sway with Tyrion, but as the most reasonable of that lot, and the one with the intentions of the realm most at heart, his political agenda is nearest to hers. He himself carries little influence with his family, but Sansa’s subtle influence on Tyrion will affect his subtle influence with is family, which could snowball into big actions.

Aria has now seen some shit. She went from being a tomboy to being a tombadass. Now she’s rollin’ with the Hound, talking shit about putting needles in his eyes, has an assassin under her employ, and has been surviving since her father’s death.

Rickon is still a useless tit, but he’s learned how to speak, which I guess is a step, and he’s going to foster with that family that’s going to make him into the next Robb.

All this to say don’t write the Starks off yet - be patient. As sports fans would say, they’re rebuilding the franchise.

[I’ve only read the first two books, so if I’ve disclosed or hinted at something, I ain’t spoiled shit, I’m just a fucking genius][/quote]

I’m glad you put that disclaimer at the end of your analysis there … i was going to say “So I take it you haven’t read the books then…”

Yea, likewise. Oh and polo I meant to respond to your post about Selmy being old.

SPOILERs (slight ones) below if you haven’t read the book.

In Selmy’s fight with (Kragas?) the bodyguard to Dany’s husband, didn’t he pretty much walk through him? I realize that guy was a cage fighter and not a soldier and all, but Selmy seems like he’s still got it. I do agree with you, that we will see him doing some awesome shit as a battle leader.

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]zenontheterrible wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
Am I the only one who feels like George Martin is less of a dark, gritty fantasy writer with realistic characters in no-bullshit dire situations and more of just a massive troll who deliberately writes awesome characters just so he can kill them horribly in front of his readers?[/quote]

No i agree with that completely. The books only further re-enforce this viewpoint. [/quote]
Yeah. Don’t get me wrong, I love his work. It just seems like he’s gone well beyond the realm of dark realism to the point where one has to think he must just get off at creating something people will love and then destroying it in front of them on a whim. I think he enjoys wielding the power.[/quote]
tbh I was all on GRRM’s nuts after reading all five books. But now that I’ve started to read other fantasy books I’m starting to agree with your sentiment. I’m actually more interested now in Malazan Book of the Fallen.

Oh Snap! Season Finale tonight Kick assess!!!

Don’t spoil it!! Even though I’ve read teh books don’t spoil it hahaha!

Literally, the only show on HBO that I care about but my HBO Go says I’m not subscribed anymore so I have no way to watch. Any links to where else to view?

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
Don’t spoil it!! Even though I’ve read teh books don’t spoil it hahaha!

Literally, the only show on HBO that I care about but my HBO Go says I’m not subscribed anymore so I have no way to watch. Any links to where else to view?[/quote]

Bittorrent, download.

Dear HBO, I would totally get your channel, but you wont let me.

So I kind of have to steal from you.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
Don’t spoil it!! Even though I’ve read teh books don’t spoil it hahaha!

Literally, the only show on HBO that I care about but my HBO Go says I’m not subscribed anymore so I have no way to watch. Any links to where else to view?[/quote]

Bittorrent, download.

Dear HBO, I would totally get your channel, but you wont let me.

So I kind of have to steal from you.

[/quote]

Trust me. No real rush to see the finally. It was ok

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
Don’t spoil it!! Even though I’ve read teh books don’t spoil it hahaha!

Literally, the only show on HBO that I care about but my HBO Go says I’m not subscribed anymore so I have no way to watch. Any links to where else to view?[/quote]

Bittorrent, download.

Dear HBO, I would totally get your channel, but you wont let me.

So I kind of have to steal from you.

[/quote]

Trust me. No real rush to see the finally. It was ok[/quote]

I feel like you might be bi-polar.

[quote]four60 wrote:
Oh Snap! Season Finale tonight Kick assess!!! [/quote]

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
Don’t spoil it!! Even though I’ve read teh books don’t spoil it hahaha!

Literally, the only show on HBO that I care about but my HBO Go says I’m not subscribed anymore so I have no way to watch. Any links to where else to view?[/quote]

Bittorrent, download.

Dear HBO, I would totally get your channel, but you wont let me.

So I kind of have to steal from you.

[/quote]

Trust me. No real rush to see the finally. It was ok[/quote]

I feel like you might be bi-polar.

[quote]four60 wrote:

Oh Snap! Season Finale tonight Kick assess!!! [/quote]
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You met me you know I am. But you got that post backwards. I was excited to see the show…then I after watching it was like umm ok, that was ok I guess

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
Don’t spoil it!! Even though I’ve read teh books don’t spoil it hahaha!

Literally, the only show on HBO that I care about but my HBO Go says I’m not subscribed anymore so I have no way to watch. Any links to where else to view?[/quote]

Bittorrent, download.

Dear HBO, I would totally get your channel, but you wont let me.

So I kind of have to steal from you.

[/quote]

Trust me. No real rush to see the finally. It was ok[/quote]

I feel like you might be bi-polar.

[quote]four60 wrote:
Oh Snap! Season Finale tonight Kick assess!!! [/quote]

Well I’m schizo b/c both of my personalities decided to post the same thing. At least they can agree on something.

I need to get back to finishing this 4th book. I’ll try and do it this week

I didn’t even realize last night’s episode was the season finale. It was just like a normal show. I mean it wasn’t bad, but maybe they should have made Red Wedding the season finale or something and saved this episode. Then again there’s no rule set in stone that your season finale has to be totally mind blowing I guess. Especially if there are more seasons to come.

[quote]csulli wrote:
I didn’t even realize last night’s episode was the season finale. It was just like a normal show. I mean it wasn’t bad, but maybe they should have made Red Wedding the season finale or something and saved this episode. Then again there’s no rule set in stone that your season finale has to be totally mind blowing I guess. Especially if there are more seasons to come.[/quote]
I think if you ended with the Red Wedding people would have been pissed as f*cknuggets. Good idea to get some closure there in the last episode on that whole situation and continue on with plot developments so people can actually have something to think about.

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
I didn’t even realize last night’s episode was the season finale. It was just like a normal show. I mean it wasn’t bad, but maybe they should have made Red Wedding the season finale or something and saved this episode. Then again there’s no rule set in stone that your season finale has to be totally mind blowing I guess. Especially if there are more seasons to come.[/quote]
I think if you ended with the Red Wedding people would have been pissed as f*cknuggets. Good idea to get some closure there in the last episode on that whole situation and continue on with plot developments so people can actually have something to think about.[/quote]
Haha, yeah that makes sense actually.

It was not a bad episode I just kept hope that Tyrion would run up and Kick Joffrey in the Nuts Eric Cartman style after the credits

[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
Yea, likewise. Oh and polo I meant to respond to your post about Selmy being old.

SPOILERs (slight ones) below if you haven’t read the book.

In Selmy’s fight with (Kragas?) the bodyguard to Dany’s husband, didn’t he pretty much walk through him? I realize that guy was a cage fighter and not a soldier and all, but Selmy seems like he’s still got it. I do agree with you, that we will see him doing some awesome shit as a battle leader.[/quote]

Yea, he totally rips through the dude like a sparring dummy … I forgot about that

You just sent the most powerful man in Westoros to bed without his supper.

[quote]four60 wrote:
You just sent the most powerful man in Westoros to bed without his supper.
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This twit cannot even control himself, let alone a kingdom.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:
You just sent the most powerful man in Westoros to bed without his supper.
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This twit cannot even control himself, let alone a kingdom.

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The kid who plays him is absolutely perfect for the role. And everyone loves to hate him. I love the back and forths with the family like that. That scene was great

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:
You just sent the most powerful man in Westoros to bed without his supper.
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This twit cannot even control himself, let alone a kingdom.

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The kid who plays him is absolutely perfect for the role. And everyone loves to hate him. I love the back and forths with the family like that. That scene was great[/quote]

obscure reference: Joffery was the kid in Batman Begins who gets lost in Gotham after the Arkham breakout towards the end and is saved by Katie Holmes … me thinks she converted him to Scientology and this is the results