[quote] JJ wrote:
OBVIOUSLY it all depends, that should be a given - i personally dont think he needs to just start eating more, i think for his size, that should be enough - but it DEPENDS on metabolism, lifestyle etc…etc…etc!
The beauty of coming here with a problem, is the variety of answer you get. I posted a posing thread on the BB forum, i printed it off when it was done - stacked full of varied and relevant info… ALL OF WHICH WAS ANECDOTAL!
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WE AGREE HERE AND THAT IS THE MAIN POINT OF THE THREAD.
We actually agree on other things to, I might of made it confusing in my posts - but it’s there in both >> I myself have methods that go against science and that this site ‘rejects’ (I said that in my first post), ex: use of slin, way to cycle, etc… I had to find these out by trial and error the same way this guy needs to… WE AGREE ON THAT I BELIEVE.
Those were my only points so I think we agree now, yea?
It just scared me when the first 4 posters said EAT MORE and I was afraid no one else was going to respond and this guy was going to go and TRY only ONE thing, instead of a variety liek proviron etc.
[quote] JJ wrote:
I think you done well… gains may have stalled… this happens. As i wrote before, aas dont guarantee gains. You may need to reassess your training, i personally doubt you need any more calories… if you are eating enough of an excess to gain ANY fat, calories are unlikely to be the answer [/quote]
YES
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0.25mg adex will/should not be reducing your gains. if you stop you will surely get bigger… tits! and the water will increase. The slight reduction in anabolism is from a much reduced estro level, i am sure you have enough anabolism and estrogen! I would not stop you AI at week 7 at 750mg, that is very stupid IMO.[/quote]
If you’ve never had gyno DON’T USE AI NEXT CYCLE… BUT HAVE IT ON HAND. BUT AGREE WITH JJ
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If you have proviron on hand i would 100% recommend it personally… but i am a fan.[/quote]
Agreed, it is a very powerful drug when used with others.
I’m 5’8", and have gained some REALLY NICE POUNDS since starting my test cycle seven weeks ago (750mg/week). Specifically - I’ve gained SIXTEEN pounds, and my body fat has only risen from 9% to 11% - so I’m not complaining too terribly much.
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All depends on your goals BUT 9-11%, is a lot in 7 weeks for eating to little your taking adex so most of that is fat… I’ve never gained more than 1% compared to before pct and after… YOu shoiuld be building muscle faster than puting on fat when on cycle so logically your BF should stay same or got down… BUT ALL DEPEND ON GOALS.
i am inclined to agree here… it can be a large amount of fat…
But if you are 200lbs, a bf increase of 9%-11% is only 4lbs… on the high side of an acceptable fat gain by MY standards… and that is all this is, my standards - your may be different and thee is nowt wrong with that!
[quote]dirtbag wrote:
3800 clean calories. Wow eat more. I would say around 5000+ gain mofo gain!!! Invest in some gainer shakes if you need to top off the protein and cals. Then just keep plugging away.[/quote]
[quote]littlerunt wrote:
Okay, so here’s the real deal:
I’m 5’8", and have gained some REALLY NICE POUNDS since starting my test cycle seven weeks ago (750mg/week). Specifically - I’ve gained SIXTEEN pounds, and my body fat has only risen from 9% to 11% - so I’m not complaining too terribly much.
I will up my calories by about 500+ each day and see what happens with gains/fat/muscle. I’m pretty confident that my diet is clean and strong - so I’ll knock back a gainer shake that’s 650 calories with good protein/carb ratio. Will wait and see. Surely for someone my size 4500 is a good gaining caloric amount. Trial and error will tell.
BUT:
I’m wondering if my gains are leveling off. Week seven brought no new poundage, and week six only 1 pound. My body reacted amazing well to the dbol, and I was thinking to myself, “Now the test enanth will kick in and my gains will increase again.” My original concern was that my AI was going to hinder my gains - but maybe I’m jumping the gun. I’m debating stopping the .25adex ED.
I’ll be patient. Really, I will. After all, my three rep max on the bench press is now 305 - up a full fifty pounds. Damn, it feels good.
I work out five times a week, hitting chest and back twice usually, and the others once. All compound when possible, and I definitely always vary my workout. Thanks for all the input guys - it’s helps immensely. LittleRunt[/quote]
LR I know you answered this in another thread but I’m too lazy to track the answer down. Why did you select .25mgED of a-dex? Was it experience or fear of gyno?
I’m also on 750mg a week of Test E, plus 300mg a week of Tren E tomorrow I start my dbol at 50mg ED. I have anastrozole but have not used any yet and hopefully I won’t have to. On the great AI debate I’m pretty established as being a minimalist when it comes to AI’s. At this point in your cycle changing to EOD or E3D might not materialize much.
Learn from this cycle and apply it to next. Maybe next time go .25mg E3D or something