[quote]Game_over wrote:
thats one long cycle[/quote]
What do u mean? I only started. Or do u mean long thread? I have a lot of free time these days!!
AH!!! Stupid G.I. Joe, i meant to say 16 or 17 DAYS into my cycle…
haha just joshin ya bud
[quote]Game_over wrote:
haha just joshin ya bud [/quote]
haha no prob!
Have u ever put on 2kg in 2 days? I dont feel bloated or anything, i’m taking adex. Could it be legit!?
G.I.,
Sounds like you are taking in lots of food and working hard at the gym. Take the gains. Your new pics definitely show some growth.
2kg isn’t much, the amount of food or water you drink day to day will alter this. This is why I generally only weigh myself once per week ESPECIALLY when dieting. Otherwise it’ll drive you crazy.
suppose i prob have around the days where my drol kicks in and i’m already runnin a good amount of test but iwouldnt really know don’t really care so much about the number as i do about the mirror
Good cycle, but I think that still, you’re not quite ready. You could just eat a shitload more and train for mass and put on pounds and pounds without AAS, and then, the AAS will be more useful. If you gain 20lbs of muscle on your cycle, youll be where you should be when you should consider starting a cycle. Im just saying, the first cycle normally produces great gains and if you wait til you are a little bigger, it might give you more satisfying results than if you start now.
Ok BJ, i’ll start uninjecting right now!jk
No, i dont regret starting now, i have my reasons.
I think i’ll just stop focusing on my weight or it will drive me soft! Still 90kg today though!
I might play around with my program and try build up my chest and arms more, over the years i never focused on those because i wanted to train smart, or i thought, and i didn’t want to be like all the guys who trained chest and biceps every day! But i think i actually undertrained them!!
I trained Chest and triceps today. Started with Incline bench, was good pyramided (is that a word?) up to 85kg x 3.
Then butchered my chest with machine chest press drop sets, that was the main lifts.
Looking forward to deadlifts tomorrow!
Didn’t train today, got sweet fuck all sleep and was generally tired. The day off will probably do me good!
Injected again today. Everything was going grand, i located the VG site earlier and marked it. Then i filled the syringe and when i tried to inject it hurt like hell!! I couldn’t get the needle in a fraction. Normally there’s a little pinch, thats no problem but man it was sore! So i just bent around and injected right glute with no problems.
Overall i’m feeling good. I feel strong and pumped. I wouldn’t say that there’s a very big difference in libido. However i have a thought on recovery.
Since i first started weight training i’ve been unable to squat or leg press at a heavy weight. I’d get a pain in the same spot in my right knee but if i put my finger on the spot it would be ok! As i didn’t know what it was i didn’t train legs heavy for fear of causing further damage.
Then last year i said enough is enough and i meet with a specialist. I got a scan on my knee which initally revieled that i have trapped fluid in my right knee from an old injury. When i described the pain to the doctor he said that the trapped fluid is not causing the problem.That should hurt me for example when i’m walking down the stairs!
So then he told me that the pain i’m describing is most likely scar tissue from a small injury that i didn’t notice while playing football. He said this could be fixed by keyhole surgury. I said no. I was happy when he said that i could not do it further damage by squatting. So i decided to work through the pain, i wore knee straps and this got rid of the most of the pain.
The reason i’m telling this story is beacuse last december 50kg squats would be really sore without my knee strapped. But last week i squatted 100kg for 5 or 6 reps without straps and it was almost painless! Could this be a result of just my knee getting used of the squats or a result of the test E?!
Man i’m really missing playing football! Its recently started at home, i’m away in college. Its actually giving me motivation to work harder!
I’m off to the gym to deadlift and build my back!!
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An update:
Last week didn’t go as well as i hoped but this week is a big improvment. What i learned from it, is the main advise i’d have for people about to start a cycle.
The reason i had a bad week is bcause i expected a big jump in the weights every day. So i started on shoulder day wuith the same weight on the military press or my first set as i did in the last set the week before.
My advise would be to do pyramid sets and work your way up t the heavy weight instead of going straight for the heavy weight.
Last week i did Military 65kgx5/5/5/4 and i kind of hurt my shoulder, so this week i did 50/55/60/65/70 and i found it so much better, it didn’t hurt my shoulder and i actually lifted more!
This is a very long winded post, but i did the same or my squats, last week was 120kgx5’s this week i pyramided and i found it much much better. Like dorian’s blood and guts video!
Other motes, pinning is painless in glutes, but i want to find other sites that i like!
I’m hoping to bench 100kg next week for the first time!
I settled on a program which is the same every week. (sets)
- Chest(14) Triceps(9)
- Back(20) Forearms(8)
- Shoulders(17) Traps(6)
- Legs(18) Biceps(9)
Abs/Core at end on days i have energy for it.
Just a few points i want to bring up.
Counted calories yeaterday, was high, 4770.
Training hard but not making huge gains in anything, i suppose i expected too much to be honest.
Weight has been up and down between 90 and 91.5kg over the last week or so.
I’m training hard and eating loads but i’m doing zero cardio and i feel like my bodyfat is rising slightly, i dont mind to be honest but i think i might add in cardio once a week, is this necessary?
Also, i have a question, i am going away for a weekend soon, i’m due to pin on thursday and sunday at 6pm but i’m flying at 4pm thursday until 8pm monday. would it be ok to pin early on thursday and about 27 hours late for the next one, and then continue as normal, pinning again on the wednesday…?
yes
What point are you at in your cycle. It sounds like around week 8 when in my experience a cycle starts getting stale.
Cardio sounds like a good idea. More activity in any case. Walk more on a daily basis. You’ve got to burn some extra calories on a daily basis. I also wasn’t as lean as I would have liked on cycle. I neglected cardio and focused on weight training only 3 to 4 times a week.
Cardio will help with your appetite, keeping (or cutting) body fat. I was doing 2 x week but now doing 30 mins of LISS every morning on a stationary bike. I’m definitely dropping some fat and getting stronger at the same time. My actual weight isn’t moving either but the numbers in the gym are and visible look a lot better.
In the end, is 20-30 mins of LISS really going to burn up all the calories you’re eating or are you going to go catabolic? I doubt it. Add it and see what happens. I’m an endo and have finally realised I need to keep cardio in all year round if I want to keep the fat down.
I’m into week 7 of my cycle and after the big initial jump I’ve slowed down also. Are you switching the exercises every 4-6 weeks? Try adding some drop sets or rest paused sets.
Don’t have any misconceptions that 1 cycle will get you looking like Doz Yates either 
I normally react better to changes in reps over changes in exercises. I have a main few exercises that i dont ever drop but i change the others.
My cardio yesterday consisted of a game of soccer with some mates. My back hurt and i couldn’t run properly. The left part of my lower back felt like it filled with blood or something, and i’m covered in burns from sliding on thye astro turf, BUT today i feel great.
I think i’ll keep up some cardio on my days off, i prefer outdoor running over bike/treadmill. Right mow i’m thinking:
- Chest/Triceps/Forearms/Abs
- Back
- Light Cardio
- Shoulders/Forearms/Abs
- Legs/ Biceps
- Light Cardio
Repeat.
Forearms are in twice because i feel i need to hit them twice! And back is on its own because i hit it harder than every other bodypart because its bigger than any other bodypart and i give it extra sets.
Is it ok to do cardio on days off? Do they still count as days off?
DH, i’m just starting week 5. I am still improving i just expected too much!
I’m moving home for the summer so i’ll be playing Gaelic football all summer so i think i’ll need these cardio days to stop me getting slower/unfitter.
I benched 100kg today, so thats that goal reached.
I was squatting Wednesday with a few big guys in the gym and one of them pointed out that i wasn’t breathing during the heavy reps. I never even noticed this and i focused om my breathing today and my fly’s improved a good bit!
I dont need my strap on my bad knee anymore!
Thats all my updates for now!
Props on hitting 225. It’s a decent landmark to get to that one.
Changes in reps may only get your so far, the body adjusts rapidly, switching up exercises will seriously help even if you suck initially at a new movement. I tend to stick to a few key exercises though, especially compound movements.
Cardio on off days is fine, don’t worry about dropping all your muscle and burning calories. Seriously, the cardio will help if you feel the fat is increasing.
I hold my breath as I drop into the hole in a squat then still when I come out, I only exhale if I hit a sticking point or once I finished a rep; take another glup, and go again.
I’m interested as to why you need forearms twice, I actually reduced most of my direct forearm work since they’re hurting all week round from the increase in weight from other exercises! (especially heavy rows and deads).
Don’t get caught up in the idea that for them to grow they need more direct work - the other big movements will do that for you.
If i could choose one bodypart that i’d want to magically grow overnight i’d choose forearms! I just feel my forearms are too small, and big forearms look great. This is the first week i’ve hit them twice properly, first day with BB 25reps, second day with DB 8-10 reps.
Yeah i’ll change the program up in a few weeks, i rarely do the exact same one 2 weeks in a row anyways, i’m always changing something!
I hurt my shoulder in a tackle in training last september and it started getting sore again, i stopped the front raises and upright rows and it’s getting much better now. My only complaint now is my lower back when i go heavy on the squats. But i love squats so i’ve just raised the reps to 15/15/12/10/8/6/4. I pyramid up 10kg every set, thats the reps that it worked out last week.
I’m just going in now to hit my back, if my forearms are sore with DL’s and rows i’ll go back to 1 day a week. If now i’m aiming for 150kg DL!
Hit my 150kg DL! I thibnk thats 335ish.
My forearms were fine today, i dont really get a pump in them during back day! Dexter doesn’t do any direct forearm work!!
I forgot to mention earlier, the main side effect i’ve noticed is my body temperature has gone up quiet a bit! And i have a few patches of extra bodyhair, but i dont mind that, the girlfriend loves it!!