Hi guys, those of you who know me know i’ve been knocking around here for a while! I had a few different ideas of a first cycle, then i was gonna rush it, but luckily i gave it a lot of thought and waited until i was ready! Although i honestly thought i was ready when i wasn’t.
Thanks to everyone who helped me learn.
This is my cycle:
W1-12 Test E 250mg/E3D
W1-14 Adex 0.25mg/EOD
W1-14 HcG 250mg/EOD
PCT:
Stasis/Taper
I have loads of nolva on hand (was origanally planning against a stasis/taper - one of the reasons i decided to wait longer)
I have 40x250mg amps of test E, loads of Nolva, Hcg, Pre-injection wipes.
The Adex is due in the next couple of hours, i got an email from the courier. And the Sterile vials for reconstituting HcG are coming Tuesday.
I will not be starting until i have everything!
I have just taken photo’s so i’ll stick them up!
I’ve actually realised that my chest isn’t as developed as i thought!
I’m 23yeard old. 6ft tall. 85KG (whats that in pounds? i don’t know!!)
I’ve been training since i was 16, but i loose weight every summer due to intense cardio training for GAA (Gaelic Football - Ireland).
All input and constructive critisism is welcomed. Thanks.
Looks like a good cycle. I don’t think you’ll need nearly that much HCG, and certainly not from week 1. I don’t think you’ll really notice any testicular atrophy until after about the midpoint of your cycle, if then. In all honestly, I don’t think you need the HCG at all, but if you already have it on hand, what the hell.
You’re weight sounds a bit low unless your bodyfat is really low, but your cycle is set up well, so I’ll assume you know what you are doing.
I actually considered Front loading the test but since it is my first cycle it probably best if i dont, so i can see how my body reacts to this ester. Any views?
No offence taken Bonez, its true my diet wasn’t good for most of my years of training. I used to eat too much protien and not enough carbs. Right now though i know my diet is good. Plus i’ve got an excellent weight gainer, SERIOUS MASS by optium nutrition, its got 50g protien, 250g carbs and in total 1,250calories. I take that twice a day, plus 5 large balanced meals.
What is your opinion about what cortes said about the HcG?
No offence taken Bonez, its true my diet wasn’t good for most of my years of training. I used to eat too much protien and not enough carbs. Right now though i know my diet is good. Plus i’ve got an excellent weight gainer, SERIOUS MASS by optium nutrition, its got 50g protien, 250g carbs and in total 1,250calories. I take that twice a day, plus 5 large balanced meals.
What is your opinion about what cortes said about the HcG?[/quote]
You seem to have things well under hand. You could wait a few weeks before starting hCG, especially if not frontloading. I understand your reasoning for wanting to see how you react to the ester and not jumping to more advanced measures (like frontloading or adding dbol).
Slow and steady - I like it!
This strategy will enable you to add another component in a subsequent cycle and compare results.
I’ll say it again, cycle looks good, but long term, I really think you are short-changing yourself. You are nowhere NEAR your genetic potential. No offense, but you hardly look like you work out. I think you are going to short-change yourself.
Sure, you will make some great gains this cycle, and you may even keep most of them (though I have to question that, because if you knew how to eat properly for size you’d be bigger, and you’ll HAVE to know how to eat properly to maintain what you gain). What I see happening, however, is you having a much harder time of it in the future because you started from such a low first point.
I would save all of that stuff and use the new eating skills you claim to have acquired to take you to at least 200 lbs (91kgs) before using gear. Then you can start with the real knowledge of how to actually pack on mass coupled with the ace card of the gear, and can make a quick leap to 220 or 230. As it is, I don’t see those weights in your future for a long, long time.
I understand you will probably disregard all of this.
Thanks for the input cortes, i’ll take it under consideration over the next few days. You have to realise that i play a lot of sport and that stops me putting on weight every year. This year is the first year that i’m not doing intense cardio this time of year.
DH - What would be your dosage for the HcG?
Should i wait for week 3? Is there any harm starting at week 1?
There is no harm in starting hCG at the outset of your cycle. If you frontload, I would suggest you start hCG immediately since blood level will rise much quicker. If not frontloading, it would probably be several weeks before any discernable nut shrinkage so it’s not a must in those weeks.
I used 250iu EOD and that seems to be the concensus. If you want, you can do it E3D at the same dosage with your test e to keep things simple. If you notice some nut shrinkage change back to EOD.
In any case the shrinkage will not be permanent and even without hCG you would have been ok. Using it (during cycle) should help you bounce back faster post cycle. The reason being your nuts will still be primed for action rather than there being a little lag time to get them up and running again.
[quote]G.I. Joe Galway wrote:
Thanks for the input cortes, i’ll take it under consideration over the next few days. You have to realise that i play a lot of sport and that stops me putting on weight every year. This year is the first year that i’m not doing intense cardio this time of year.
DH - What would be your dosage for the HcG?
Should i wait for week 3? Is there any harm starting at week 1? [/quote]
Playing sports is great. No reason to stop doing that, but you have to have a surplus of calories if you want to really make use of the anabolics. The only reason people are saying this is because no one wants to see someone waste a perfectly good supply of gear.
DH - I’d love to frontload, and i have plenty of test to do it, but i think it probably beat if i don’t since it my first cycle! Eitherway i’ll do more reading on when other people started their HcG.
Bonez, i understand that,and i can guarantee you that i will not waste this cycle. I believe i am ready, and when i want something i work my ass off to get it! This will be no exception!
[quote]G.I. Joe Galway wrote:
DH - I’d love to frontload, and i have plenty of test to do it, but i think it probably beat if i don’t since it my first cycle! Eitherway i’ll do more reading on when other people started their HcG.
Bonez, i understand that,and i can guarantee you that i will not waste this cycle. I believe i am ready, and when i want something i work my ass off to get it! This will be no exception![/quote]
Well my adex landed today! Just syringes order and sterile vials for reconstituting HcG remaining!
I have a question for you guys: It relates to the importance of regular sleeping paterns. You see i’m a student and i have only two early mornings a week in college and lots of project work which i can earily do late at night, so although i get plenty of sleep, i dont sleep at regular times eg. 11pm to 7am.
Do you think i should start sleeping at regular times?
Ideally yes, regular patterns and adequate sleep are optimal. That said, many don’t have the luxury of a constant schedule, so try to ensure adequate sleep at least.
In my personal experience as a business owner, sleep is a do what you can with what you’ve got sort of situation. I do what I can and make good gains. As long as all other factors remain optimal, you will still make good gains, too.
That said, I still think you probably shouldn’t yet be starting a cycle. And as it is obvious that, as I predicted, you are, I probably will not be posting in this thread all that much beyond this thread.
