As a free person, I do what I want. No one outside of the government forces me to do shit. Everything is based on free exchange - give and take.
I work. I get paid. I order some protein from Biotest. They get paid. Free exchange. Give and take.
You don’t like my dog? Fine. That’s your RIGHT to not like my dog. It’s your house. I would never tell you that you must watch my dog. It’s your right to exclude my dog from your home. No beef with that.
But if you CHOOSE to exclude my dog, you CHOOSE to exclude me. Yes, it’s YOUR choice, too.
I’m not the one being the asshole. It’s simply a matter of two people with different views not being able to reach an agreement. It happens every day in life.
It’s bad enough that we’re enslaved to the government. I’ll be damned if I’m enslaved when I don’t have to be.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
As a free person, I do what I want. No one outside of the government forces me to do shit. Everything is based on free exchange - give and take.
I work. I get paid. I order some protein from Biotest. They get paid. Free exchange. Give and take.
You don’t like my dog? Fine. That’s your RIGHT to not like my dog. It’s your house. I would never tell you that you must watch my dog. It’s your right to exclude my dog from your home. No beef with that.
But if you CHOOSE to exclude my dog, you CHOOSE to exclude me. Yes, it’s YOUR choice, too.
I’m not the one being the asshole. It’s simply a matter of two people with different views not being able to reach an agreement. It happens every day in life.
It’s bad enough that we’re enslaved to the government. I’ll be damned if I’m enslaved when I don’t have to be.[/quote]
perfectly said. It’s not like either side is wrong in the issue, they just may not be able to come to an agreement. I don’t usually have an issue with my dog. Everyone loves her and comment on how well behaved she is. This just happens to be the one place she’s not welcomed, lol
[quote]Christine wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
I’m not the one being the asshole.
Yes you are, but that is nothing new.[/quote]
Interesting but typical take. I do not seek to compel anything to do what they don’t want to do. I don’t use guilt. I engage with people in free exchange.
But I’m the asshole because I won’t something I don’t want to do, simply because OTHER PEOPLE want me to do it.
Sadly, your collectivist vision of the world predominates. “But they want you there! So you MUST go!”
No one owns me. That includes my in-laws. If they want me to do something, then they need to let me bring my dog.
Which isn’t even “fair.” Spending three days with people who only “care” about me because I’m with their daughter isn’t my idea of fun. Yet I’m willing to sacrifice three days of my life for them. At the LEAST, they should let me bring my dog.
It’s funny… People act like you’re NOT doing them a favor, when you really are. Ingrates.
I am with everyone on this… I think all the advice is pretty much spot on. I have done all the things mentioned when I was married. My wife took my side when she knew it was appropriate, and vise versa.
My friends know that I am limited by my dog. Bottom line. And now that they realize thats what holds me back, they dont mind if I bring her over.
BUT you have a great dane. Thats a different ball game. I might have issue with a horse in my house even though at one time I had a lab and my mutt mix living in the place.
Food for thought, no matter how much you love your dog, puppy might be a bit big for most people to handle, dog lovers or not.
Your dog or nothing? Is having your dog with you at all times really that important?
Whatever, they are your priorities.
You’re an asshole becasue you feel the need to always tell everyone how inferior they are.
Yes, we get it CL. You are the most perfect example that humanity has to offer. I am so thankful that you dropped by to tell us, yet again, that we are all a bunch of useless losers. I don’t know what I would do if you didn’t drop by to remind us of your superior ways.
Yep. And it might not be something people understand. I respect that. Some might say, “That is weird!” I might say, “Posting pictures of your ass on the Internet is weird.” Whatever. We are all into what we are all into.
It’s a free society. I’m free to have my quirks.
What is getting lost here: JH’s preferences are subjective, but they are HIS. He is not demanding that anyone else see the world the way he sees it. He is not telling anyone to buy a dog, or watch his dog, or pay for his dog’s food - or anything else.
He is simply saying that IF they want him around, then they should be willing to give something in exchange to have him. It’s ALREADY a sacrifice for him to go at all. He doesn’t want to lose money and take the long drive. I can’t blame him.
So making him sacrifice even more is simply unreasonable and unacceptable.
If you were marrying my daughter, I would insist that you come to dinner so that I could get to know you.
My daughter would be her own person, so if you didn’t come I wouldn’t forbid her from marrying you. But I would deride your manhood forever, especially for crying about it. Nancy.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
Christine wrote: You’re really attached to that dog?
Yep. And it might not be something people understand. I respect that. Some might say, “That is weird!” I might say, “Posting pictures of your ass on the Internet is weird.” Whatever. We are all into what we are all into.
It’s a free society. I’m free to have my quirks.
What is getting lost here: JH’s preferences are subjective, but they are HIS. He is not demanding that anyone else see the world the way he sees it. He is not telling anyone to buy a dog, or watch his dog, or pay for his dog’s food - or anything else.
He is simply saying that IF they want him around, then they should be willing to give something in exchange to have him. It’s ALREADY a sacrifice for him to go at all. He doesn’t want to lose money and take the long drive. I can’t blame him.
So making him sacrifice even more is simply unreasonable and unacceptable. [/quote]
It’s unreasonable to not bring the dog on a get you know you dinner with potential future in-laws? It’s a sacrifice?
My take is that the complaints sound like that of a spoiled child. Since when does being a man mean that you can’t SACRIFICE a day to meet your fiance’s family?
And, I’m pretty sure the internet exists mostly for pictures of naked body parts.
I’ve met her family. I’ve been to family reunions. I’ve been to Easter dinner. It’s not like they don’t know me. They’ve had oppurtunities to get to know me.
ps- I should also note, since many have missed it. We went to their house a month ago for the whole weekend. Her sister was home, but her parents decided to go somewhere in VA for the weekend.
Must not have been too important to see us, when they have something to do.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
ps- I should also note, since many have missed it. We went to their house a month ago for the whole weekend. Her sister was home, but her parents decided to go somewhere in VA for the weekend.
Must not have been too important to see us, when they have something to do.[/quote]
That’s nice. You’re still marrying their daughter, so they still have the right to make demands on you. You don’t have to give in to all of their demands but you have to respect them. And don’t whine about it.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I’ve met her family. I’ve been to family reunions. I’ve been to Easter dinner. It’s not like they don’t know me. They’ve had oppurtunities to get to know me.
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
ps- I should also note, since many have missed it. We went to their house a month ago for the whole weekend. Her sister was home, but her parents decided to go somewhere in VA for the weekend.
Must not have been too important to see us, when they have something to do.
That’s nice. You’re still marrying their daughter, so they still have the right to make demands on you. You don’t have to give in to all of their demands but you have to respect them. And don’t whine about it.[/quote]
I’m not whining. I believe I made the post looking for opinions. BTW, we’re going to see them in December for dinner, so there
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I’ve met her family. I’ve been to family reunions. I’ve been to Easter dinner. It’s not like they don’t know me. They’ve had oppurtunities to get to know me.
[/quote]
Then why did you say:
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
yeah, since it’s basically a dinner to get to know me better, etc[/quote]
You obviously don’t believe that they know you all that well.
You know, I am marrying my girlfriend next year. Her dad is a federal agent, a 20 year cop, and the kind of protective father of his only daughter you see in the movies. And I catered to his every request, hint, and the few outright demands.
Whatever happened to showing respect? Seriously, a fucking dog?!? I love my dog as much as anyone, but this is just a little ridiculous, folks.
[quote]NeelyDan wrote:
You know, I am marrying my girlfriend next year. Her dad is a federal agent, a 20 year cop, and the kind of protective father of his only daughter you see in the movies. And I catered to his every request, hint, and the few outright demands.
Whatever happened to showing respect? Seriously, a fucking dog?!? I love my dog as much as anyone, but this is just a little ridiculous, folks.[/quote]
