Furious Log - 3rd Cycle

I am sure the few of you that were following this log have been wondering where the fuck I have been. Just laying low. Keeping up with training and trying to get er done.

after about 2 months of procrastinating on going back to see my doc I got my bloodwork back…

The test was taken during the stasis portion of my cycle…at the time I was taking 50mg test enth 2x/w, 20mg/d nolva, 50mg/d clomid, and i was on creatine …from the looks of things the nolva and clomid weren’t doing much for LH and FSH levels which leads me to think they would maybe be better off used during the taper if at all. My estrogen levels were also really high so I think I will likely keep using an AI right through PCT next time.

My doc is still a little freaked out that I am using juice cause he really doesn’t know all that much about it (I educated him on how I structure my cycles and do PCT, what the AI is used for, etc) so now he is starting to figure out that I know a lot and is pretty much just going with what I ask for. He gave me a script for Proscar no questions asked and I am pretty sure that if my Estrogen levels are still high when I have my next test he’d be open to giving me a script for Arimidex which would be awesome because then my drug plan would be covering the cost instead of me.

My next blood test I plan on doing in a few weeks. I am totally off now and should be well clear of any exogenous androgens by then (taper finished about 2 weeks ago).

Next test will just be Total Test, Free Test, LH, FSH, and Estradiol.

Any feedback on the results from those that understand them would be appreciated.

Test (my score) (normal range)

Glucose-fasting (5.3) (3.6-6.0) mmol/L

Thyrotropin (1.39) (0.35-5.0) MIU.L

Creatinine (116) (62-115) umol/L

eGFR (61)

Urate (365) (230-480) umol/L

Potassium (4.6) (3.5-5.5) mmol/L

Chloride (102) (100-110) mmol/L

Creatine Kinase (290) (40-280) u/L

Alkaline Phosphatase (121) (45-129) u/L

Albumin (48) (35-50) g/L

Lipids

  • Total Cholesterol (3.47) mmol/L

  • LDL (1.94) mmol/L

  • HDL (1.25) mmol/L

  • Chol/HDL ratio (2.8)

  • Triglycerides (0.62) mmol/L

Urinalysis

  • Gravity (1.024) (1.001-1.030)

  • pH (7.5) (5.0-8.0)

  • Protein - negative

  • Glucose - negative

  • Ketone - negative

  • Blood - negative

  • Nitrate - negative

  • Leucocyte Esterase - Negative

Hemoglobin (167) (135-175) g/L

Hematocrit (0.50) (0.40-0.50) L/L

WBC Count (6.3) (4.0-11.0) x E9/L

RBC Count (5.57) (4.50-6.00) x E12/L

MCV (88.9) (80-100) fL

MCH 30.0 (27.5-33.0) pg

MCHC (337) (305-360) g/L

RDW (13.9) (11.5-14.5) %

Absolute: NEUTS (3.8) (2.0-7.5) x E9/L

(A) LYMPH (1.9) (1.0-3.5) x E9/L

(A) MONO (0.6) (0.2-1.0) x E9/L

(A) EOS (0.1) (0.0-0.5) x E9/L

(A) BASO (0.0-0.2) x E9/L

Platelet Count (222) (150-400) x E9/L

FSH (<1) (2-8) IU/L

LH (<1) (2-6) IU/L

Testosterone (22.1) (8.4-28.7) nmol/L

Estradiol-17 Beta (208) (43-151) pmol/L

Prolactin 4 (2-18) ug/L

AST (36) (7-37) U/L

Stats

June 19 (July 16) July 25 (Aug 6) Aug 18 (Sept 4) Sept 25 (Dec 3)

Weight - 232lbs (240) 240 (239) 238 (232) 230 (234)
Neck - 17" (17) 17 (17) 17 (16.75) 17 (16.5)
Arm - 16.25" (16.5) 16.5 (16.5) 16.5 (16.25) 16.25 (16)
Shoulders - 53.5" (55.5) 55 (55) 55 (54) 54 (54)
Chest - 43" (44) 43 (42.5) 43 (42.5) 42 (43.5)
Torso - 37" (36.5) 35.5 (35.5) 35 (34.5) 34.5 (36)
Waist - 37" (36.5) 36 (35.5) 34.5 (33.75) 34 (36)
Hips - 43" (43.5) 43 (43.5) 42.5 (42) 42 (42.5)
Upper thigh - 26.5" (27) 26.5 (26.5) 27 (25.5) 26 (26)
Lower thigh - 21" (21.5) 21.5 (22) 22 (21) 21.5 (21)
Calf - 16" (16.25) 16 (16) 16 (15.75) 16 (16)

I have been trying to add back on some weight since finishing the taper so there is some sloppy weight gain that has happened just in the last few weeks…the torso and waist was still at about 35" until then.

So I am now (after all is said and done) in approximately the same size area as I was early in the cycle…maybe a little bigger and leaner (the original measurements were taken about 4 days in so there was about 5-8 pounds of water retention because I was about 225 pre-cycle)…I wish I would have taken measurements before I started the gear so I would have a better comparison but there is always a next time.

I am still happy that I am now at this stage naturally and when eating pretty much whatever I want. Shift in body composition seems to be holding. I am left with a about 3-5 pounds of fat lost and about 8-10 pounds of muscle gained…not bad but I think it can be improved upon.

I have another blood test in a few weeks to check test (total and free), LH, FSH, and estrogen levels to verify that I am fully recovered and that estrogen has dropped to normal levels.

I am going to take a bit of time off and then hit about a 6 month run of hGH along with a few short cycles starting in feb.

OK, so here is the follow up bloodwork after being off for a few months…

My libido has been kinda low (well low for me which means I don’t go crazy if I don’t clear the pipes daily) but not sure if that was low test or because I have been on Proscar (so decreased DHT).

From my bloodwork it looks like my estrogen is still high which is probably why my test is sort of low (negative feedback from E). I’m gonna start running some low dose Adex (0.25mg E3D) and slowly ramp that up until I see a libido increase then hold that dose and hopefully get another test in but most likely I’m gonna be back on cycle before that so it will have to wait until next post cycle to see the results. Next test will be a bioavailable test, plus LH, FSH, and E.

E - 144 (43-151) pmol/L
TT - 14.7 (8.4-28.7) nmopl/L
FT - 38.2 (31.0-94.0) pmol/L
FSH - 5 (2-8) iu/L
LH - 4 (2-6) iu/L

Good log. I just read through the whole thing. Good base of knowledge too which is nice to see. It appears that you had quite a few sides, but with the cycle, I guess that is to be expected.

After all is said and done, what would you have done differently? How long is your downtime going to be before going back on?

DD

well my main issue in terms of sides is gyno which I am just prone (and have had since I was a teen)…it takes very little to set it off.

If given the chance to do this cycle again I think I would try a lower dose of tren (30mg/d) and I would have used caber from the start…maybe also would have run the HCG during at a low dose rather than at the end of the cycle.

I am going to do a var/HGH cycle in the near future (next month or so) which means I have had about 4-5 months of off time…my next serious cycle will be in the summer…I started a thread on it called “time to get back on the horse” if you wanna see my cycle plan.