Fruits & Veggies - Unfilling

Don’t tell anyone, but I have been modifying my diet a bit. I have been trying to eat more fruits and veggies and less taters and pasta. And it is hard.

I cooked a roast. I put in a sack of carrots, half a sack of celery, and a package of mushrooms. I split it up three ways, and ate a meal of the stuff for the past three days. Thirty minutes, maybe an hour tops, I was hungry again.

I have also been trying the three apple a day for three months thing that I found somewhere on here. Once again, three apples should do something to saitaite my hunger, but its not. I can eat three apples, and still want actual food. I have been dabbling in the broccoli too. (don’t tell anyone!) I can eat a bowl of grapes, and feel like I had a single cookie. I am a naturally hungry guy, but I just can’t seem to get enough food out of produce. Last night I had to eat a large pizza (thin crust though, carbs are bad), and 3 cans of Coors just to make sure I didn’t starve to death over night! I have been trying this oatmeal thing, and I can eat a little oatmeal, but oatmeal everyday sucks, and I have 20 wonderful frozen hashbrowns patties that look really lonely.

So, my question is, is there some way that I can get hunger saitiation out of fruits and veggies? And also, why does it seem like that one cheat meal knocks out a couple of days worth of cleaner eating?

Between you and me, I have been training my legs too. I trained them sunday, and today my arse and my legs still hurt. Which is good.

You need to combine your fruits and veggies with fats and proteins. Peanut butter with your apples would help. Beef jerky with your broccoli. Nuts and fruit is a great snack. It still comes down to calories. You will be hungry without enough.

And yes, you may have to eat more often due to digestive differences, but that is alright.

By the way, there is absolutely nothing wrong with some pasta and potatoes with a meal. Add some olive oil to the pasta or some cottage cheese to the potato for an even better choice.

frozen hashbrowns --not so good.

Also may try veggies that have not been boiled to the point of being Mush. raw or lightly steamed and they will take a LOT!! longer to digest.

[quote]Phill wrote:
Also may try veggies that have not been boiled to the point of being Mush. raw or lightly steamed and they will take a LOT!! longer to digest.[/quote]

Yeha dude, eat that broccoli RAW and you will be sitting there with broccoli in your guts for a bit. And always have protein and fat with each feeding. Try spinach with olive oil and vinegar dressing. stays in ya.

Avocados are flling as heck. If three apples is too little and you are way too hyouuuge then eat 5, with peanut butter. Stack some havarti cheese on that broccoli to make it digest at a snails pace.

-chris

I still eat my protein. Its not that I am doing just fruits and vegetables. I pretty much have to cook my veggies or they wont get ate :slight_smile:

I know pasta and taters are OK, but I felt my belt buckle pinching my tummy a bit when I set down, so that is a sign I need to cut back a little. Plus, I thought maybe if a cut up a tad, it might help me with the ladies. My personality needs a complete rebuild, but its easier to give the body an oil change.

I love baked potatoes with sour cream, but that is about the worst thing to eat.

instead of fried potatoes go with a sweet potato but cook it healthy. I always find that when i eat baked sweet potato i am so full, like it expands in the gut. try it

In all reality those veggies you list if you are eating as many of them as you were taters and Pasta should stick around a LOT longer. They are much harder to digest etc…

Plus for the price of one potato k/cal wise good lord you could take in a few bags of brocolli.

I put a lot of fruits plus peanut butter and ground flax seed into my protein shakes. Unfortunately it tastes awful with vegetables. But Chad Waterbury puts broccoli into his shakes though.

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1186894&pageNo=0

take advantage of this and shovel in a grip of veggies with your fat and protein.

Ya’ll are missing the point. I am eating the same way, just where I would normally have something like pasta or taters, I am having fruits and veggies. So I am still getting my fats and protein. I was just kinda hoping I could lean out a little without feeling like I am starving to death.

[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
Ya’ll are missing the point. I am eating the same way, just where I would normally have something like pasta or taters, I am having fruits and veggies. So I am still getting my fats and protein. I was just kinda hoping I could lean out a little without feeling like I am starving to death. [/quote]

How did you think substituting one cal for another was going to lean you out?
You would need to consume a lot of broc. or berries to = one bowl of pasta or potato. If you’re hungry–eat more fats and proteins with your carbs.
Maybe it’s you who isn’t grasping the nutritional values of what you are eating and don’t fully understand the path to your goal.

Here’s a tip, if you’re not doing it already : eat your apples right after your regular meals, not in between.
Somehow they are way more filling then when you eat them on their own.

Also, water, water, water. And gum.

Don’t leave house without em.

You will all be very proud of me, I ate a one pound sack of broccoli today. I coated it in 360 calories worth of olive oil though, so I am not sure if eating veggies is going to help me lean out any.

LOL! One pound? You are progressing, but no medals yet for you.

I eat a one pound sack of broccoli at lunch and then another (or spinach) at supper. Olive oil is good, now try sprinkling some Parmesan cheese or something similar over it.

Try just one day to eat the same amount of “Calories” of broccoli and spinach as you were eating in taters and pasta. You probably won’t be feeling hungry.

[quote]TigerJim wrote:
LOL! One pound? You are progressing, but no medals yet for you.

I eat a one pound sack of broccoli at lunch and then another (or spinach) at supper. Olive oil is good, now try sprinkling some Parmesan cheese or something similar over it.

Try just one day to eat the same amount of “Calories” of broccoli and spinach as you were eating in taters and pasta. You probably won’t be feeling hungry. [/quote]

Hell, yeah, dude! I can eat broccoli by the bushel. You have to, to get any calories out of it. Eggs, too. I can eat a dozen eggs, and ten minutes later I want to eat more.

I ate my pound of broccoli today again. I managed to get it down with only 2 glasses of water, instead of 4. I guess I am getting used to it. I might cut back from three tablespoons of olive oil to two spoons, that damn olive oil is very calorically dense.

Anyways, how long does it take before the broccoli starts to kick in?
I thought that eating my veggies and fruits would help me to leap tall buildings, lift anvils over my head by the horn, and get a well chiseled mid-section. So far the only benefit I have noticed is that my shits watery.

Ok, if someone has time, please answer my question.

A friend of mine at the gym who seems very knowledgable said that broccoli contains a substance that is like an organic clomid. Is this true, or is he pulling my leg?

[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
Ok, if someone has time, please answer my question.

A friend of mine at the gym who seems very knowledgable said that broccoli contains a substance that is like an organic clomid. Is this true, or is he pulling my leg?[/quote]

Somewhat in a way yes. Do a little search for an article not to long back by TC on magic foods etc. There are a few of them one in particular goes into broccoli and there are others on the site as well.

Broc. is loaded with nutrients man much much more so then your beloved taters and pasta which have NIL stick to the dark veggies.

And stop drinking Coors. If you’re going to drink a cheap beer, at least get Bud.

[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
Ok, if someone has time, please answer my question.

A friend of mine at the gym who seems very knowledgable said that broccoli contains a substance that is like an organic clomid. Is this true, or is he pulling my leg?[/quote]

Indole-3 carbinol (I3C) is the name of the compound inside brocolli, cauliflower, cabbage, brussel sprouts and mustard that exhibits anti-estrogenic properties.

To address your main post, you might want to be a little more “scientific” with your diet. For example, slowly ramp down your calories over the course of 6 weeks or so. Too many people go from A to Z when instead they might be better off going from A to B to C to D…to Z.