Fruit and Vegetable Shortage to Come

So this isn’t some conspiracy just thought I would share info in case others weren’t aware. Might want to stock up on canned and frozen fruits and veggies. Estimates I have seen will put store prices at 2x-3x current prices within a month because of the issues with supply.

a report from cysco about produce from Florida and Mexico

http://www.scribd.com/doc/48612636/Mexcico-s-Big-Freeze-Dated-Feb-8-2011-from-www-Sysco-com-World-s-Largest-Food-Aggregator-Marketer-and-Distributor

February 8, 2011
THE EXTREME FREEZING TEMPERATURES HIT A VERY BROAD SECTION OF MAJOR GROWING REGIONS IN MEXICO, FROM HERMOSILLO IN THE NORTH ALL THE WAY SOUTH TO LOS MOCHIS AND EVEN SOUTH OF CULIACAN. THE EARLY REPORTS ARE STILL COMING IN BUT MOST ARE SHOWING LOSSES OF CROPS IN THE RANGE OF 80 TO 100%. EVEN SHADE HOUSE PRODUCT WAS HIT BY THE EXTREMELY COLD TEMPS.

IT WILL TAKE 7-10 DAYS TO HAVE A CLEARER PICTURE FROM GROWERS AND FIELD SUPERVISORS, BUT THESE GROWING REGIONS HAVENâ??T HAD COLD LIKE THIS IN OVER A HALF CENTURY. THIS TIME OF YEAR, MEXICO SUPPLIES A SIGNIFICANT PERCENT OF NORTH AMERICAâ??S ROW CROP VEGETABLES SUCH AS: GREEN BEANS, EGGPLANT, CUCUMBERS, SQUASH, PEPPERS, ASPARAGUS, AND ROUND AND ROMA TOMATOES.

FLORIDA NORMALLY IS A MAJOR SUPPLIER FOR THESE ITEMS AS WELL BUT THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN STRUCK WITH SEVERE FREEZE DAMAGE IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY AND UP UNTIL NOW HAVE HAD TO PURCHASE PRODUCT OUT OF MEXICO TO FILL THEIR COMMITMENTS, THAT IS NO LONGER AND OPTION.
WITH THE SERIES OF WEATHER DISASTERS THAT HAS OCCURRED IN BOTH OF THESE MAJOR GROWING AREAS WE WILL EXPERIENCE IMMEDIATE VOLATILE PRICES, EXPECTED LIMITED AVAILABLITITY, AND MEDIOCRE QUALITY AT BEST.

THIS WILL NOT ONLY HAVE AN IMMEDIATE IMPACT ON SUPPLIES, BUT BECAUSE OF VERY STRONG BLOSSOM DROPS, THIS WILL ALSO IMPACT SUPPLIES 30 â?? 60 DAYS FROM NOW. SOME GROWERS ARE MEETING WITH THEIR BOARDS RIGHT NOW TO DETERMINE WHETHER THEY SHOULD IMMEDIATELY RE-PLANT, HOPING FOR A HARVEST BY LATE-MARCH-TO-EARLY-APRIL, OR WHETHER THEY SHOULD DISC THE FIELDS UNDER AND WAIT FOR ANOTHER SEASON.

We are doing everything we can with our growers to minimize the effect of this disaster on you. With the unprecedented magnitude of this event we wanted to immediately make you aware of the conditions. We will continue to send out communications as our people on the ground report back to us. We thank you and we appreciate your understanding during this time.

http://www.marketskeptics.com/2009/04/freeze-damages-us-winter-wheat.html

Freeze puts chill on Okla. wheat outlook
By Candace Krebs
Ag Journal
Posted Apr 10, 2009 @ 03:03 PM

Oklahoma State University agronomist Jeff Edwards (above) and Kansas State University agronomist Jim Shroyer will be scouting wheat fields for freeze damage in the days ahead. An overnight freeze early this week had the potential to cause damage to a significant portion of the 2009 wheat crop.

Enid, Okla. â?? Add extensive freeze damage to the hazards that could significantly reduce this yearâ??s crop of hard red winter wheat.

A significant portion of the crop was at risk â?? and may have been permanently damaged â?? by the latest spring cold front that moved across the Southern Plains this week. While earlier spring snowstorms brought needed precipitation to a wide portion of the region â?? as much as 30 inches in one day in West Central Kansas â?? the unseasonably cold temperatures that followed will likely take a heavy toll.

â??Normally Iâ??m an optimist about everything but this has me spooked,â?? said Jeff Edwards, small grains agronomist for Oklahoma State University.

Northwest Oklahoma, the Texas Panhandle and Southern Kansas posted new record lows on Tuesday night. Freezing temperatures plunged all the way south of the Red River.

Agronomists wonâ??t know the full extent of the damage for another week or so, but temperatures in the lower 20s can â??hammerâ?? wheat at its current growth stage, already accelerated by drought stress, Edwards said.

According to the Oklahoma Crop and Weather Update, 86 percent of the Oklahoma wheat crop had reached jointing stage when the cold snap hit. Oklahoma Wheat Commission Executive Director Mike Schulte estimated the crop was probably two to three weeks ahead of normal development. About 20 percent of the Kansas crop was estimated to be at a similar stage.

Agronomists were just starting to get a handle on harm from the earlier storm in late March, which brought heavy snow to many areas and also left behind some preliminary signs of damage.

â??It got the guys who maybe planted earlier than they should have or had heavy fall forage growth or drought stress on the crop, so it was marginal anyway,â?? Edwards said. â??In other words, it got the wheat with not quite as good of yield potential. This time around I think all were susceptible, all were at risk, even if they did everything right.â??

In Oklahoma, the stateâ??s best looking wheat was in the central and north central regions where temperatures plummeted on Tuesday and remained well below freezing for around eight hours, making damage likely.

The Oklahoma panhandle, already under severe drought stress, could squeak by due to lack of maturity. â??They are the furthest behind in terms of development so they could still come out okay,â?? Edwards predicted.

He was quick to caution that the jury is still out on the extent of damage.

â??We canâ??t tell the damage until next week. Farmers donâ??t need to throw in the towel â?? yet. Freeze damage is not an exact science,â?? he said. â??My recommendation for growers would be to do something for the next seven to 10 days to take their mind off of it â?? play golf or go on a vacation â?? thatâ??s the best thing they could do. Then, after 10 days of good growing conditions, come back and inspect it. Then you can make the call.â??

In Southern Kansas, yield potential was probably reduced to some extent by the storm in late March, according to Jim Shroyer, Kansas State University Extension agronomist. But the risk of damage will be higher this time around, especially without a blanket of snow to protect the crop. He called the situation â??touch and go.â??

Much of the wheat crop from Texas to Colorado was already under pressure from drought. Even factoring in the late March snowstorm, western and central Kansas are well below average in precipitation accumulation.

Prospects now look better in Colorado, where spring snows provided much-needed moisture and at least half the crop is rated good to excellent.

The erratic spring weather has been generally bullish for wheat prices, which trended upward the last two weeks as crop conditions deteriorated. Winter wheat accounts for about three-fourths of total U.S. wheat production. Total worldwide wheat production is forecast to fall this year.

Some market observers are making comparisons to a widespread late freeze in 2007 that greatly diminished the wheat harvest and put prices on a bull rally that lasted for more than a year.

USAgNet reports that Texas freeze damages already struggling wheat crop.

Texas Freeze Damages Already Struggling Wheat Crop
USAgNet - 04/09/2009

The latest freeze isn’t only hurting home gardeners in the Lone Star State, it’s killing the hopes of a lot of Texoma wheat farmers.

Many of them have invested more than they ever have this year in their wheat crop, paying high prices for fuel and fertilizer, but with little rain and spring freezes, they’re left with what’s looking like a dismal harvest come May.

“They weren’t going to make much and this is kinda the last nail in the coffin, really. You don’t really know what to tell them and you don’t know where they’re going to go from here. I’m afraid that some of them aren’t going to be able to, to continue to farm much longer.”

Baylor County Extension Agent Brad Easterling says, unless a significant amount of rain comes by May, the most some farmers will be able to hope for is enough wheat for seed to use next season.

My reaction: Last week, I wrote about a hard freeze damaging wheat crops in southern plains. As expected, freezing temperature look certain to have damaged US wheat crops.

  1. Temperatures in Northwest Oklahoma, the Texas Panhandle, and Southern Kansas hit record lows on Tuesday night.

  2. Temperatures in the lower 20s can decimate wheat at its current growth stage (86 percent of the Oklahoma wheat crop had reached jointing stage).

  3. Oklahoma’s best looking wheat was in the central and north central regions where temperatures plummeted on Tuesday and remained well below freezing for around eight hours, making damage likely.

  4. Much of the wheat crop from Texas to Colorado has already been under pressure from drought.

  5. Winter wheat accounts for about three-fourths of total U.S. wheat production.

  6. With little rain and spring freezes, the most some Texan wheat farmers will be able to hope for is enough wheat for seed to use next season.

Conclusion: Drought and extensive freeze damage will significantly reduce this year’s crop of winter wheat. With production falling around the world, food prices look certain to head much higher in 2009.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/giant-locusts-threaten-nsw-crops/story-e6frf7jx-1226003591614

A RARE, giant breed of locusts has the potential to destroy crops in NSW overnight, the State Government says.

The spur-throated locusts is a mainly tropical species found in Queensland and the Northern Territory but warm and humid weather has drawn them into NSW.

Primary Industries Minister Steve Whan says the Government has a plan of attack to help northwestern NSW farmers control the largest outbreak in 40 years.

“The much larger spur-throated locust is a ferocious eater and can completely destroy a crop overnight,” Mr Whan said in a statement.

“Insecticides are now being made available to farmers to control densely-populated spur-throated locust nymphs on their properties.”

Rangers are also being deployed to help farmers identify the creatures, which have a spur or throat peg between their front legs.

Cough…(bull)

Awhile ago before bed I started thinking how it would be advantageous to have a large greenhouse farm outside of every major city to supply fresh produce year-round. Have composting set-up, solar/wind energy supply systems. I think it would be cool, although I’m not sure how feasible it is.

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Awhile ago before bed I started thinking how it would be advantageous to have a large greenhouse farm outside of every major city to supply fresh produce year-round. Have composting set-up, solar/wind energy supply systems. I think it would be cool, although I’m not sure how feasible it is.[/quote]

It isn’t, and moreover there is no need.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Awhile ago before bed I started thinking how it would be advantageous to have a large greenhouse farm outside of every major city to supply fresh produce year-round. Have composting set-up, solar/wind energy supply systems. I think it would be cool, although I’m not sure how feasible it is.[/quote]

It isn’t, and moreover there is no need.
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So what kind of area do you live in, you have ll the food you need, do y ou know where food comes from?

The places listed are the major suppliers for most of the U.S. in the winter, yeah short season stock will be back by mid to end of summer, but for people already tight on money this is going to be an issue.
unless they don’t eat produce or wheat products.

MattyG35 , has a good idea, and you have to be a prick. What is so bad about being as self sufficient as you can, as a person or a society.

we don’t need to grow things, don’t need to make things. Wow sounds like plan Zeb, great logic.

Where that idea came from was this lifer said to me “Why the fuck am I eating pickles from India?”.

I prefer meat anyway. Maybe fillets will drop in price…

There has been some scholarly work on large-scale hydroponics in unused warehouses. A book came out recently but I cannot remember the name.

Imagine, Detroit as an agricultural center.

Look up “urban gardening” and “roof top gardening” for interesting progress in those areas. Some is for fancy restaurants, some for low income populations

[quote]pat wrote:
I prefer meat anyway. Maybe fillets will drop in price…[/quote]

nope, it is all connected, grain shortages, = higher cost,

I’m inclined to agree with Zeb in this instance. I can only speak to the wheat crop in central and western Oklahoma, but it does get cold there (winter, zomg!!111!) and it does snow too. The only thing that sounds right in the text I quoted was the lack of rain fall. My area of the state (Northeast) has broken snowfall records, but the aforementioned wheat growing regions have not received near as much snow.

It might be an issue short term, but that is about it.

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Awhile ago before bed I started thinking how it would be advantageous to have a large greenhouse farm outside of every major city to supply fresh produce year-round. Have composting set-up, solar/wind energy supply systems. I think it would be cool, although I’m not sure how feasible it is.[/quote]

Sounds like a perfectly good weed plantation.

Grow weed, buy vegies.

I think the goal of every country should be to become self sustaining.

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
I think the goal of every country should be to become self sustaining. [/quote]

I think that this is a recipe for war and poverty.

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
I think the goal of every country should be to become self sustaining. [/quote]

That is a recipe for war. Free trade is a recipe for peace.

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Awhile ago before bed I started thinking how it would be advantageous to have a large greenhouse farm outside of every major city to supply fresh produce year-round. Have composting set-up, solar/wind energy supply systems. I think it would be cool, although I’m not sure how feasible it is.[/quote]

I’m not sure how big your city is, but it would be difficult to have a “large” greenhouse for an entire city.

[quote]pat wrote:
I prefer meat anyway. Maybe fillets will drop in price…[/quote]

If this is true, the demand for meat will increase because of the drop in supply of vegetables.

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
I think the goal of every country should be to become self sustaining. [/quote]

I believe there were a few wars, famines, death camps, &c. over “self sustaining” as a country.

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
I think the goal of every country should be to become self sustaining. [/quote]

That is a recipe for war. Free trade is a recipe for peace.
[/quote]

How so? I would think that, if every country is not self sustaining, each country relies on resources from other countries. So they have an interest in controlling/taking those resources, which leads to conflict (think oil).

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
I think the goal of every country should be to become self sustaining. [/quote]

That is a recipe for war. Free trade is a recipe for peace.
[/quote]

How so? I would think that, if every country is not self sustaining, each country relies on resources from other countries. So they have an interest in controlling/taking those resources, which leads to conflict (think oil).

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If your goal is to be self sustaining and you don’t have the resources for it you invade those that do.

If your goal is to use free trade to sustain yourself you trade the goods you produce best for those someone else produces best. You have the advantage of having best goods and you avoid war with your trading partners.

Fuck it. The worlds’ ending every other week with some new disaster, disease, economic panic or whatever. If it gets too bad then I will just do what I have to do.