I was reading about this the other day and want to make sure I understand it right…
so, let’s say i’m going to stack deca and winny for two short cycles.
300mg of deca a week and 50mg of winny every other day…
if deca’s half life is 6 days then there’ll be an average of 25mg of deca “released” every day. so, from the reading, i want to do my first shot PLUS the average per day till my next shot.
if i’m injecting deca every 6th day then on day one of the cycle i’d inject 450mg (300 plus 150) and 50mg of winny…
day 6 - 300mg of deca
day 12 - 300mg deca
day 18 - 150 mg of deca
(plus 50mg of winny on days 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 21)
then go off for 3 weeks and do the whole thing again.
does that look about right? i wanna make sure i understand it totally BEFORE i start.
don’t let anyone scare you away from deca. the gains are solid, and the side effects are essentially nil. my first two cycles had deca as the base, and neither time did i have the infamous “deca dick” nor did i even bother to use clomid/hcg or any PCT. i wouldn’t suggest not having nolva on hand (just in case you turn out to be super sensitive to gyno), but that’s all i would worry about. about your cycle, don’t over complicate it with half lives. that shit lingers for so long, once you are four weeks in to your cycle, in reality half lives won’t even be a factor.front load if u want to (i’m still on the fence about whether it is benficial) but just shoot every 7 days. if deca’s all you are using, you might want to up the dosage from 300mg/week so you can see some positive effects. Just my humble opinion since i don’t know if this is your first cycle or what.
P.S. - Don’t do short cycles with deca, cuz by the time it’s over, you’ll just be starting to see the gains. 8 weeks minimum, 10 - 12 preferably…
yeah, i’m not going to be scared off of doing deca…i’ve already done a deca cycle.
didn’t get a lot of size…but i got good strength gains. i don’t think i didn’t get the size because i didn’t use enough (i pyramided up and down)…then again, i don’t want to gain a LOT of size anyway. lol…probibly not a good idea to let everyone at work know i do it.
The half life of Deca is about 16 days, not 6. Clomid and nolva would not have the same affect for post cycle recover, as if you were running something that aromatized to estrogen, since the work by occupying the ER in the HTPA…
16 days? all the reading i’ve done (most being from this site) say it’s between 6-8 days…
where/how did you find out it was 16?
and yeah, i know deca and winny don’t convert to estrogen…that’s partly why i chose them…but i do still have some nolva on hand just incase i start to get sensative nipple while on. if i’m not mistaken, that CAN happen when you get into higher doses…right?
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16 days? all the reading i’ve done (most being from this site) say it’s between 6-8 days.
where/how did you find out it was 16?
and yeah, i know deca and winny don’t convert to estrogen…that’s partly why i chose them…but i do still have some nolva on hand just incase i start to get sensative nipple while on. if i’m not mistaken, that CAN happen when you get into higher doses…right?[/quote]
I hate to do this to you, but I guess you never checked out the steroid newbie thread did you? you will find a listing of all the half lives there, and although I have seen slighlty different lists that say different times I can assure you that the decanoate ester half life is around 15-16 days. It is used also in psyciatry for mental health patients in the community who are non-compliant with taking their anti-psycotic meds. We simply give them the med with the decanoate ester attatched in an oily sollution and they are good for 6 weeks! I hope you get the picture now…
Oh and deca will not aromatise to estrogen, however in rare circumstances while you are taking high doses - like say over a gram a week, you may get some progesteronic gyno - but for that you would need some bromocriptine or vitex (chaste berry). However winstrol to a certain extent is a progesterone receptor antagonist, and also down regulates the ER so in your case there is no point in the nolva, unless of course you buy an underground source that has been advertised as nandrolone decanate, but is actually testosterone. (since test is cheap).
I hate to do this to you, but I guess you never checked out the steroid newbie thread did you? you will find a listing of all the half lives there, and although I have seen slighlty different lists that say different times I can assure you that the decanoate ester half life is around 15-16 days. It is used also in psyciatry for mental health patients in the community who are non-compliant with taking their anti-psycotic meds. We simply give them the med with the decanoate ester attatched in an oily sollution and they are good for 6 weeks! I hope you get the picture now [/quote]
i wasn’t saying you were wrong…just that it’s different from what i’ve read. no, i haven’t checked out the steroid newbie thread…all of what i know if from articles i’ve read on here (i have about 10-15 of them at home)
