I hope he has problems losing the weight, has strech marks and loose skin, has stubborn pockets of fat that won’t go away, and stops getting modeling jobs because of it. That’ll show him what it is really like to have once been fat and how stupid it was to do something like this.
[quote]TheBigV wrote:
Dentists should stop brushing their teeth. I mean, how can clients really feel comfortable with a dentist who hasn’t had terrible teeth before?[/quote]
Bingo. This is so fucking retarded…you no more have to gain 90 lbs of fat to know being a lardass sucks any more than you’d have to try to drive blindfolded to know that yes, seeing is preferable to being blind.
This reminds me of those rich white kids (oh why is it always the rich white kids) who spend the night under an overpass to better “understand” the plight of the homeless.
It’s called a concept, grasp it. You don’t have to experience every fucking thing in the world to know some of it sucks.
Unbelievable. Ok, IF he can actually lose the fat and transform his body into a muscular one, let’s say 220 lbs, 10% body fat, now THAT would show me that he knows what he’s doing. He may be able to use that to his advantage.
Will he MAYBE understand some of the physical limitations his obese clients face when they first begin a program? Yes. Although I don’t think he had to gain the weight to learn that.
I have a feeling his “original” look came from being an active young man who got into the business and learned to maintain his “look” through eating like a bird, weights and cardio. I think he’s in for a big wake-up call trying to lose all that fat.
I’d be interested to see how this all turns out. Success or suicide by french fries.
[quote]DickBag wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Vegita wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Vegita wrote:
Well seeing as how we are both assuming we know how hard he worked we are both talking out of our asses. I will try to find his workout logs or training routines or something to see how hard he worked. And you speak of avoiding a burger like it is easy. LOL discipline with your diet is a very big hurdle for most people weather it’s calorie restrictive or calorie excessive. Sticking to a set meal plan is no harder if you have to eat 6 meals at 6,000 calories than it is if you have to eat 6 meals at 2,500 calories. Of course I know you think and have stated before how much work it is to wipe your ass multiple times a day because of how much you shit on a big diet, so I guess technically it is harder, but not much.
Do I think he was skinny, yes of course he was, he was 2 inches taller than I am and 20lbs lighter. Sure it’s skinny, but do I care that he was skinny? no why the hell would I care? You care.
V
Brotha please, one thing I know for a fact that it is EASIER for someone to maintain a smaller physique (ripped or not) at well under 200lbs (shit, he’s probably under 170 in those pics) at average height than it is for someone to maintain a ripped physique carrying 30lbs or more than that.
There is no debate there. This guy never experienced needing POUNDS of meat everyday to maintain his body weight or to lose so why would you think it is comparable to someone much more muscular? It isn’t.
How much easier? 1% easier? 5% easier? 50% easier? I mean you used all caps on easier so I must assume at least 30% easier. (cue pink sarcasm font) In fact your use of caps has swayed my opinion over to your side. His prior physique is easy to get and a worthless chariacture of a skinny Metro fag who lives in his moms basement and doesn’t play sports because he might nick his manacure.
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Glad we agree. Your arguments were pretty weak before your epiphany. Needing 3-5lbs of beef and fish to look like a pro when DIETING can not logically be easier than maintaining a smaller 165lbs physique on only 2,000cals a day. The effort in feeding alone makes it more difficult.
If you want to get into whether benching 400-500lbs is easier than “toning on a Bowflex”, start a new thread.
this arguement with vegita and you reminds me of an arguement i had with my friend. i was saying that theoretical physics was more difficult than spinning for pike.
his arguement was “it depends on the person”
that arguement went on for nearly 40 minutes
good times
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Why would you spin for pike when jigging is so much easier? And BTW theoretical physics is easy, just come up with a theory and discuss it with a bunch of nerds, I’m sure there are some theoretical physics forums right now debating if Stephen Hawkings brain mass was superior before his ailment, or did his ailment cause him to use more of his brain, thus making it begger and stronger (smarter). Kinda like the discussion (argument) we are having in this thread.
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Vegita wrote:
debraD wrote:
Vegita wrote:
debraD wrote:
I’m with Prof X. The guy is a jackass. What the hell is there to understand? What chafing feels like? I bet formerly fat guys who are now personal trainers are about a dime a dozen. Wouldn’t they be the ones who can really ‘relate?’
Isn’t there an old saying about walking a mile in someones shoes? Is it the best idea in the history of ideas? Did he attract attention to himself and will it likley lead to something positive for him weather it be an acual better understanding of his clients or thier perception that he has a better understanding? Will he likley make more money after this runs it’s course or will he make less money? I think there are certainly plenty of positives from him doing this.
V
So the guy is a whore for media attention and will likely capitalize from it. How is this worthy of respect?
I guess in your opinion it’s not. I view it as a savy business move on his part. That, I myself can respect. I don’t hate on people for improving thier lot in life. Or for trying something different.
V
What the…HE HASN’T DONE SHIT YET. He hasn’t even dieted back down yet you are giving him props for getting fat due to possible publicity he may get when he finally does.
Yes, there are many people clueless enough to think this means something. Yes, actually making a business decision based on this MAY be good business if it works…but until it does, this is one dumb ass move. I could see if he used this to actually bulk up and gain some muscle, but how is it helping anyone else for him to quit training and become really fat?
If he gets a tv show deal out of it, great. THEN it will be a great business move. If this is the end of his 15 minutes of fame, then no, it was just one guy who got lazy on purpose so he could spend more time eating frosted donuts.[/quote]
I’m sure many people told Bill Gates he was a dumbass for dropping out of college (harvard?) and starting his own “computer” business. Wol is right, you are negative and you seem to think someone doing something out of the box automatically means it is stupid. Hate to tell you, but most of the great people who have ever lived in this world, had people like you around to tell them they were dumb losers the whole way. Am I saying this kid is going to be great? No but i’m also not going to tell him he is a loser for taking a chance and doing something unique.
V
[quote]Vegita wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Vegita wrote:
debraD wrote:
Vegita wrote:
debraD wrote:
I’m with Prof X. The guy is a jackass. What the hell is there to understand? What chafing feels like? I bet formerly fat guys who are now personal trainers are about a dime a dozen. Wouldn’t they be the ones who can really ‘relate?’
Isn’t there an old saying about walking a mile in someones shoes? Is it the best idea in the history of ideas? Did he attract attention to himself and will it likley lead to something positive for him weather it be an acual better understanding of his clients or thier perception that he has a better understanding? Will he likley make more money after this runs it’s course or will he make less money? I think there are certainly plenty of positives from him doing this.
V
So the guy is a whore for media attention and will likely capitalize from it. How is this worthy of respect?
I guess in your opinion it’s not. I view it as a savy business move on his part. That, I myself can respect. I don’t hate on people for improving thier lot in life. Or for trying something different.
V
What the…HE HASN’T DONE SHIT YET. He hasn’t even dieted back down yet you are giving him props for getting fat due to possible publicity he may get when he finally does.
Yes, there are many people clueless enough to think this means something. Yes, actually making a business decision based on this MAY be good business if it works…but until it does, this is one dumb ass move. I could see if he used this to actually bulk up and gain some muscle, but how is it helping anyone else for him to quit training and become really fat?
If he gets a tv show deal out of it, great. THEN it will be a great business move. If this is the end of his 15 minutes of fame, then no, it was just one guy who got lazy on purpose so he could spend more time eating frosted donuts.
I’m sure many people told Bill Gates he was a dumbass for dropping out of college (harvard?) and starting his own “computer” business. Wol is right, you are negative and you seem to think someone doing something out of the box automatically means it is stupid. Hate to tell you, but most of the great people who have ever lived in this world, had people like you around to tell them they were dumb losers the whole way. Am I saying this kid is going to be great? No but i’m also not going to tell him he is a loser for taking a chance and doing something unique.
V[/quote]
Ridiculous. Do you known how many people drop out of school who do NOT become Bill Gates?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Vegita wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Vegita wrote:
debraD wrote:
Vegita wrote:
debraD wrote:
I’m with Prof X. The guy is a jackass. What the hell is there to understand? What chafing feels like? I bet formerly fat guys who are now personal trainers are about a dime a dozen. Wouldn’t they be the ones who can really ‘relate?’
Isn’t there an old saying about walking a mile in someones shoes? Is it the best idea in the history of ideas? Did he attract attention to himself and will it likley lead to something positive for him weather it be an acual better understanding of his clients or thier perception that he has a better understanding? Will he likley make more money after this runs it’s course or will he make less money? I think there are certainly plenty of positives from him doing this.
V
So the guy is a whore for media attention and will likely capitalize from it. How is this worthy of respect?
I guess in your opinion it’s not. I view it as a savy business move on his part. That, I myself can respect. I don’t hate on people for improving thier lot in life. Or for trying something different.
V
What the…HE HASN’T DONE SHIT YET. He hasn’t even dieted back down yet you are giving him props for getting fat due to possible publicity he may get when he finally does.
Yes, there are many people clueless enough to think this means something. Yes, actually making a business decision based on this MAY be good business if it works…but until it does, this is one dumb ass move. I could see if he used this to actually bulk up and gain some muscle, but how is it helping anyone else for him to quit training and become really fat?
If he gets a tv show deal out of it, great. THEN it will be a great business move. If this is the end of his 15 minutes of fame, then no, it was just one guy who got lazy on purpose so he could spend more time eating frosted donuts.
I’m sure many people told Bill Gates he was a dumbass for dropping out of college (harvard?) and starting his own “computer” business. Wol is right, you are negative and you seem to think someone doing something out of the box automatically means it is stupid. Hate to tell you, but most of the great people who have ever lived in this world, had people like you around to tell them they were dumb losers the whole way. Am I saying this kid is going to be great? No but i’m also not going to tell him he is a loser for taking a chance and doing something unique.
V
Ridiculous. Do you known how many people drop out of school who do NOT become Bill Gates?[/quote]
Do you know how many people tried to find the new world before Columbus suceeded? Whats your point? Just because some people try things out of the box and fail, does not mean everyone should not try things out of the box. It’s not that what I think he did was awsome or anything, I already have said this, but I am a positive person and I hope it helps him and others out. You hope he fails or already think he has and for that, you fail.
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[quote]Vegita wrote:
Do you know how many people tried to find the new world before Columbus suceeded? Whats your point? [/quote]
The point is, following what the rare singular elite do and expecting the same success to come of it when the originals largely succeeded because of good timing and being in the right place at the right time (or in Columbus’ case being in the WRONG place at the right time), is ludicrous. Most college drop outs will NOT become Bill Gates. Columbus thought he was in fucking India.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Vegita wrote:
Do you know how many people tried to find the new world before Columbus suceeded? Whats your point?
The point is, following what the rare singular elite do and expecting the same success to come of it when the originals largely succeeded because of good timing and being in the right place at the right time (or in Columbus’ case being in the WRONG place at the right time), is ludicrous. Most college drop outs will NOT become Bill Gates. Columbus thought he was in fucking India.
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Yup exactly, sometimes you just gotta go for it and hope the universe has it in the cards that you will be the one to succeed. Of course you could always live a safe, normal boring life, but then you will never do great things. So it’s really a risk/reward thing. The guy in question took a risk for potential of greater reward.
V
You guys should just quell this dissension and touch tips already, including debraD and follow it up with some pike spinning or hell, jigging. What-eva works.
D
he lacks integrity. i guess soccer moms and fat officers don’t deserve to work with someone who takes their job seriously. it’s only time and money and it’s easy to turn fat into muscle then muscle into fat.
I think the guy looked pretty damn good before he gained the weight. I don’t think that gaining that amount of weight can be called an accomplishment. Its so easy to sit around, watch tv, and eat whatever comes your way. So easy. The pain in the ass part is avoiding all junk food, eating only healthy foods, and working out on a consistent basis even when you’ve had a long pain in the ass day at work, and just want to sit around and eat junk food.
I also think he will shed the weight much easier than people who had the predisposition to being fat. The guy lived his whole life as a skinny guy - him gaining weight now won’t give him that much insight into the mind/motivation of a fat person. There’s a huge psychological piece that he’s completely ignoring (and will never experience) - including growing up fat the majority of your life.
I don’t think we should be lauding some guy who just let himself go - seems to be successfully spinning it as a positive though.
V
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Are you guys going to touch tips now?[/quote]
I lol’d
[quote]debraD wrote:
I’m with Prof X. The guy is a jackass. What the hell is there to understand? What chafing feels like? I bet formerly fat guys who are now personal trainers are about a dime a dozen. Wouldn’t they be the ones who can really ‘relate?’[/quote]
I think you will find that most of the biggest loser contestants are now personal trainers and still have at least 15-20% bodyfat. At least that’s how it appears in Australia. A sad indictment when people are taking advice from people who had months to lose weight and train without needing to work and with their food/training etc all supplied to them for free and they still couldn’t get lean.
[quote]namor wrote:
debraD wrote:
I’m with Prof X. The guy is a jackass. What the hell is there to understand? What chafing feels like? I bet formerly fat guys who are now personal trainers are about a dime a dozen. Wouldn’t they be the ones who can really ‘relate?’
I think you will find that most of the biggest loser contestants are now personal trainers and still have at least 15-20% bodyfat. At least that’s how it appears in Australia. A sad indictment when people are taking advice from people who had months to lose weight and train without needing to work and with their food/training etc all supplied to them for free and they still couldn’t get lean.[/quote]
Most of the PT’s here look like they belong on the biggest loser. Sad state of affairs the industry is in.
you have to admit its brilliant! The movie making part at least. Im impressed hes willing to risk his body which for most people is prized and throw it away for a while atleast. I can promise it will be bring him alot of money…not only what he gets from the movie but the amount of money people will pay to train with him if he succeeds