[quote]Headhunter wrote:
It’s men like Rainjack, Jeff, and Zeb who built this country. Its men like this who join the marines or the local swat team, and keep you safe in your little liberal enclaves.
[/quote]
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa
Of all the incredibly stupid shit you’ve said on this forum, that tops it all by a pretty good stretch. Careful how you suck up HH, zebbie might think you’re a fag and won’t want to be your friend anymore.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
I am glad that I embarass you. It means I am pissing liberal dill holes off. The more I piss off the more virgins I get to sleep with in heaven.
We aren’t in the minority. Pack up, sparky. [/quote]
I’m not really into the internet forum insults thing, but rainjack, does it really make you glad to piss off other people? I like that you didn’t deny you were a dick, just asserted that the dicks weren’t in the minority…
I think there’s a big difference between making a point, contributing to debate or even challenging someone to defend their point of view - but if you genuinely just get pleasure from pissing people off I would venture you’ve not got the fullest or most rewarding of lives right now.
Can I suggest you take up knitting? Birdspotting? Anything to cheer you up and be able to enter debate with an open mind. Or is an open mind of the teaching calender as well now?
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Sure, you can teach them some technical skills. But don’t you expect them also to learn somehting about history, religion, ethics, law, justice? How would you be able to do that without teaching them to formulate their own thoughts?
[/quote]
I have expected that for years, at any level of schooling - and as soon as schools start accomplishing such teaching, someone let me know.
A good ‘liberal arts’ education - critical thinking, etc. - should teach people how to ask better question, not send them out into the world thinking they have all the answers to all the social problems that have ever plagued humanity. Education versus indoctrination.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
…
A good ‘liberal arts’ education - critical thinking, etc. - should teach people how to ask better question, not send them out into the world thinking they have all the answers to all the social problems that have ever plagued humanity. Education versus indoctrination.
…
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Can’t blame schools or education. That’s human nature.
I know at the age of 20, I was very smart and had all the answers.
At the same time I did manage to piss off my teachers by asking the wrong question though.
[quote]1-packlondoner wrote:
I’m not really into the internet forum insults thing, but rainjack, does it really make you glad to piss off other people? I like that you didn’t deny you were a dick, just asserted that the dicks weren’t in the minority…[/quote]
Dick is a subjective term. If someone whose ideas I despise thinks I am a dick - what exactly does that mean? Should I waste my time defending my non-dickiness? Should I lose sleep worrying what a sandal wearing, hemp smoking liberal thinks about me?
Read the transcript, junior. He attacked me first. To my knowledge - I had never engaged the cali-lib before he called me a dick. If I piss people off - tough shit. I have been doing it for a long time, and I make no apologies for it.
Try your Dr. Phil schtick out on someone else. I would have to genuinely give a shit about you before I would even consider listening to your opinions of my personal life. I don’t so I won’t.
Please define open mind as it pertains to this thread. It is a very subjective term that needs a definition before accusations can be thrown about.
Why don’t you consider minding your own fucking business? If you have something to say wrt the topic at hand, that would be nice. If not - start your own thread and get the fuck out of this one.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
knewsom wrote:
Assholes like rainjack and JeffR truly make me embarrased to be an American, and I hope that any Europeans reading this thread realize that dicks like them are in a minority in this country - if they weren’t, I’d move.
You’ll never move. You know where you’re safe. It’s men like Rainjack, Jeff, and Zeb who built this country. Its men like this who join the marines or the local swat team, and keep you safe in your little liberal enclaves.
Stay where the MEN are, boy. You’ll live a lot longer.
[/quote]
What part of the service were you in?
Because the other three did not serve, to the best of my knowledge.
[quote]hspder wrote:
JeffR,
I hope you feel really proud about yourself. Maybe you should start sending job applications to Fox News – you’d be great as Bill O’Reilly’s personal assistant!
[/quote]
Hey, spank-der!!!
I trully appreciate your input on this and every other subject.
First of all, it didn’t escape my notice that you avoided confronting my facts.
Second, it’s probably better that you not engage me in intellectual disputes:
I do have four PHD’s. They were all on the side. I am also fabulously wealthy. I currently teach economics as a second job. It’s my fall-back career.
The first, took the longest: 2.5 years. The next three took 1.5 years.
My first PHD was the most difficult: It was titled, “Jessica Hahn: Silicon in a less than complex system.”
The last three were the easiest. They were just economics.
I figured that I could use my vast knowledge in economics to get a lucrative career AS A PROFESSOR!!! It’s the way to riches.
Therefore, I’m an authority on everything.
Seriously, I love how threatened you are by Fox news. I do hope you realize that people like you help drive up Fox’s viewership. If spank-der doesn’t like Fox, it must be on the right track.
I’d rather work for al franken. I hear he’s doing very well. He has a vast following. Finances are good. His message is positive. I like how he performs services to the community. franken is always looking out for the people. His actions on the part of abused children trully show what a selfless individual he is.
In short, he’s a champion of the less fortunate. For this, he has my undying respect.
Thanks, spank-der. I enjoy laughing at your expense.
JeffR
[quote]knewsom wrote:
Assholes like rainjack and JeffR truly make me embarrased to be an American, and I hope that any Europeans reading this thread realize that dicks like them are in a minority in this country - if they weren’t, I’d move.[/quote]
Hey, know-nothing!!!
I wanted to send you a special e-kiss!!!
I sincerely hope that you give some thought to moving. If your welfare checks have run out, give me a call. I’d be happy to buy you a ticket to paris.
You are welcome!!!
JeffR
[quote]JeffR wrote:
Hey, know-nothing!!!
I wanted to send you a special e-kiss!!!
I sincerely hope that you give some thought to moving. If your welfare checks have run out, give me a call. I’d be happy to buy you a ticket to paris.
You are welcome!!!
JeffR
Hey,
[/quote]
If you ever met someone making more money than you AND being more “liberal” than you, would your head explode?
You make it sound as if “liberalism” is a disease caused by lack of money…
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Read the transcript, junior. He attacked me first. To my knowledge - I had never engaged the cali-lib before he called me a dick. If I piss people off - tough shit. I have been doing it for a long time, and I make no apologies for it.
Try your Dr. Phil schtick out on someone else. I would have to genuinely give a shit about you before I would even consider listening to your opinions of my personal life. I don’t so I won’t.
Can I suggest you take up knitting? Birdspotting? Anything to cheer you up and be able to enter debate with an open mind. Or is an open mind of the teaching calender as well now?
Please define open mind as it pertains to this thread. It is a very subjective term that needs a definition before accusations can be thrown about.
Why don’t you consider minding your own fucking business? If you have something to say wrt the topic at hand, that would be nice.
If not - start your own thread and get the fuck out of this one.
[/quote]
lol. Great points - articulately made. Like I said, I’m not into anonymous e-arguments or ‘who got the reddest neck’ contests as frankly it’s rather banal - the points I previously made in this thread were in response to comments about Europe and France which were largely ignorant and so I was making the case for them.
By open mind I mean a willingness to engage in debate rather than jingoistic rhetoric and chest-beating, referring to anyone who disagrees with you as a lib likes it’s a dirty word.
For the record it IS possible to be proud of your country without approving of every action your Government makes.
Oh, and Junior? Who you calling Junior? Patronising git. But then you would have to genuinely give a shit about me before considering listening to my opinions.
Anyway. I’m done. Have a lovely day.
[quote]1-packlondoner wrote:
Wow, there’s a lot of people great at cutting and pasting to make their arguments. Just think, if you’d been taught ‘critical thinking’ you probably could have made your points yourselves with both a dash of originality and without having to resort to insults and name-calling. But I digress…[/quote]
Hey, packlondoner. I wanted to thank you for the pleasure you are giving me. It isn’t often that one of the “90%” of your friends actually has the guts to have their ignorance challenged. I’m serious. It takes guts to come on to a forum where your stale ideas are subject to criticism. You and I both know that most of your friends will cloister themselves in an insulated world peopled by others who agree with them. You, on the other hand, have had the fortitude to vomit up your sterotypes and misconceptions for all to see.
I sincerely thank you.
Now let’s get to it!!! As far as the name calling thing goes, I do believe your first post was full of said insults. If memory serves, I saw “petulant,” “teenager,” and some very unkind swipes at our leadership.
If you are shy about being insulted, it might not be a good idea to cast the first stone.
Now, as far as the cut and paste crap. In an argument with most adults, “feelings” won’t get you very far. If you make a statement, aka…Europe did most of the fighting and the Americans only came in at the end, you are going to have to defend it with facts. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings with the intellectual boning, but this is how one learns.
Excellent.
That’s much more palatable. Your first post was far different. It gave no credit to the Americans working and dying prior to war being declared.
Oh, have you ever heard of the Eagle Squadron? American pilots fighting from September 1940 on during your Blitz.
Exactly my beef with your first post. It ignored and belittled the Americans.
Listen to our democrats/revisionists with a grain of salt.
I hope not.
Oops, an insult!!! I know you are aware of OUR culture.
I thought you guys were mature adults? Don’t you guys work things out reasonably?
Oh, wait. Damn it. Those pesky European Union discussions.
This would be a nice time for a 2003 cut and paste job. Trust me, I could prove you wrong on the 90% number in your own country.
I believe you on this one. Fortunately, I don’t move in your “Love, not oil” crowd. Therefore, I’ll have to take your anectodal reference at face value.
I saw you in this recent demonstration:
From UK indymedia:
Valentine’s Day Protests
Just before Valentine’s Day on Sat 11th Feb, around 600 people took part in Reclaim Love III, providing a counter-point to the greeting card and gift frenzy of Feb 14th - partying at Eros statue in Piccadilly, London - saying ‘Love not oil is the most important resource in the world’
Again, need some March 2003 information. Thanks.
You might want to avoid Middle-America. They don’t share many of your values. You are likely to be called on your many misunderstandings of history.
Finally, I’m not surprised that you’ve only been to the coasts. Birds of a feather.
You are unpatriotic if you publically and privately wish for our defeat in Iraq.
My friend. I’m going to try and be gentle here. I didn’t need my government to tell me anything at all to convince me that Iraq had to be dealt with. Seriously, the pattern was there for anyone to put together. There was going to be a day of reckoning.
Blair and Bush could have said that saddam had wings, and it still wouldn’t have changed the fact that he supported al qaeda, terrorists in Palestine, tried to assassinate our President, used oil to bribe world leaders, butchered, raped, maimed his people in wood chippers, fired on our planes, started two large conflicts in the Middle East, was openly flaunting international law and the peace treaty he signed. The list goes on and on and on.
No amount of “I hate the party in power” crap would change any of that.
Our unemployment figures are extremely low. Work to be had.
Are you blaming the United States for the sociopathic acts of saddam hussein?
You could give me uranium shells, and I wouldn’t fire them at the local hippies.
This might be a good time to ask you to watch more than one U.S. news source.
You do have a knack of picking up on democratic talking points.
HALLIBURTON!!! If you knew what you were talking about, you would realize that Halliburton was the only company with the know-how to get the job done. If you had a clue about this issue, you would be able to recall the many instances where our democrats called solely on Halliburton because they were the best for the situation.
I’m going to give it to you plain: If George Bush said that the Easter Bunny laid an egg that said, “invade Iraq,” it still would have been the right thing to do. I’ve been kind enough to write you a list of reasons. Any one of those could have justified the invasion.
Well, now. That’s another nice, little insult. I have you at many disadvantages. One of which, is that I’ve travelled extensively in Great Britain. I didn’t confine myself to one area. Even if I had, I probably wouldn’t have made such an absurd generalization.
Our culture, science, art, and music are the glory of the human race. People die every day trying to reach our shores. To distill our greatness down to supermarket chains, illustrates your breath-taking myopia.
What a bunch of rubbish. Shall we talk about the Balkans? Shall we talk about your bloody riots? Shall we talk about some of your members excluding Turkey from the EU? Shall we talk about the rise of Muslim anti-semitism in Europe?
Tell it to our lefties. The rest of us know the truth.
They did a nice job of hiding it when I was there. Seriously.
I could think of plenty of reasons. You’d have to add getting in the way of lucrative oil contracts with sociopathic dictators. Exposing corruption, bribery, and malfeasance at the highest levels of european government. Exposing hypocrisy with regard to religion.
Shall I go on?
[quote]Re the reply to my little bodyfat joke - ‘Barely enough to sustain life?’ WTF? lol
Only cos you lot ate all the food you fat cheeseburger-eating motherfuckers. JOKE!
[/quote]
Funny, but not relevant.
Thanks again for everything. I hope you take the time to realize that there are other voices. You haven’t done yourself a favor living in an insular environment. I hope you are mature enough to learn from others.
JeffR
[quote]JeffR wrote:
1-packlondoner wrote:
Wow, there’s a lot of people great at cutting and pasting to make their arguments. Just think, if you’d been taught ‘critical thinking’ you probably could have made your points yourselves with both a dash of originality and without having to resort to insults and name-calling. But I digress…
Hey, packlondoner. I wanted to thank you for the pleasure you are giving me. It isn’t often that one of the “90%” of your friends actually has the guts to have their ignorance challenged. I’m serious. It takes guts to come on to a forum where your stale ideas are subject to criticism. You and I both know that most of your friends will cloister themselves in an insulated world peopled by others who agree with them. You, on the other hand, have had the fortitude to vomit up your sterotypes and misconceptions for all to see.
I sincerely thank you.
Now let’s get to it!!! As far as the name calling thing goes, I do believe your first post was full of said insults. If memory serves, I saw “petulant,” “teenager,” and some very unkind swipes at our leadership.
If you are shy about being insulted, it might not be a good idea to cast the first stone.
Now, as far as the cut and paste crap. In an argument with most adults, “feelings” won’t get you very far. If you make a statement, aka…Europe did most of the fighting and the Americans only came in at the end, you are going to have to defend it with facts. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings with the intellectual boning, but this is how one learns.
Too many point to reply to actual quotes but I’ll address a couple.
Excellent.
That’s much more palatable. Your first post was far different. It gave no credit to the Americans working and dying prior to war being declared.
Oh, have you ever heard of the Eagle Squadron? American pilots fighting from September 1940 on during your Blitz.
Get pissed off all you like - It’s a fact. I never said you weren’t welcome once you were there but to ignore or belittle the efforts of everyone else that fought and died is an insult to their memory.
Exactly my beef with your first post. It ignored and belittled the Americans.
Maybe the revisionist history idea means that EVERY country maintains they were responsible for winning it.
Listen to our democrats/revisionists with a grain of salt.
Maybe even Germany is now saying they wre on our side against those pesky Austrians. lol
I hope not.
2)There is another prevailing attitude I’m discovering which is treating Europe like it’s a single entity. Many many countries with different languages, cultures (you know that word?)
Oops, an insult!!! I know you are aware of OUR culture.
and religions make up the EU, and its only natural that they have different priorities. Of course there will be disagreements - Do you always get on with South and Cetral America? Err…? That’ll be a big NO then.
I thought you guys were mature adults? Don’t you guys work things out reasonably?
Oh, wait. Damn it. Those pesky European Union discussions.
3)Re who didn’t want to go to war. Every news poll,
This would be a nice time for a 2003 cut and paste job. Trust me, I could prove you wrong on the 90% number in your own country.
every person I have spoken to
I believe you on this one. Fortunately, I don’t move in your “Love, not oil” crowd. Therefore, I’ll have to take your anectodal reference at face value.
I saw you in this recent demonstration:
From UK indymedia:
Valentine’s Day Protests
Just before Valentine’s Day on Sat 11th Feb, around 600 people took part in Reclaim Love III, providing a counter-point to the greeting card and gift frenzy of Feb 14th - partying at Eros statue in Piccadilly, London - saying ‘Love not oil is the most important resource in the world’
Again, need some March 2003 information. Thanks.
Again - not opinion - FACT. I won’t talk for the US because I’ve only been to the coasts and I hear Middle-America was largely pro-war but still…
You might want to avoid Middle-America. They don’t share many of your values. You are likely to be called on your many misunderstandings of history.
Finally, I’m not surprised that you’ve only been to the coasts. Birds of a feather.
There’s a train of thought that if you publicly disagree with the war in the US you are branded unpatriotic, whereas over here you can complain all you want about it and they’ll still do whatever the hell they want. Not sure which is worse…
You are unpatriotic if you publically and privately wish for our defeat in Iraq.
Yes your Government lies.
My friend. I’m going to try and be gentle here. I didn’t need my government to tell me anything at all to convince me that Iraq had to be dealt with. Seriously, the pattern was there for anyone to put together. There was going to be a day of reckoning.
Blair and Bush could have said that saddam had wings, and it still wouldn’t have changed the fact that he supported al qaeda, terrorists in Palestine, tried to assassinate our President, used oil to bribe world leaders, butchered, raped, maimed his people in wood chippers, fired on our planes, started two large conflicts in the Middle East, was openly flaunting international law and the peace treaty he signed. The list goes on and on and on.
No amount of “I hate the party in power” crap would change any of that.
So does mine. It is part and parcel of government. It doesn’t have to be some Area 51 conspiracy. It’s massaging unemployment figures.
Our unemployment figures are extremely low. Work to be had.
It’s, I don’t know, bankrolling a regime and then saying they are evil once they are strong enough to stand on their own two feet and don’t need you anymore.
Are you blaming the United States for the sociopathic acts of saddam hussein?
You could give me uranium shells, and I wouldn’t fire them at the local hippies.
It’s awarding billions of dollars worth of construction and oil contracts to all your old buddies and contributors and saying God said we should go to war.
This might be a good time to ask you to watch more than one U.S. news source.
You do have a knack of picking up on democratic talking points.
HALLIBURTON!!! If you knew what you were talking about, you would realize that Halliburton was the only company with the know-how to get the job done. If you had a clue about this issue, you would be able to recall the many instances where our democrats called solely on Halliburton because they were the best for the situation.
I’m going to give it to you plain: If George Bush said that the Easter Bunny laid an egg that said, “invade Iraq,” it still would have been the right thing to do. I’ve been kind enough to write you a list of reasons. Any one of those could have justified the invasion.
As for everyone saying how crap Europe is - the most absurd assertion I have ever heard. Unless of course art, history and culture have no meaning and you mean they’re crap because there’s not a Target or Cinabun every 100 yards.
Well, now. That’s another nice, little insult. I have you at many disadvantages. One of which, is that I’ve travelled extensively in Great Britain. I didn’t confine myself to one area. Even if I had, I probably wouldn’t have made such an absurd generalization.
Our culture, science, art, and music are the glory of the human race. People die every day trying to reach our shores. To distill our greatness down to supermarket chains, illustrates your breath-taking myopia.
Yes, Britain and Europe has been responsible for some pretty terrible things in history but that’s my point. Collectively we have grown up and are waiting for you to do the same.
What a bunch of rubbish. Shall we talk about the Balkans? Shall we talk about your bloody riots? Shall we talk about some of your members excluding Turkey from the EU? Shall we talk about the rise of Muslim anti-semitism in Europe?
Tell it to our lefties. The rest of us know the truth.
To sum up, Britain is America’s closest ally and if you ask the man on the street over here you will find that we (although not me as I have American family) don’t like you very much at all. Seriously. Not joking.
They did a nice job of hiding it when I was there. Seriously.
So what does that say about the way the rest of the world feels? Are you honestly so full of hubris that you think that all stems from jealousy and not from your Government’s actions and foreign policy?
I could think of plenty of reasons. You’d have to add getting in the way of lucrative oil contracts with sociopathic dictators. Exposing corruption, bribery, and malfeasance at the highest levels of european government. Exposing hypocrisy with regard to religion.
Shall I go on?
Re the reply to my little bodyfat joke - ‘Barely enough to sustain life?’ WTF? lol
Only cos you lot ate all the food you fat cheeseburger-eating motherfuckers. JOKE!
Funny, but not relevant.
Thanks again for everything. I hope you take the time to realize that there are other voices. You haven’t done yourself a favor living in an insular environment. I hope you are mature enough to learn from others.
JeffR
[/quote]
Hi again,
Very interesting post and good to hear you elaborate more on the points you made.
V quickly, as to my news sources - I am a TV Producer and have worked in the news and on current affairs shows - I have also seen news feeds that no-one was allowed to broadcast regarding what is going on in Afghanistan and Iraq - I really don’t feel my opinions have been formed due to the lack of knowledge but I think it’s fairly safe to say we are coming at this from two diametrically opposed viewpoints and that neither will give an inch.
Was about to point-by-point respond to the points you brought up that I took issue with but then thought you will just do the same back and then I will and so on and so forth.
Can’t be fucked with all this so I’ll just say that let’s all be friends and agree to disagree, leaving it for my part with the big question -
Post Gulf War 2, which we didn’t need to have, is the world a safer place or a less safe place? Answers on a postcard…
PS Can’t believed you called me a hippy. lol - Total insult to my T-man status. I EAT hippies. Laters
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
knewsom wrote:
Assholes like rainjack and JeffR truly make me embarrased to be an American, and I hope that any Europeans reading this thread realize that dicks like them are in a minority in this country - if they weren’t, I’d move.
You’ll never move. You know where you’re safe. It’s men like Rainjack, Jeff, and Zeb who built this country. Its men like this who join the marines or the local swat team, and keep you safe in your little liberal enclaves.
Stay where the MEN are, boy. You’ll live a lot longer.
[/quote]
…acutally it’s men like ME who join the marines as well - you don’t have to be a total idiot and an asshole to be tough. One of my best friends who is on the EXACT SAM IDEOLOGICAL PLANE as I am has won several combat medals in the war in Iraq, and is currently stationed in Djibouti.
Being a dick doesn’t make you a man. it makes you a jerk.
[quote]1-packlondoner wrote:
2)There is another prevailing attitude I’m discovering which is treating Europe like it’s a single entity. Many many countries with different languages, cultures (you know that word?) and religions make up the EU, and its only natural that they have different priorities. Of course there will be disagreements - Do you always get on with South and Cetral America? Err…? That’ll be a big NO then.
[/quote]
Aren’t you the one who jumped into this thread (about a GERMAN AND FRENCH textbook being anti-American)acting as if it somehow applied to England?
[quote]doogie wrote:
Aren’t you the one who jumped into this thread (about a GERMAN AND FRENCH textbook being anti-American)acting as if it somehow applied to England?[/quote]
HI Doogie,
I was responding to comments made in replies to the original topic, which spoke about Europe (of which the UK is a part - currency aside) and which I felt were ignorant in their descriptions of countries being morally and artistically bankrupt, and of what I perceived as broader general opinions which came across as though ‘we saved your arse in the war and so you owe us when we want to go to war again’ which I felt belittled the memories of the many millions who had fought from other nations in WW2 and lost far more in terms of numbers/homes etc.
As for the pamphlet itself…
I’m British and I’m proud of it. That said, I do not have any issue with people criticising the actions of my Government when they are wrong. It appears not everyone feels that way. Or rather, and I’m being diplomatic here, not everyone feels/sees when their Government DOES act inappropriately.
Hope that’s all cleared up. Maybe I’ll stick to telling T-vixens how pretty they look from now on in.
Peace.
[quote]knewsom wrote:
Being a dick doesn’t make you a man. it makes you a jerk.[/quote]
First off - thank you for your service to our counrty.
Second of all - define being a dick. And while you are at it - are all dicks jerks?
Does that also mean that all jerks are dicks?
What is a man by your definition?
And finally - why do you think anyone cares whether you think I am a dick or not?
Has it accomplished anything by calling me a dick? Has it shut me up? Has it made me tuck my tail in shame and slink off into the corner? Short answer to all three - no. no. and no.
[quote]1-packlondoner wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Just look at the crap in France. Short work weeks, tons of vacation, huge social services…
Yeah… Sounds terrible. lol
LA Riots and recent post-Katrina New Orleans looks like grand demonstrations of the perfect model of dealing with the poor or unemployed. I think it’s safe to say we all have our problems…[/quote]
You missed all the bad shit that goes hand in hand with this entitlement mentality.
The LA and Katrina riots were smaller in scale than the thousands of cars burned in France. in particular the reports of crime problems post Katrina were incredibly overblown.
From the phony rape report in the Superdome to the phony report of the shots fired at the helicopter most of the initial reports were wrong.
I assume the French were capable of actually counting the thousands of cars burned.
France has screwed themselves royally
[quote]rainjack wrote:
knewsom wrote:
Being a dick doesn’t make you a man. it makes you a jerk.
First off - thank you for your service to our counrty.
Second of all - define being a dick. And while you are at it - are all dicks jerks?
Does that also mean that all jerks are dicks?
What is a man by your definition?
And finally - why do you think anyone cares whether you think I am a dick or not?
Has it accomplished anything by calling me a dick? Has it shut me up? Has it made me tuck my tail in shame and slink off into the corner? Short answer to all three - no. no. and no.[/quote]
I think you misread me - I am not actually a serviceman, but a good friend of mine who shares my same ideology IS. (I actually WOULD be in the Coast Guard, but was denied because I had Asthma). In any case, I thank you for your support of our hard working dedicated and courageous men and women in uniform.
As far as me calling you a dick, I wasn’t CALLING you a dick. I was merely stating a fact, that you ARE a dick, and it wasn’t directed at you. My “goal” was not to send you whimpering into the corner with your tail tucked between your legs - it was simply a statement of fact to our dear European allies and friends not to take what some Americans (sadly, the loudest) say too seriously, because they really don’t represent the entire country.
And as for whether or not anybody cares if I think you’re a dick, obviously you do, or else you wouldn’t have said anything.
As for what makes a man, it’s more than having a dick, it’s integrity, accountability, honesty, kindness, and courage, to name a few qualities of the men I respect.
[quote]knewsom wrote:
…acutally it’s men like ME who join the marines as well - you don’t have to be a total idiot and an asshole to be tough.
[/quote]
followed with
[quote]
I think you misread me - I am not actually a serviceman, but a good friend of mine who shares my same ideology IS. (I actually WOULD be in the Coast Guard, but was denied because I had Asthma).[/quote]
What a douchebag. I’d be in the NFL but they denied me.
[quote]hspder wrote:
With the stuff people in America say about everyone else – including the Europeans – can you blame them for hating us back a little?[/quote]
Classic “Blame America First” retort of a true, U.S. hating American! Great…[quote]
We’ve slowly assimilating Europe for the past 60 years; [/quote]
Er, excuse me, buddy – but we saved their European backsides 60 years ago, remember? Remember a little “conflict” called WWII???
Without US – America – they would all be speaking German, hailing Hitler, and eating Schnitzel every day. The Europeans are simply ungrateful, forgetful, and full of themselves. They need our protection and trade, but hate us none-the-less. Our fault – I think not![quote]
today, American influences in everything, from Entertainment to Food, are obvious in just about every country in Europe, to a point where, except maybe for the language and slightly more leftist politics, Americans can almost fell at home over there. You can see American’s influence EVERYWHERE there.[/quote]
It is called the “Free Market.” If they like our entertainment, food, etc, they will buy it and so others will produce it. It is something called Capitalism – another aspect of our country that you love to hate.[quote]
The fact that most Americans are completely condescending towards Europeans just adds insult to injury.[/quote]
Oh, poor Euro babies… Wah, Wah , Wah…Again, you always blame America first! [quote]
All of this hurts their pride, so you can’t blame them for being a little pissed off.
At least the non-Muslim Europeans didn’t start burning American flags.
Yet.
Treat them with respect, and they will return in kind.[/quote]
Yeah right – not in your lifetime. I think we should have a “U.S. Boycott Europe Day.” Hey, if the illegals can do it, we should. That might teach those on the other side of “The Pond” what we really mean to them.
That said – stop hating your country and blaming us for every evil and other nations’ hate toward us. Start loving your Country!