Free Palestine (Music Video)

nd there’s always the beauty of education, thus:
INDOCTRINATING MUSLIM CHILDREN TO HATE JEWS

Young people throughout the Arab and Muslim world are taught – in their homes, schools, and mosques – to detest Jews and to view them as evil. The contents of the textbooks used in Palestinian Authority ¶ schools play a crucial role in inculcating this hatred.

The PA began publishing its own textbooks in 2000, to replace the Jordanian and Egyptian texts that had been previously used in its schools. In addition to promoting a contempt for factsâ??such as the legitimacy of the Israeli state, these texts are filled with derogatory references to Jews, and with calls for violent jihad to “liberate” Palestinians from their Jewish oppressors.

Purportedly as a gesture of good faith and conciliation, PA President Mahmoud Abbas agreed to have such items excised from the texts – a task he said would be completed in time for the start of the 2006-07 school year. But a 2006 study commissioned by the Israel-based Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center (an agency that had been consistently supportive of the Oslo Peace Process) found that scarcely any of the anti-Semitic references had actually been removed from the texts. The researchers found, for example, that in these “revised” books:

  1. Israel does not appear on any maps of the world. Where Israel should be, the maps substitute the name “Palestine.” All Jewish holy places in the country are presented as purely Islamic sites. Israeli cities, such as Haifa, are referred to as Arab cities. One 5th grade text, for instance, states that “Haifa is a Palestinian seaport.” Similarly, a 10th grade publication says that “Galilee, Nazareth and Beit She’an are regions in Palestine.”

  2. Jews, Israel, and Zionism are depicted as the treacherous, murderous enemies of the Palestinian people. For example, a 10th grade text titled Our Beautiful Language says: “There is no doubt that the Israeli occupation has a negative impact on [Palestinian] agriculture and its export.” According to a 5th grade text: “The Palestinian people are under an oppressive siege, limiting their movement and way of life.” Yet another 5th grade book says: “The Palestinian family has problems … stemming from the occupation … [I]t loses father, mother or son to death or imprisonment … [and] endures the difficulties of life.” In an 8th grade text, we find: â??Your [Jewish] enemies kill your children, split open womenâ??s bellies.â??

  3. One text falsely claims that an “extremist Zionist” set fire to the Al-Aqsa Mosque in 1969, when in fact the culprit was a mentally unstable Christian Australian.

  4. It is asserted that the only ancient inhabitants of Israel were Arabs; the ancient Jewish presence in the region is ignored.

  5. One 5th grade text extols a heroic Palestinian mother “who incessantly presents one sacrifice [fida’] after another” – a reference to her numerous sons, all of whom willingly become martyrs for the sake of their religion. Another 5th grade text says: “The fighter goes to battle with two happy ends in front of him – either victory or martyrdom.” A 10th grade book states: “Allah gave the people of this land … an important task: they must stand on the forefront of the Muslim campaign against their enemies.” And an 8th grade text informs its readers: “Your enemies seek life and you seek death… These drops of blood that flow from your bodies will be transformed into red fiery shooting stars that will come down on the heads of your enemies.”

Apart from what they read in their schoolbooks, Palestinian children also learn anti-Semitism from such popular publications as the Hamas children’s magazine Al-Fateh. This periodical commonly features stories and poems that glorify jihad and terrorist operations against Jews, who are depicted as “murderers of the prophets.” The magazine’s titular character, Al-Fateh (“The Conqueror”) is a boy who rides his horse while brandishing a drawn sword.

Palestinian children are also heavily influenced by what they see on television. For example, the official Hamas station, Al-Aqsa TV, uses a replica of Disneyâ??s Mickey Mouse to teach young viewers not only that they should despise Jews and Israel, but also that they must advance the global jihad by any means necessary. The squeaky-voiced mouse, named Farfur, refers to Israel as â??the oppressive invading Zionist occupation,â?? which the children must “resist” by means of armed struggle.

Adapted from “Texts of Hate,” by Arlene Kushner (March 13, 2008); "Erasing Israel, by David Bedein (September 26, 2006); “Hamas Children’s Magazine,” by C. Jacob (October 9, 2007); and “Hamas Steals Mickey Mouse Image to Teach Hate and Islamic Supremacy,”
by Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook (May 6, 2007).

or at least, education is a beautiful thing in most OTHER parts of the world…

Isn’t truth a bitch?

[quote]hwh89 wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]hwh89 wrote:
this is bigger than Palestine and the Aqsa, it’s about your fucken promised land. from the Nile river in Egypt, to the Euphrates river in Iraq. and the USA is helping you with your Masonic plan.[/quote]

They bought the land, stfu.[/quote]

fucking ZIONIST![/quote]

that’s right you antiSemitic f***!!
Zionists have sex lives!!

Oh, and they did buy the land, over and over and over. So much money has been extracted from the Jews over this piece of real estate by the Muslims, Turks, British and every other goatf***** that you could probably pay the US national debt three times over!!

[quote]hwh89 wrote:

Yeah right, like they’ll ever leave. Muslims are flooding Europe, America and canad and australia in immigration jihad to convert the world into a caliphate.

BTW, deathhead, Islam has killed 270 million people in its jihad with the west since its birth.

"One of the primary documents used in the Holy Land Foundation trial in 2008 was the â??Explanatory Memorandum: On the General Strategic Goal for the Groupâ??. It was written on May 22, 1991 by Mohamed Akram, and gave a brief description of the mission of the Muslim Brotherhood in the United States:

“The process of settlement is a â??Civilization-Jihadist Processâ?? with all the means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and â??sabotagingâ?? its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and Allahâ??s religion is made victorious over all other religions. [â?¦] It is a Muslimâ??s destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he isâ?¦”

The above is a clear declaration that the front organizations of the Muslim Brotherhood â?? CAIR, ISNA, ICNA, NAIT, MSA, IIIT, etc. â?? intended to â??bore from withinâ?? and overthrow American constitutional government by subverting our own institutions."
(from:
http://actforamerica.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/sabotaging-our-miserable-house/)

Just wondering deathuhead. Do you think no-one ever cracks a book or something?

nice try, no cigar.

[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Um, it was the arabs that rejected the 2 state solution and attacked Israel originally. So you mean that if they did it again Israel would have the right to defense? Why wasn’t the first time good enough?[/quote]

Are we talking about 1948 now or the six days war?

And I have heard the opposit, provide a good source to this claim.

ps. its a difference beetwen defence and occupation. Do you think civilians are
responsible for theire forefathers sins?

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Israel was invaded the day it declared independence after the British partition plan and anyone with any education at all knows it.

[quote]'nuffsaid wrote:

[quote]Egg Head wrote:
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hey egghead, if you’re going to boycott Israel, stop using any technology right this second!

You stupid f***, even the original idiot who called for the boycott of Israel doesn’t boycott iIsrael! Omar barghouti is getting a degree at Tel Aviv University while calling on everyone else to boycott israel!

I guess he doesn’t want competition for jobs, funding or education!

  • I used asterixes in the F-word because I wish to remain a lady nose in air[/quote]

It’s obvious you’re a Jewhating would-be murderer.

Oooooooooooooooooh, you ahte israel and you want Jews dead. big news, dickface.

You’ll notice that in your Nazi graphic there the Israeli flag is not diminishing in size despite the flames licking its edges.

Consider that as indicating the Israeli spirit, will and determination, pal!

Seriously, can there be more disgusting organisms around than you?

The idea that only one side hates the other is absolutely retarded. Calling Arab forces “terrorists” outside of actual terrorist activities is also incorrect and incredibly misleading. Terrorism is an act out to cause fear. A group dedicated to fighting Israel is not out to cause fear, they’re out to fight Israel. Terrorist attacks occur on BOTH SIDES.

I went to the river with some family, when a cousin told me not to cross a certain point, because you would be shot by an Israeli soldier if you did. One little boy did and the UN occupational forces (they’ve been th ere for a while, due to one conflict or another, at recent points in history) had to be called in, while he was forcefully dragged the hell out of there like he was going to explode any second. They have a very real fear of dying if they so much as cross an invisible line. Attacks are frequent, the most recent being in August, I believe.

Lebanon is, by the way, about 40% Christian, and 60% Muslim. This isn’t some kind of Islamic fundamentalist state, it’s well known for it’s tourism, and for housing various refugees, many of whom were kicked out of their homes by Israeli forces.

The USA is 76% Christian, if you need to make a comparison.

That is not to say that war, or physical attacks by either side is justified. It’s not. Arabs fucked up by attacking Israel, and we have to grow a pair and deal with the fucking consequences. Peace talks need to happen and agreements need to be made, and both sides are acting like stupid fucking cunts on the matter. I feel no sympathy towards anyone, regardless of race, who wants a person dead, and certainly not for reasons as ill conceived as race, religion, origin, or politics. I don’t care about Palestine. It was never a thing. Ever. I don’t care as to what could have been or almost was, my people need to grow the fuck up and move on.

The thing that pisses me off is the one sided view that all Arabs want nothing more than all the Jews dead, even if they only really hate Israel- and although their actions concerning Israel are not justified their hatred most certainly is. On top of this is the idea that they’re all terrorizing Israel, who most people believe did absolutely nothing to anger Arabs in return and are completely innocent. Conflicts have two fucking sides people, you can’t black and white this shit.

Then there’s the terrorist stereotype.

Which is not only drastically wrong

But very, very wrong. I haven’t read the article but the text isn’t what I want you to look at. You see that graph? That’s put together by data taken from the FBI. They link to the page.

That one pisses me off the most. Look, I agree the fighting is stupid, and I think both sides are absolute bigots, but there’s also an incredible bias towards one side of the conflict and it’s frustrating to say the least. A guy planned to set off a bomb in Portland, where I live, and went to the same college as I do. Everyone started talking about us Arab terrorists. For fucks sake he was Somalian. Mom told me to shave so nobody would know, because even for a dark skinned Lebanese I’m a very light skinned Arab and can pass for European. I didn’t, partially to spite her, but partially because I shouldn’t have to go around pretending to be something I’m not because others have their heads up their asses.

This conflict needs to end so that my Mom doesn’t have to worry about me getting assaulted on the bus every time I go back to college with some facial hair. It’s yet to happen yet, and it’s rare that I get shit from anyone that isn’t a friend of mine and so I’m kind of blessed in that regard, but I’m not deaf to the media either.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

Yeah, not Arab.

Muslim.

Just FYI, I’m half Syrian (from Lebanon) myself.[/quote]
That’s cool. My parents would go on trips with my aunts and uncles down to Syria for a short time to do… well I don’t actually know. They never took me. They could be bitmen.

Which would explain why my second cousin was thrown out of a fifth story window.

[quote]'nuffsaid wrote:
It’s obvious you’re a Jewhating would-be murderer.

Oooooooooooooooooh, you ahte israel and you want Jews dead. big news, dickface.

You’ll notice that in your Nazi graphic there the Israeli flag is not diminishing in size despite the flames licking its edges.

Consider that as indicating the Israeli spirit, will and determination, pal!

Seriously, can there be more disgusting organisms around than you?

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[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]apbt55 wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Yes, yes we know…you’re another white guy/Muslim/Palestinian who wants to kill the evil joos. Great that we established that.[/quote]

Are you against a free palestina?? Do you want them to be unfree??[/quote]

I’m confused what is not free?[/quote]

the people living in occupation in the area called palestine. [/quote]

In your view of a “free palestine”, what would happen to a Jew living there?[/quote]

nothing. [/quote]

I’m sorry, but this is just as inane as apbt55’s weird comment ‘I’m confused what is not free?’ above.

I get where you’re coming from from on the Israel/Palestine issue, and we probably agree on many points, but your ‘nothing’ comment just makes me cringe. It’s just too damned naive/idealistic.

As to the OP: Holy crap… globalize the Intifada… anti Zionist. Could it be more obvious?

Most reasonable people (of which there are few, we see a lot of “there is no Palestine”, even exemplified on this thread, and ditto - or even worse - wrt Israel) would agree that we need some sort of two-state solution.

But where in the name of Odin would any kind of border be drawn? Anyone got any tentatively reasonable suggestions on that?

To those Muslims who want the Jews out of Israel, then the Catholic Church wants the Roman/Byzantine Empire back. Which includes Palestine, you can have your shitty Mecca.

[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]apbt55 wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Yes, yes we know…you’re another white guy/Muslim/Palestinian who wants to kill the evil joos. Great that we established that.[/quote]

Are you against a free palestina?? Do you want them to be unfree??[/quote]

I’m confused what is not free?[/quote]

the people living in occupation in the area called palestine. [/quote]

In your view of a “free palestine”, what would happen to a Jew living there?[/quote]

nothing. [/quote]

Read about the history of what happened in Palestine on April 4â??7, 1920 and the anti-Jewish riots in the 1930’s, BEFORE there even was a State of Israel and see if there are any implications on what would happen in “free palestine” today.

edit…that’s April 4 through 7 btw.

It’s interesting that antisemitism is brought up in the Palestine-Israel *conflict if one were to take the Palestinian side of the argument because Arabs are Semites, so that makes it impossible for them to be so.

Its interesting as well that people consider that Palestinian Muslims were the only one displaced and therefore hate the “joos”, but many do not realize that there was an abundant Arab christian population there before the mass Jewish migration. For centuries Christians and Jews lived in relative peace alongside Muslims under the realm of the Islamic empires. Zionism was seen as another form of European colonial occupation. These Arabs do not detest Jews, but rather the process of Zionism.

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[quote]Shipshape wrote:
It’s interesting that antisemitism is brought up in the Palestine-Israel if one were to take the Palestinian side of the argument because Arabs are Semites, so that makes it impossible for them to be so.

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Who do you think you are, coming in here and bringing common sense into this, damn!

:slight_smile:

This is such a touchy subject. It’s often best approached with a multilateral view rather than sticking to a black and white, unilateral view because that shit accomplishes nothing.

[quote]Shipshape wrote:
For centuries Christians and Jews lived in relative peace alongside Muslims under the realm of the Islamic empires.

*edit[/quote]

I’d suppose that someone that was just conquered would live “peacefully.”

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Shipshape wrote:
For centuries Christians and Jews lived in relative peace alongside Muslims under the realm of the Islamic empires.

*edit[/quote]

I’d suppose that someone that was just conquered would live “peacefully.”[/quote]

I know that sectarian violence has been pervasive in that region of thousands of years but I’m countering the argument that Palestinians were unilaterally violent to Jews before the inception of Israel. The British promised the Sheiks who fought the Ottomans in WWI their tribal lands only to go back on the deal and surrender the land to a European cause (Jewish Zionism) with the Balfour agreement. It was Christians and Muslims alike who were displaced.

And the Gaza and Westbank are occupied territories. The occupation is recognized and is illegal under a few UN security resolutions.

At the same time, much of the land in Israel was legitimately bought by Jewish immigrants so dissolving Israel is in no way right or justified. A logical solution would be a “two-state” partition that would return the land captured by Israelis in the Six Day War to Palestine (Which Hamas is willing to commit to).

[quote]Shipshape wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Shipshape wrote:
For centuries Christians and Jews lived in relative peace alongside Muslims under the realm of the Islamic empires.

*edit[/quote]

I’d suppose that someone that was just conquered would live “peacefully.”[/quote]

I know that sectarian violence has been pervasive in that region of thousands of years but I’m countering the argument that Palestinians were unilaterally violent to Jews before the inception of Israel. The British promised the Sheiks who fought the Ottomans in WWI their tribal lands only to go back on the deal and surrender the land to a European cause (Jewish Zionism) with the Balfour agreement. It was Christians and Muslims alike who were displaced.

And the Gaza and Westbank are occupied territories. The occupation is recognized and is illegal under a few UN security resolutions.

At the same time, much of the land in Israel was legitimately bought by Jewish immigrants so dissolving Israel is in no way right or justified. A logical solution would be a “two-state” partition that would return the land captured by Israelis in the Six Day War to Palestine (Which Hamas is willing to commit to). [/quote]

Let me ask a question, if someone steals something, and you exchange money for it, is it yours?