We could just call them “college boys”.
Bye the way yes I was in a fraternity way back.
It’s just a stab at humor guys. Chill out.
Well, I have been asleep and/or busy for the last 14 hours. I knew as soon as I decided to state my position that I was in for a lot of abuse. And all of the wonderful respondents here have covered every possible base from which to rag on me. (With impeccable spelling and grammar.) One of you even got after my writing style. Now let this poorly trained, thin-skinned, insecure, unattractive, verbose, pink-polo-wearing frat boy try and clarify some things and calm some nerves. Please bear with the writing style as it has been ingrained through many years of prep school and university.
I have no animus against anyone on here, even the poor sucker who thinks he’s clever for being the umpteenth person to address me as “Carlton”. I personally do not train poorly, nor do I condone poor training habits when I see them. OK?
My previous posts ended up getting written because, like I said, there is a pattern of fraternity members being the butt of jokes regarding poor training (and all the ancillary forms of disrespect that have availed themselves thanks to posters who don’t like fraternities for more reasons than just training annoyances) in the world today. Clearly true, especially right now.
This post was the one on which I decided to act, not by itself but in the spirit of many others. Hopefully that understanding makes it clear that I do not have such a “chip on the shoulder”. So I stated why I believe it is wrong to make stereotypes like this. I never claimed that fraternity men suffered prejudice on the same scale as black people, only that the same type of reasoning was at work.
I overreacted to the specific situation at hand and I apologize to JMB for singling out his thread. It looks like no one is going to change their thoughts or actions, and I, like some of the fraternity alumni posting here, will just learn to ignore the misconceptions when they come. But just once, I wanted to get off my chest that it’s wrong to say such things. Thank you for the opportunity.
[quote]hedo wrote:
We could just call them “college boys”.
Bye the way yes I was in a fraternity way back.
It’s just a stab at humor guys. Chill out.[/quote]
NO don’t generalize everyone in college! haha… it’s funny, and probably true.
I can’t say that only idiots I see are frat guys, that is a gross understatement, there have been many non-greeks and greeks alike to perform “college curls” and “girl curls” in that squat rack.
Damn this is good!
Damn, I love free discourse.
[quote]dond1esel wrote:
I have no animus against anyone on here, even the poor sucker who thinks he’s clever for being the umpteenth person to address me as “Carlton”. I personally do not train poorly, nor do I condone poor training habits when I see them. OK?
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So am I still ignorant? 
Honestly, I fuck with everybody here – it’s kinda my way of saying hi. Didn’t mean to rile ya up there, tough guy. BTW, nice use of the word “animus”. The archaic… you must be in college. Good luck to you.
[quote]lothario1132 wrote:
So am I still ignorant?
Honestly, I fuck with everybody here – it’s kinda my way of saying hi. Didn’t mean to rile ya up there, tough guy. BTW, nice use of the word “animus”. The archaic… you must be in college. Good luck to you.[/quote]
Now I never said you were personally and wholly ignorant, just that your post at the time was. No need to apologize though, i’m not riled at all. Thanks for the props on ‘animus’, and college is great.
dond1esel, stop being a communist damnit. You know who cares about Fraternity stereotypes? Nobody. Oh, and I do have animus. I have two dogs and a turtle named Flash.
JMB- when one has been out of the frat house for a while and starting to sprout a gray hair or many, believe it, the laughter comes easy. It’s hard not to laugh at the stupid shit we tried and how much we got away with in those halcyon days of old. It’s also hard not to be amazed that our mortality rate wasn’t somewhere north of 50 percent, and we weren’t even all that wild.
Mis-spent youth with loads of T cursing through one’s veins and a frontal lobe not quite developed enough to know what to do with it makes for some great stories down the road.
obo,
This entire thread contradicts you, you lack anything constructive or funny to say, and you are late to the party to boot.
Now I am bowing out gracefully for the third and final time. Everyone, please feel free to hijack.
[quote]oboffill wrote:
dond1esel, stop being a communist damnit. You know who cares about Fraternity stereotypes? Nobody. Oh, and I do have animus. I have two dogs and a turtle named Flash. [/quote]
ha. you’re funny. How’s that workin’ out for ya, bein’ funny?
[quote]oboffill wrote:
dond1esel, stop being a communist damnit. You know who cares about Fraternity stereotypes? Nobody. Oh, and I do have animus. I have two dogs and a turtle named Flash. [/quote]
Wash your hands after you play with your turtle, or you’ll catch AIDS. I heard that somewhere.
Two things come to mind:
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That was a gracious apology on the part of dond1diesel, of which there are far too few found on these boards. He’s got my respect for that.
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Let’s re-define the term; it’s not that great, anyway. Fraternities can have T-Men (and sororities can have T-Women), so it isn’t accurate to use “frat” as a descriptive–fun, sure, but not accurate. So…we need a descriptive term that can be plunked down in front of “curl” or “squat” or whatever to describe a person whose form/ behavior/ clothing/ whatever is sub-par for T-Nation standards.
–moron curls (naah; doesn’t “flow”)
–punk curls (so long as Sid Vicious fans don’t jump me)
–jerk curls (but “jerk” suggests a movement that is sometimes legitimate–clean and jerk)
–NTN curls ("Not T-Nation; has the added benefit of being the opposite of TNT; kinda catchy, eh? Naah: too scientific!)
–E curls (denoting Estrogen Men, our polar opposites; hmmm.)
Anyone else?
People often do not like frat boys.
People often do not like preppies.
People often do not like jocks.
TC recently wrote an essay on the topic of HUBRIS.
Unfair or not, many people associate these groups with a massive dose of the HUBRIS.
The pink polo shirt flipped up collar fashion statement is classic PREPPY.
The preppy look has been around for a good 75 years now. This particular one, probably since Lacoste invented the Polo shirt back in France in the 1930s. (FYI: Lacoste was the number one ranked tennis player in the 1920s and is the guy who started drawing alligators on all of his shirts.)
Not all frat guys are preppies and not all preppies are frat guys. I would hazard a guess that most new england prep school students are preppies, but what do I know.
dond1esel, you are thin-skinned if something this insignificant is bothering you this much. Learn to relax and roll with the punches.
Plain English is a lot more effective in communication.
-Animus
SISSY CURLS
I can’t make up my mind whether or not I have sympathy for frat boys and all the abuse they get from us.
I would refer anyone who I’ve offended to the following:
CU,
Well, it’s a start.