[quote]pushharder wrote:
Translation: “I can’t think it through for myself. Society must lead me. I am puppet for society.”[/quote]
Hey Push, how’s my favorite Christian-in-name-only doing?
Serious Q’s: Is abortion “murder”?
If so, what should the punishment be?
Does everyone deserve to be a parent?
[quote]Stinkfist wrote:
Serious Q’s: Is abortion “murder”?
If so, what should the punishment be?
Does everyone deserve to be a parent?[/quote]
Abortion is homicide.
Whether it’s murder depends on other factors.
Murder then has several degrees with various ranges of punishments.
[quote]Edgy wrote:
Pregnant?
how the hell did this happen???[/quote]
I think it involved a lot of hip thrusting, but I am not sure. Clothes were definitely off though.
[quote]TooHuman wrote:
[quote]Stinkfist wrote:
Serious Q’s: Is abortion “murder”?
If so, what should the punishment be?
Does everyone deserve to be a parent?[/quote]
Abortion is homicide.
Whether it’s murder depends on other factors.
Murder then has several degrees with various ranges of punishments.[/quote]
Ok, then why is it still legal?
What are the other factors?
[quote]Stinkfist wrote:
[quote]TooHuman wrote:
[quote]Stinkfist wrote:
Serious Q’s: Is abortion “murder”?
If so, what should the punishment be?
Does everyone deserve to be a parent?[/quote]
Abortion is homicide.
Whether it’s murder depends on other factors.
Murder then has several degrees with various ranges of punishments.[/quote]
Ok, then why is it still legal?
What are the other factors?[/quote]
That’s a complicated answer that requires lots of exploration of human and american history.
The short answer is ignorance.
People like yourself are generally completely ignorant of the actual process of conception which was only well known in the past 20 years(well after roe vs wade) as well as being incapable of distinguishing between penal code definitions of murder, manslaughter etc… and the scientifically proven fact that abortion is the killing of a living homo sapiens organism.
Government and pseudogovernmental agerncies like the AMA and others cannot admit that abortion is homicide because it would lead to the inevitable conclusion that willful ignorance has led to so many homicides.
It would be akin to the revelation that black people weren’t sub-humans.
Eventually it will be treated like any other homicide, but it will take a long stride in progress like the abolition of slavery did and we’ll have to get over the hurdle of corporal punishment of children first.
In 10-20 years spanking children will be viewed as backwards as slavery and some time after that abortion will be viewed in the same way.
[quote]Stinkfist wrote:
[quote]TooHuman wrote:
[quote]Stinkfist wrote:
Serious Q’s: Is abortion “murder”?
If so, what should the punishment be?
Does everyone deserve to be a parent?[/quote]
Abortion is homicide.
Whether it’s murder depends on other factors.
Murder then has several degrees with various ranges of punishments.[/quote]
Ok, then why is it still legal?
What are the other factors?[/quote]
IMO it’s legal because sometimes it’s exceptionally convenient. The moral/legal arguments exist primarily to facilitate that convenience. Overly simplistic, maybe, but there it is.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]aeyogi wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]RampantBadger wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Normsky wrote:
[quote]tsantos wrote:
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[/quote]
have 8 daughters
[/quote]
Yowzer!!![/quote]
Thats a nightmare I did not know I had until, like, 30 seconds ago…[/quote]
How ironic it would be for you to have to train your little girls how not to be influenced by PUA tricks.
[/quote]
What I would tell them is that they indeed could be influenced by those tricks and that a �??�??�??�?�°"good" woman does not frequent venues where the top dogs are douchebags.
I really do believe that this is the major difference, hypergamy cannot be negotiated with, but who is respected very much depends on the crowd you hang out with.
So, what I would tell them is to frequent venues where the top dogs are actually decent human beings. [/quote]
I quite agree with this and also with its reverse - if you want to meet a decent woman, frequent the places they congregate.
[/quote]
There is something to that but the difference is that men will not start to hamster away a womans multitude of flaws because she displays social dominance NO MATTER in what context, they will do that if she is hawt. [/quote]
Good women may go to “venues where the top dogs are douchebags” but they do not go there to find men. Not for one night stands, not for relationships.[/quote]
Maybe, but good girls will.
Maybe not specifically to find a man and get laid, it will “just happen”.
Unfortunately, now they have drunken from the poisoned well of the alpha douche. [/quote]
I disagree. Girls and women who go to bars or clubs to hang out with friends do just that. Girls with good friends have friends who don’t let them leave with strange men. That’s not about slut shaming, that’s about keeping one another safe; the buddy system.
I went to a real live big-city club Friday night with Hockey’s late-20s nephew and his wife, and was hoping to see the PU magic happen in real time. Unfortunately I didn’t observe anything interesting. There was one very pretty girl dancing alone by the bar in such a way as to suggest that she was open to approach, but there was also a bored looking guy sitting near and behind her, probably a boyfriend. She mostly looked lonely to me in comparison to the people there in groups, or with partners who were more engaged.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]aeyogi wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]RampantBadger wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Normsky wrote:
[quote]tsantos wrote:
[/quote]
[/quote]
have 8 daughters
[/quote]
Yowzer!!![/quote]
Thats a nightmare I did not know I had until, like, 30 seconds ago…[/quote]
How ironic it would be for you to have to train your little girls how not to be influenced by PUA tricks.
[/quote]
What I would tell them is that they indeed could be influenced by those tricks and that a �??�??�??�??�?�°"good" woman does not frequent venues where the top dogs are douchebags.
I really do believe that this is the major difference, hypergamy cannot be negotiated with, but who is respected very much depends on the crowd you hang out with.
So, what I would tell them is to frequent venues where the top dogs are actually decent human beings. [/quote]
I quite agree with this and also with its reverse - if you want to meet a decent woman, frequent the places they congregate.
[/quote]
There is something to that but the difference is that men will not start to hamster away a womans multitude of flaws because she displays social dominance NO MATTER in what context, they will do that if she is hawt. [/quote]
Good women may go to “venues where the top dogs are douchebags” but they do not go there to find men. Not for one night stands, not for relationships.[/quote]
Maybe, but good girls will.
Maybe not specifically to find a man and get laid, it will “just happen”.
Unfortunately, now they have drunken from the poisoned well of the alpha douche. [/quote]
I disagree. Girls and women who go to bars or clubs to hang out with friends do just that. Girls with good friends have friends who don’t let them leave with strange men. That’s not about slut shaming, that’s about keeping one another safe; the buddy system.
I went to a real live big-city club Friday night with Hockey’s late-20s nephew and his wife, and was hoping to see the PU magic happen in real time. Unfortunately I didn’t observe anything interesting. There was one very pretty girl dancing alone by the bar in such a way as to suggest that she was open to approach, but there was also a bored looking guy sitting near and behind her, probably a boyfriend. She mostly looked lonely to me in comparison to the people there in groups, or with partners who were more engaged.
[/quote]
If you see the PUA magic you are already dealing with an amateur.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]aeyogi wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]RampantBadger wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Normsky wrote:
[quote]tsantos wrote:
[/quote]
[/quote]
have 8 daughters
[/quote]
Yowzer!!![/quote]
Thats a nightmare I did not know I had until, like, 30 seconds ago…[/quote]
How ironic it would be for you to have to train your little girls how not to be influenced by PUA tricks.
[/quote]
What I would tell them is that they indeed could be influenced by those tricks and that a �??�??�??�??�??�?�°"good" woman does not frequent venues where the top dogs are douchebags.
I really do believe that this is the major difference, hypergamy cannot be negotiated with, but who is respected very much depends on the crowd you hang out with.
So, what I would tell them is to frequent venues where the top dogs are actually decent human beings. [/quote]
I quite agree with this and also with its reverse - if you want to meet a decent woman, frequent the places they congregate.
[/quote]
There is something to that but the difference is that men will not start to hamster away a womans multitude of flaws because she displays social dominance NO MATTER in what context, they will do that if she is hawt. [/quote]
Good women may go to “venues where the top dogs are douchebags” but they do not go there to find men. Not for one night stands, not for relationships.[/quote]
Maybe, but good girls will.
Maybe not specifically to find a man and get laid, it will “just happen”.
Unfortunately, now they have drunken from the poisoned well of the alpha douche. [/quote]
I disagree. Girls and women who go to bars or clubs to hang out with friends do just that. Girls with good friends have friends who don’t let them leave with strange men. That’s not about slut shaming, that’s about keeping one another safe; the buddy system.
I went to a real live big-city club Friday night with Hockey’s late-20s nephew and his wife, and was hoping to see the PU magic happen in real time. Unfortunately I didn’t observe anything interesting. There was one very pretty girl dancing alone by the bar in such a way as to suggest that she was open to approach, but there was also a bored looking guy sitting near and behind her, probably a boyfriend. She mostly looked lonely to me in comparison to the people there in groups, or with partners who were more engaged.
[/quote]
If you see the PUA magic you are already dealing with an amateur.
[/quote]
Exactly. When done properly, the magic is quite unremarkable to a casual observer. But then you find your self with your panties on the floor. (Not “you, EQ”, I mean a generic “you”)
It’s fun to see a group of PUA’s on the prowl. I used to be a “guest speaker” of sorts at a local “lair” in Washington DC back in the day. They would descend on this little bar in Adams Morgan called “The Reef” like clock work every Friday night. It was fucking hilarious! Some times I’d show up at the bar just to see the shit show of a bunch of creepy dudes getting rejected. They had a few guys who knew what they were doing, but for the most part, it was a bunch of freaks with their nails painted and “pea-cocked” out. Washington is a fairly conservative town, so it was always amusing to watch them fail to calibrate material that worked well in Southern California or New York. Then they’d complain that “ABC” didn’t know what they were doing, so I’m going to start following “XYZ”. Priceless entertainment.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]aeyogi wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]RampantBadger wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Normsky wrote:
[quote]tsantos wrote:
[/quote]
[/quote]
have 8 daughters
[/quote]
Yowzer!!![/quote]
Thats a nightmare I did not know I had until, like, 30 seconds ago…[/quote]
How ironic it would be for you to have to train your little girls how not to be influenced by PUA tricks.
[/quote]
What I would tell them is that they indeed could be influenced by those tricks and that a �??�??�??�??�??�??�?�°"good" woman does not frequent venues where the top dogs are douchebags.
I really do believe that this is the major difference, hypergamy cannot be negotiated with, but who is respected very much depends on the crowd you hang out with.
So, what I would tell them is to frequent venues where the top dogs are actually decent human beings. [/quote]
I quite agree with this and also with its reverse - if you want to meet a decent woman, frequent the places they congregate.
[/quote]
There is something to that but the difference is that men will not start to hamster away a womans multitude of flaws because she displays social dominance NO MATTER in what context, they will do that if she is hawt. [/quote]
Good women may go to “venues where the top dogs are douchebags” but they do not go there to find men. Not for one night stands, not for relationships.[/quote]
Maybe, but good girls will.
Maybe not specifically to find a man and get laid, it will “just happen”.
Unfortunately, now they have drunken from the poisoned well of the alpha douche. [/quote]
I disagree. Girls and women who go to bars or clubs to hang out with friends do just that. Girls with good friends have friends who don’t let them leave with strange men. That’s not about slut shaming, that’s about keeping one another safe; the buddy system.
I went to a real live big-city club Friday night with Hockey’s late-20s nephew and his wife, and was hoping to see the PU magic happen in real time. Unfortunately I didn’t observe anything interesting. There was one very pretty girl dancing alone by the bar in such a way as to suggest that she was open to approach, but there was also a bored looking guy sitting near and behind her, probably a boyfriend. She mostly looked lonely to me in comparison to the people there in groups, or with partners who were more engaged.
[/quote]
If you see the PUA magic you are already dealing with an amateur.
[/quote]
Exactly. When done properly, the magic is quite unremarkable to a casual observer. But then you find your self with your panties on the floor. (Not “you, EQ”, I mean a generic “you”)
It’s fun to see a group of PUA’s on the prowl. I used to be a “guest speaker” of sorts at a local “lair” in Washington DC back in the day. They would descend on this little bar in Adams Morgan called “The Reef” like clock work every Friday night. It was fucking hilarious! Some times I’d show up at the bar just to see the shit show of a bunch of creepy dudes getting rejected. They had a few guys who knew what they were doing, but for the most part, it was a bunch of freaks with their nails painted and “pea-cocked” out. Washington is a fairly conservative town, so it was always amusing to watch them fail to calibrate material that worked well in Southern California or New York. Then they’d complain that “ABC” didn’t know what they were doing, so I’m going to start following “XYZ”. Priceless entertainment.[/quote]
I dunno, I think I’d notice the kinos and the hair action and such. But perhaps not. It’s also possible that it occurred after my third drink, by which time I had other things on my mind.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
I’ll just say that I mostly agree.
[/quote]
All of your posts were deeply humbling to me. I am not worthy of your comments. I’m just a guy who stumbles through life. I rely on a pretty strict code of conduct seemingly written for my personal benefit that makes things work out OK, even when things should not. I’d like to say I’m a great guy, but I am really just a guy who can follow instructions and apply those instructions against my weaker nature.
OP — the consensus is that you are a troll. If so, that was pretty crappy thing to do. If you are, however, really in the situation you are in, my offer was 100% serious.
[quote]Stinkfist wrote:
[quote]TooHuman wrote:
[quote]Stinkfist wrote:
Serious Q’s: Is abortion “murder”?
If so, what should the punishment be?
Does everyone deserve to be a parent?[/quote]
Abortion is homicide.
Whether it’s murder depends on other factors.
Murder then has several degrees with various ranges of punishments.[/quote]
Ok, then why is it still legal?
What are the other factors?[/quote]
It is kept around because of racism and hedonism, the two pillars of the modern Democrat Party.
Margaret Sanger created Planned Parenthood to kill black children because she viewed blacks (and Jewish people and generally anyone swarthy) as inferior.
Liberals, for all their talk of “equality” hate and fear blacks. It’s why they keep them dependent on welfare, Obamaphones, and create a destructive hatred of Western Culture among blacks (witness the Fergeson nonsense). It’s all a deeply cynical ploy to keep blacks effectively enslaved.
Aborting black children partners nicely with baser libertine desires and freedom from real responsibility, which is the second pillar of modern liberalism — a paternal, all-encompassing, government that makes it possible to never grow up.
Jewbacca - have you ever read Thou Shall Prosper?
It’s a book about Jewish scripture and how it has resulted in the wealth of the Jewish people over thousands of years, written by a Rabbi.
Your mention of the principles you follow that seem to help you out reminded me of it. I found it to be an overall fascinating read, although some of the finer details of the scripture were a bit tedious for me to read.
Anyone read Freakonomics? In one chapter of the book, the author correlates decreased crime rates since the mid 90’s to the legalization of abortion 16 to 17 years prior to that time. If true, this makes the abortion discussion more interesting.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
I’ll just say that I mostly agree.
[/quote]
All of your posts were deeply humbling to me. I am not worthy of your comments.
[/quote]
Nope brother…you have seen more shit than all of us put together…you moved on after things that most of us would have curled up and given up. You and Dr. Wife keep on keeping on. Much respect.
Margaret Sanger, the lovable Hitler.
[quote]aeyogi wrote:
Anyone read Freakonomics? In one chapter of the book, the author correlates decreased crime rates since the mid 90’s to the legalization of abortion 16 to 17 years prior to that time. If true, this makes the abortion discussion more interesting.[/quote]
Seems like a pretty absurd correlation.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]aeyogi wrote:
Anyone read Freakonomics? In one chapter of the book, the author correlates decreased crime rates since the mid 90’s to the legalization of abortion 16 to 17 years prior to that time. If true, this makes the abortion discussion more interesting.[/quote]
Seems like a pretty absurd correlation.[/quote]
I could make the same correlation with lots of things. Maybe instead of abortion, crime is decreasing because we are getting fatter and have crossed the threshold were we have gotten so fat that we are to lazy to commit crimes.