My Pet Peeve (not really): T-mag staff that starts a thread to make fun of all of us!
My pet peeve would have to be those guys that post those damm topics that consume half of the forum and remain on the front page for a month…j/k 
Ok, I admit to one spelling slang word that I actually like. I really prefer to use thru as it seems to be a much more phonetic spelling of the word and seems to be clearer to me than through. Any thoughts on this one?
-Jason Norcross
Exactly what Chris Mangano said on his first post.
I don’t have a huge problem with misspellings, abbreviations or typos (but “ur” IS idiotic) but long or no paragraphs is just plain annoying to read esp. run-on sentences (without periods).
On a seperate note, Joel with all due respect, how did you become so knowledable in BBing and qualify to write articles? Aren’t you a 19 year-old who entered the BFL?
You are also correct.
Just got done reading TC’s Atomic Dog. Feel like the south end of a north bound dog for carrying this thread on for so long. These are just not real problems. My apologies to any I may have offended(Joel, Char, Patricia). Peace guys, I’m out.
TC, thanks for the reality check.
Joel, I don’t mean it as a flame at all. I actually enjoy your insights and articles ( I LOVE the 5X5).
I am actually interested on how you became so knowlegable and even got some articles published on T-mag. Can you please give a short bio?
The spelling “THRU,” advocated for over a century by various
spelling-reform groups is now used chiefly informally or in
headlines or signs. However, some periodicals use “THRU” as a standard variant, regardless of the context. Random House Webster’s College Dictionary
So using “THRU” should not carry the stigma that using “U” or “UR” does! Hope this answers your question.
I just learned everything that I could by reading, applying, and experimenting. If I’m curious about a topic, I get on pubmed and read about it and/or read the available literature from respectable sources. Although I’m an exercise science student, I don’t learn much in school, rather, most of the time I act as the “misinformation police,” disagree with most of what is taught as it’s way off. Some of the science, that doesn’t change is good to know, however. For example, exercise physiology was a beneficial class, and anatomy to a degree (but they get way way too in depth; most of it was useless info unless you plan on going to med school, etc).
I'm 20 now, was 19 when I won the contest, not that that says anything about my knowledge or makes me worth listening to, but it does give me a bit of pull in the professional world.
Those who know me or even those who have contacted me via email know that my true desire is to help others and see them succeed. That's why I post here; that's why I write; that is why my email address is available publically...bottom line.
Thanks buddy! Based on that and the fact that no one has ever commented negatively on my use of “thru”, I’ll just go with it.
Which just goes to show why incorrect spelling isnt the cause of these online conflicts. Rather its the veterans ‘marking’ their territory under a weak pretense.
So feel free to use ‘thru’ without anyone raising an eyebrow 
You consider maintaining readability a “weak pretense”?!?
[Shakes his head in disbelief…]
When its used as a flag for forum veterans to rally behind to set themselves apart: then yes.
The reason it is in this case is that it’s sole purpose seems to set one group apart from another. A newbie with incorrect spelling is ostracized and sometimes ridiculed until he acknowledges who the veterans are and then submits by rewritting his question in order to show ‘the elders’ respect. The proof is that T-mag has a much greater audience than it has in the past, yet the number of people who have felt confortable enough to post on multiple occassions hasnt increased in a linear relation to its current readership. I usually find ‘good causes’ difficult to accept when there are more victims than not. For ‘good causes’ can produce many wrong doings. [example: The Crusades]
If you are really worried about your youths education or the correct usage of your language I suggest you donate your time to help kids who have trouble learning. I guarantee you that you’ll find the experience more rewarding than the satisfaction you’re gaining from turning illiterates away online. Just like we are on this site to be taught effective diet/training methods and taught how to critically think about all things bodybuilding; reading and writing must be shown. Turning an illiterate person away and belittling does nothing to help their cause. That’s not how you teach any subject to anyone.
Anyways, thats all I have to say on the subject. I’m well aware it will fall on deaf ears. Sort of like convincing a fraternity that initiations arent necessary.
Char Dawg, you ass. Don’t you realize that by telling people that in order to get answers to their questions, board members have to be able to read these questions? You elitist, stop victimizing people with your good causes!
Well, I’m always willing to listen to an opposing point of view, but when you start comparing a desire for basic literacy to the Crusades, I think we’re just about at a quarter past stupid. I mean really.
Just for the record, ANYONE can join in the discussion, so long as they take little time to post in a reasonably literate manner. It doesn’t have to be a forum vet, and there are some forum vets who have been around for quite some time whose questions I won’t answer, simply because it takes too long to read through them and figure out WTF the guy’s trying to say. So I find your point completely invalid.
Oh, and just FYI, I am a career teacher. I run a language school. And while I agree with you that, generally speaking, a supportive approach is best, there are times when a good swift kick in the butt is better. I point you to mace.J above, as just one example. So again, point not valid.
To Redman: Yeah. [Smacks head] I don’t know what I could have been thinking.
Oh, one other thing I forgot to mention.
I just ran a forum search on the name “sewerhooker” and looked at what came up. Know what? Not ONE instance where you offered any sort of training or nutritional advice to anyone.
Must be nice to sit back and take pot shots at the people who are trying to put something into this board and increase its quality - especially when you yourself have nothing of any worth to offer except an “opinion”.
Asshole.
I realize that this thread has evolved into much more than a debate on grammar. I also think that is a good thing. Originally, the people that had found T-Mag, had a certain base level of knowlegde, training experience and a certain respect for what was on this site.
More recently (as Biotest advertising has increased), many new people have found T-Mag and many new people are participating on this forum.
While many people are obviously advanced in their training and have a lot of great information to add, there have been a significantly larger portion of people who are new to training or whose knowledge is based primarily on Weider mags. Honestly, I don't really care if a person knows even one decent thing about training. All I care about is a willingness to learn and certain amount of respect shown to others.
I think it is very reasonable for some of the veteran people here to try to lay out some certain ground rules. But I also think that it is vital that we (yes, I include myself as a forum veteran) also do it with a certain amount of respect.
The mods can police this forum only so much, so that leaves the actual running of the forum up to us for the most part. If people want a forum where people can be lazy, rude, inconsiderate, disrespectful and write like 4th graders, there are plenty of places to go. The T-Mag forum IS NOT one of these places.
If that makes me an elitist, arrogant veteran in your eyes or to the eyes of others, I just don't understand that.
Uh oh, I feels a rhyme comin’ ta my dome
Stepped in from HIIT and I just arrived home
Clicked on tha T-mag site and look at what I'm seein'
Some of my forum brethren tryin' ta use reasonin'
Come on char and Jason, that logic stuff aint gonna work
With deez peoples on tha forum, tha ones dat only lurk
Or came across tha site cuz uva coincidental quirk
Dey only find time to contribute when dey wanna be a jerk
You gots ta realize fellas; come on back ta planet earth
Think about cho time...ponder...recognize its worth
Dey made up dey mind, you aint gonna change it for 'em
"You must have hidden motives behind yo' hours on tha forum
You really aint here ta help people wit dey trainin n' stuff
Everytime ya post, thats gotta be a some kinda bluff"
We all have huge egos big as a mutha-ufgkin' bear
"Excuse me, sir, your use of ebonics is confusing me" <====== I dont care.
If you aint gonna join 'em, then ya gots to beat 'em someway, somehow
So, I'm dead to this thread like a gun to tha head...Blahow!
I think you’re confusing the issue. The problem many of us have is not with people who are functionally illiterate, rather people who are just too damn lazy to tighten up their posts and make them lucid. There is a difference between not knowing the correct way to do something and not caring enough to do it right.
“There is a difference between not knowing the correct way to do something and not caring enough to do it right.”
Well said, but here is the million-dollar question: how can you tell the difference? In a previous post, I called attention to Joel Marion’s semi-colon abuse. Does he know how to use semi-colons correctly? Probably (at least he better know now Did he use them correctly? Nope. But how many people here would call him lazy?
I’m not trying to offend anybody; I’m just curious.