Forcing Catholics to Support Birth Control?

Just to stir the pot a little:

Survey after survey has shown that U.S. Catholics neither agree with official church teachings on contraception nor follow them.

According to a 2011 Guttmacher Institute survey, ?only 2% of Catholic women rely on natural family planning.? A 2002 survey found that Catholic women in the United States were more likely than American women as a whole to use the birth control pill, and only slightly less likely to use a condom. In a 2000 poll that strikes even closer to the heart of this debate, 90% of American Catholic women surveyed said they wanted to see access to birth control services at community hospitals.

Turning from behaviors to beliefs, it is clear that the majority of U.S. Catholics also disagree with church teachings on contraception. According to a 2005 Harris poll, 90% of U.S. Catholics support the use of birth control.

My Take: 'Real Catholics' not opposed to birth control – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:
Hmmm…I think Push is making fun of me… ;)[/quote]

Greeny, you can’t make a RogueVampirish type comment and expect me to sit on the sidelines selling hot dogs.[/quote]

LOL…Now I feel insulted…RogueVampirish? How? By not agreeing the Catholic Church is a special snowflake and deserves special privileges over every other religion? What happened to separation of church and state?

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:
Hmmm…I think Push is making fun of me… ;)[/quote]

Greeny, you can’t make a RogueVampirish type comment and expect me to sit on the sidelines selling hot dogs.[/quote]

LOL…Now I feel insulted…RogueVampirish? How? By not agreeing the Catholic Church is a special snowflake and deserves special privileges over every other religion? What happened to separation of church and state?[/quote]

Wait…this isn’t just about Catholics, btw.

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Just to stir the pot a little:

Survey after survey has shown that U.S. Catholics neither agree with official church teachings on contraception nor follow them.
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Not relevant as to what the government should be forcing Catholic associations to do.

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:
Hmmm…I think Push is making fun of me… ;)[/quote]

Greeny, you can’t make a RogueVampirish type comment and expect me to sit on the sidelines selling hot dogs.[/quote]

LOL…Now I feel insulted…RogueVampirish? How? By not agreeing the Catholic Church is a special snowflake and deserves special privileges over every other religion? What happened to separation of church and state?[/quote]

Wait…this isn’t just about Catholics, btw.[/quote]

Yeah, but you guys are making the biggest stink about it. Get over yourselves.

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Just to stir the pot a little:

Survey after survey has shown that U.S. Catholics neither agree with official church teachings on contraception nor follow them.
[/quote]

Not relevant as to what the government should be forcing Catholic associations to do.
[/quote]

Yeah, but it makes you wonder why the hell you’re arguing anyway.

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:
Hmmm…I think Push is making fun of me… ;)[/quote]

Greeny, you can’t make a RogueVampirish type comment and expect me to sit on the sidelines selling hot dogs.[/quote]

LOL…Now I feel insulted…RogueVampirish? How? By not agreeing the Catholic Church is a special snowflake and deserves special privileges over every other religion? What happened to separation of church and state?[/quote]

Wait…this isn’t just about Catholics, btw.[/quote]

Yeah, but you guys are making the biggest stink about it…[/quote]

And? It still doesn’t just impact the Catholic faith.

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Just to stir the pot a little:

Survey after survey has shown that U.S. Catholics neither agree with official church teachings on contraception nor follow them.
[/quote]

Not relevant as to what the government should be forcing Catholic associations to do.
[/quote]

It does ask the question of whether the leaders of these associations are acting in the interest of the group they represent.

Maybe that’s why Obama is still leading in the polls in terms of the Catholic vote even after this “anti-Catholic” policy.

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Just to stir the pot a little:

Survey after survey has shown that U.S. Catholics neither agree with official church teachings on contraception nor follow them.
[/quote]

Not relevant as to what the government should be forcing Catholic associations to do.
[/quote]

Yeah, but it makes you wonder why the hell you’re arguing anyway. [/quote]

Freedom of association and religion, if it wasn’t clear. Go buy your own birth control.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Just to stir the pot a little:

Survey after survey has shown that U.S. Catholics neither agree with official church teachings on contraception nor follow them.
[/quote]

Not relevant as to what the government should be forcing Catholic associations to do.
[/quote]

It does ask the question of whether the leaders of these associations are acting in the interest of the group they represent.

Maybe that’s why Obama is still leading in the polls in terms of the Catholic vote even after this “anti-Catholic” policy.[/quote]

The leaders of the associations are acting in the interest of the faith, as is their charge. That’s not the government’s business, period. Nor will they be able to bend them to their will.

We’ve already schooled the Obama administration once, with a 9-0 Supreme Court ruling, over who we could hire and fire. We won’t comply, and they’ll end up embarrassed in court again.

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Just to stir the pot a little:

Survey after survey has shown that U.S. Catholics neither agree with official church teachings on contraception nor follow them.
[/quote]

Not relevant as to what the government should be forcing Catholic associations to do.
[/quote]

Yeah, but it makes you wonder why the hell you’re arguing anyway. [/quote]

Freedom of association and religion, if it wasn’t clear. Go buy your own birth control.
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I do, which is discounted through my health insurance plan. :slight_smile: It’s only $5 if I get the generic but I don’t trust generics for something like that.

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Just to stir the pot a little:

Survey after survey has shown that U.S. Catholics neither agree with official church teachings on contraception nor follow them.
[/quote]

Not relevant as to what the government should be forcing Catholic associations to do.
[/quote]

Yeah, but it makes you wonder why the hell you’re arguing anyway. [/quote]

Freedom of association and religion, if it wasn’t clear. Go buy your own birth control.
[/quote]

I do, which is discounted through my health insurance plan. :slight_smile: It’s only $5 if I get the generic but I don’t trust generics for something like that. [/quote]

Oh goody. Now, we’ll be handling our own business, in our own associations. No government will change that. Consider the Obama edict vetoed.