[quote]WannabeBigBoy wrote:
When did one’s size dictate whether he or she knows proper deadlift form? I know how to deadlift properly, and because I don’t weigh 250 pounds, nor do I want to, my knowledge is unworthy? I’m tired of all the self proclaimed “know it alls” acting as if they are the only people who have the right to speak due to their size. If I wanted advice on how to gain 100lbs, it clearly makes sense to ask someone who has done so, but this thread is about TECHNIQUE. A 95 lb girl has all the fuckin right in the world to give simple precautionary advice.
I would gladly take advice from a 160 lber who can deadlift 3X his weight. GASP Oh the blasphemy, is it possible that someone under 200 lbs has valuable knowledge?
If someone is jerking off into the water-fountain, do I have the right to tell him it’s probably an unwise decision and not conducive to social acceptance? Absolutely not… I’m not in the top tier of load blowers. Damn.
-Mugatu[/quote]
Well I am in the top tier of load blowers and can tell you that it is TOTALLY acceptable to blow your load into the drinking fountain, so I guess the answer is NO, you don’t have valuable knowledge and you have no idea what the hell you’re talking about, NEWB!!!
When you tell someone that your are appalled at their form and that they are a super special exception to your no advice rule cause they are just that stupid its going to embarrass them.
Maybe tone down the caution and write down a link to T-Nation on a scrap of paper and just tell them, 'hey your deadlift form looks iffy, dangerous even. Look up form on this website and take some video of yourself for comparison. I’d be happy to help if im around. See ya."
you could skip the T-Nation part too. People don’t trust the internet. You could tell him youtube or whatever.
Hes still not gonna take it well but at least hes not gonna crawl in a hole and stop lifting.
[quote]WannabeBigBoy wrote:
When did one’s size dictate whether he or she knows proper deadlift form? I know how to deadlift properly, and because I don’t weigh 250 pounds, nor do I want to, my knowledge is unworthy? I’m tired of all the self proclaimed “know it alls” acting as if they are the only people who have the right to speak due to their size. If I wanted advice on how to gain 100lbs, it clearly makes sense to ask someone who has done so, but this thread is about TECHNIQUE. A 95 lb girl has all the fuckin right in the world to give simple precautionary advice.
I would gladly take advice from a 160 lber who can deadlift 3X his weight. GASP Oh the blasphemy, is it possible that someone under 200 lbs has valuable knowledge?
If someone is jerking off into the water-fountain, do I have the right to tell him it’s probably an unwise decision and not conducive to social acceptance? Absolutely not… I’m not in the top tier of load blowers. Damn.
-Mugatu[/quote]
A 160 pounder who pulls 500 is still going to look like he lifts weights. If you don’t look like you’ve ever bumped into a weight, why the hell would I listen to what you have to say about deadlifting? You’re going to have to horn your qualifications into the conversation like a douche to get me to pay attention. And the few coaches who despite their skinny physiques are actually qualified to dole out lifting advice? Their time is too valuable to waste by throwing random unsolicited advice at people.
Now, I don’t think the OP did anything wrong and I don’t find sound, unsolicited advice so distasteful, but we need to stamp out this infection that is the idea that we have to applaud and placate every non-achiever in the weight room.
[quote]ladieslove wrote:
in my experience, men dont take kindly to me telling them they’re working out wrong.[/quote]
I would be happy to take your advice on how to perform better…however we need to work on how you tell me I’m working out wrong…phrases like, “Ha! Your deadlift form sucks loser” or “The last guy I worked out with did it so much better” don’t go over well…phrases like, “oh yeah…so close…you’ve almost got it…just thrust your hips a little harder…mmmm…that’s it…lock it out…Lock it Out…LOCK IT OUT SEN BABY” would be a phrase I’d take very kindly coming from you…
Sometimes it’s even tough for trainers to give unsolicited advise. My wife is a PT and a fairly impressive fitness competitor. She recently told me a story about some guy doing some kind of hunched back squat thingy. So she goes over and tells him:
“You’re going to mess up your back doing that”
Him; “How so?”
Her; “Bending you back while squatting”
Him; “I’m not squatting I’m working my back, they’re called Goodmornings. I can squat a lot more that this” he chuckles
Her; “Ohhhh, you’re trying to do a Goodmorning!!! That’s supposed to be a hamstring exercise, not a back exercise” She was about to demonstrate a proper GM for him (in her leotard) but he dismissed her with a “Errr, ahh okay, thanks for the help”
[quote]ladieslove wrote:
in my experience, men dont take kindly to me telling them they’re working out wrong.[/quote]
I would be happy to take your advice on how to perform better…however we need to work on how you tell me I’m working out wrong…phrases like, “Ha! Your deadlift form sucks loser” or “The last guy I worked out with did it so much better” don’t go over well…phrases like, “oh yeah…so close…you’ve almost got it…just thrust your hips a little harder…mmmm…that’s it…lock it out…Lock it Out…LOCK IT OUT SEN BABY” would be a phrase I’d take very kindly coming from you…[/quote]
[quote]ladieslove wrote:
in my experience, men dont take kindly to me telling them they’re working out wrong.[/quote]
I would be happy to take your advice on how to perform better…however we need to work on how you tell me I’m working out wrong…phrases like, “Ha! Your deadlift form sucks loser” or “The last guy I worked out with did it so much better” don’t go over well…phrases like, “oh yeah…so close…you’ve almost got it…just thrust your hips a little harder…mmmm…that’s it…lock it out…Lock it Out…LOCK IT OUT SEN BABY” would be a phrase I’d take very kindly coming from you…[/quote]
in the gym?[/quote]
In the gym…in a box…with a fox…in a house…with a mouse…here or there…pretty much anywhere…I’m easy like that.
[quote]ladieslove wrote:
in my experience, men dont take kindly to me telling them they’re working out wrong.[/quote]
I would be happy to take your advice on how to perform better…however we need to work on how you tell me I’m working out wrong…phrases like, “Ha! Your deadlift form sucks loser” or “The last guy I worked out with did it so much better” don’t go over well…phrases like, “oh yeah…so close…you’ve almost got it…just thrust your hips a little harder…mmmm…that’s it…lock it out…Lock it Out…LOCK IT OUT SEN BABY” would be a phrase I’d take very kindly coming from you…[/quote]
in the gym?[/quote]
In the gym…in a box…with a fox…in a house…with a mouse…here or there…pretty much anywhere…I’m easy like that.
[/quote]
[quote]ladieslove wrote:
in my experience, men dont take kindly to me telling them they’re working out wrong.[/quote]
I would be happy to take your advice on how to perform better…however we need to work on how you tell me I’m working out wrong…phrases like, “Ha! Your deadlift form sucks loser” or “The last guy I worked out with did it so much better” don’t go over well…phrases like, “oh yeah…so close…you’ve almost got it…just thrust your hips a little harder…mmmm…that’s it…lock it out…Lock it Out…LOCK IT OUT SEN BABY” would be a phrase I’d take very kindly coming from you…[/quote]
in the gym?[/quote]
In the gym…in a box…with a fox…in a house…with a mouse…here or there…pretty much anywhere…I’m easy like that.
[/quote]
WITH a fox… good to know![/quote]
I suspect somebody needs to brush up on her Dr. Seuss.
[quote]ladieslove wrote:
in my experience, men dont take kindly to me telling them they’re working out wrong.[/quote]
I would be happy to take your advice on how to perform better…however we need to work on how you tell me I’m working out wrong…phrases like, “Ha! Your deadlift form sucks loser” or “The last guy I worked out with did it so much better” don’t go over well…phrases like, “oh yeah…so close…you’ve almost got it…just thrust your hips a little harder…mmmm…that’s it…lock it out…Lock it Out…LOCK IT OUT SEN BABY” would be a phrase I’d take very kindly coming from you…[/quote]
in the gym?[/quote]
In the gym…in a box…with a fox…in a house…with a mouse…here or there…pretty much anywhere…I’m easy like that.
[/quote]
WITH a fox… good to know![/quote]
I suspect somebody needs to brush up on her Dr. Seuss.[/quote]
[quote]ladieslove wrote:
in my experience, men dont take kindly to me telling them they’re working out wrong.[/quote]
I would be happy to take your advice on how to perform better…however we need to work on how you tell me I’m working out wrong…phrases like, “Ha! Your deadlift form sucks loser” or “The last guy I worked out with did it so much better” don’t go over well…phrases like, “oh yeah…so close…you’ve almost got it…just thrust your hips a little harder…mmmm…that’s it…lock it out…Lock it Out…LOCK IT OUT SEN BABY” would be a phrase I’d take very kindly coming from you…[/quote]
in the gym?[/quote]
In the gym…in a box…with a fox…in a house…with a mouse…here or there…pretty much anywhere…I’m easy like that.
[/quote]
WITH a fox… good to know![/quote]
I suspect somebody needs to brush up on her Dr. Seuss.[/quote]
[quote]ladieslove wrote:
in my experience, men dont take kindly to me telling them they’re working out wrong.[/quote]
I would be happy to take your advice on how to perform better…however we need to work on how you tell me I’m working out wrong…phrases like, “Ha! Your deadlift form sucks loser” or “The last guy I worked out with did it so much better” don’t go over well…phrases like, “oh yeah…so close…you’ve almost got it…just thrust your hips a little harder…mmmm…that’s it…lock it out…Lock it Out…LOCK IT OUT SEN BABY” would be a phrase I’d take very kindly coming from you…[/quote]
in the gym?[/quote]
In the gym…in a box…with a fox…in a house…with a mouse…here or there…pretty much anywhere…I’m easy like that.
[/quote]
WITH a fox… good to know![/quote]
I suspect somebody needs to brush up on her Dr. Seuss.[/quote]
[quote]ladieslove wrote:
in my experience, men dont take kindly to me telling them they’re working out wrong.[/quote]
I would be happy to take your advice on how to perform better…however we need to work on how you tell me I’m working out wrong…phrases like, “Ha! Your deadlift form sucks loser” or “The last guy I worked out with did it so much better” don’t go over well…phrases like, “oh yeah…so close…you’ve almost got it…just thrust your hips a little harder…mmmm…that’s it…lock it out…Lock it Out…LOCK IT OUT SEN BABY” would be a phrase I’d take very kindly coming from you…[/quote]
in the gym?[/quote]
In the gym…in a box…with a fox…in a house…with a mouse…here or there…pretty much anywhere…I’m easy like that.
[/quote]
WITH a fox… good to know![/quote]
I suspect somebody needs to brush up on her Dr. Seuss.[/quote]
I’ve had a guy come up to the gym once when I was doing cocked concentration curls and said I should be keeping my wrist firm and straight - not dropped, which is what cocked concentation curls are. I might hurt myself. The angle hits a different part of the biceps. I just smiled and said thanks… and told him I train out of one of the best gyms downtown Vancouver with the owner, who is also a good friend of mine. He just backs off.
If I see people with a wack form, I don’t say anything… can’t help everyone and it’s definitely not my place. We’ve all been there ourselves.