Everybody dies some day. Ive got scientific proof to back that up. If I have my way I’ll be a grey haired jacked corpse with a smile on my face and a big beautiful family to carry the torch
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Good luck of convincing everybody. Certain religions believe most people die, but characters from their religion get exceptions.
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Certainly, the sheer level of work these people go through during med school and the amount of knowledge they have regarding the human body, drugs in general tends to create a “god complex” for many. Wherein they think they are superior to the average being, and the fat paychecks, trophy wives etc don’t help either
The good doctors are the ones like physiologik who don’t let such knowledge get to their head
There have been numerous doctors who talk down to me, explaining the most trivial of medical concepts to me as if I’m a child… sometimes in fields where I think I might LEGITIMATELY know more than they do (say endocrinology… a colorectal suregon or something explaining the concept of free vs total testosterone)
A good doctor is one who admits a certain facet of medicine is an area of expertise he isn’t up to date on. I’ve had some say to me “look, I know anabolic steroids have long term deleterious effects when abused, however this isn’t my area of knowledge and thus I can’t particularly agree nor disagree with you’re ideology”… THATS a good doctor
I don’t believe in the concept of heaven… I don’t know what happens after death, perhaps we are expended as some sort of energy in the universe or some BS like that… OR everything just goes black… lights out… that’s it… our feeble existence is over
Which brings up two potential ideologies
- be careful, you only live once
- fuck it, do everything… fuck everything… you only live once
I think there’s an in between… if you want to experience something, and it’s somewhat dangerous… but you know the risks and this is something you need to tick off you’re bucket list before death… go for it. But if it’s something that’ll probably kill you, say… I want to try jumping off a building without a parachute or operate an aeroplane without any prior flying experience… don’t
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I generally look like some sort of street person, but have an engineering degree and work as an engineer (I dress up for that). I have questioned doctors when they say something silly, and get the response that it will probably be “over my head”. I am like LOL, I am a medical device patent holder I can understand and do understand, and that is why I questioned you. Of course I don’t actually push very hard.
I currently am of the opinion that nobody knows anything about the supernatural, if a god exists, etc. With that being said, I believe that we should treat everyone equally, and my personal ideology is to maximize happiness. When I say maximize happiness I am not trying to say maximize hedonistic pleasures. There is a place for that, but all around happiness. Sometimes that comes from hard work, sometimes from friends and family, sometimes from hedonism (partying).
I was doing Dr treated TRT, but it just got to be so much hoop jumping that I feel it was taking away happiness. I secured a source and self administer now. I am also on my first blast. I feel one should get the most out of their first blast, so I went with a big one. Here it is:
325 Test E a week for 12 weeks.
I like living dangerously. I will probably add Anavar for the last 6 weeks, since I am getting some for free.
His email is in his bio. He takes on TRT patients and while it’s not the cheapest he’s the most thorough person I’ve spoken with as he wants to optimize everything including things like diet, stressors, gym routine etc. If you’re serious I don’t think there’s a better guy out there. Basically an all around life coach vs just a TRT a doc. I just started my life over with a different career on the other side of the country but when I’m back to ballin I’ll be utilizing physio.
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Test + var is a damn good first blast! If you’re aware of the risks and you’ve made you’re decision… then that’s cool 
I don’t condone nor do I express displeasure within such actions so long as you’re aware of the risks
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I think he’s thoughrough because he is/was a competitive bodybuilder, thus he, aside from his medical expertise, is very aware about the critical impact lifestyle and dietary choices can have on ones overal physique and health status…
You can induce secondary hypogoandism with lack of sleep, bad diet, sedentary lifestyle etc
Also such variables will dramatically reduce results acquired from AAS, and if you’re going to do something risky, you might as well try reap maximum or near maximum benefit
Yep, I am aware. There are certain compounds I will likely never use as the risk / reward ratio I don’t think makes sense for me. Nandrolone (NPP or Deca), and Tren are out of the question for me.
I feel that at the dose I am using, I should not see many sides from the test, and var is known for having low sides.
I am on TRT, so for me cardiac health is my biggest concern. After that it is getting ED. I guess now that I am self administering and I am currently on a blast, I guess I can’t really say TRT, I guess I am cruising.
Anavar is also known for taking a fat liquified shit all over you’re lipid profile (hepatotoxiicty, activation of hepatic lipase etc)
Long term atherosclerotic burden will be far higher with anavar than test… BUT, six weeks or so probably won’t induce a significant change in calcium/plaque scores, this is looonnngg term
I have heard that. I plan on using it for 6 weeks only. I don’t really know how to quantify how bad it is compared to other orals.
Unfortunately, the free var is in 50 mg tabs. I will split into 25 mg 2X daily, but the idea of 675 mg total AAS a week does make my ventricles hurt.
Alright sir (I believe you were the one talking about skepticism regarding T and cardioprotection)
So preliminary studies and meta analysis have made a distinct correlation between low testosterone concentrations, insulin resistance, atherosclerosis progression, survival chance post myocardial infarction. The big question regarding these studies is… is it causation or due to other factors. Perhaps these men have insulin resistance and hypogonadism because they’re obese/ implement poor dietary choices etc. visceral adipose tissue, of which is marketedly elevated within obese individuals, is a widely recognised endocrine organ that facilitates leptin resistance and thus insulin resistance, hypogonadism (off balancing t/e ratio and whatnot), but I’m sure you know this bs, it’s rather simple science, the mechanisms behind how these interactions occur are far more complex and interesting (once again I’m sure you know these too, but not many want to talk about them… or people think I’m talkig gibberish if it’s an in person convo 
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So is the low testosterone the culprit? Or is it the underlying factors that induce hypogonadism also induce atherosclerosis profession etc
I’d say perhaps both, it’s well known men undergoing androgen deprivation therapy develop more visceral fat mass, insulin resistance etc… thus there may be an (albeit indirect) cardioprotective mechanism there, as type 2 diabeties, excess visceral adipose tissue etc is a WELL known risk factor for precipitating the development of cardiovascular disease
Same can be said for those recovering from myocardial infarction… were the ones with low T simply less healthy, perhaps the studies accounts for these variables… I don’t recall and I don’t have time to look for the data again
Rodent models appear to indicate testosterone does have a protective effect against death from cardiac injury, as testosterone deprivation in rats leads to systematic cellular dysregulation/ dysfunction
These are the only two I have saved… and I’m tired, just got back from gym
As to health, even if “TRT” doses of test elict a significantly detrimental effect to the myocardium (highly doubt they do, I don’t even think modestly supraphysiologic dosages are that bad, but that’s just me… perhaps convincing myself that I’ll be okay lol). Dietary modifications and exercise will go a long way to increasing overall longevity… says me… who LITERALLY just got back from gym and wolfed down two massive slices of cheesecake… despite being lactose intolerant
It’s more than that. 10mg orals is equivalent to about 100mg test e/c in terms of total amount of hormone (100mg test c is 69-70mg test, 100mg test E is 70-71mg) I don’t remember the exact equation/amount but it was something like that
So 325mg test 50mg anavar is more like 825mg, and the anabolic equivilent of even more than 825mg test.
I can’t tell you whether it’ll induce long term detriment, we don’t have enough data as to what dose, duration induced significant cardiac abnormalities… many even get away without developing serious cardiovascular pathology, whilst others with potentially undiagnosed defects drop dead after one cycle
Look at Zyzz, he ran 6-8 cycles or something, dropped at 21 in a Thailand sauna from arrhythmia induced by an undiagnosed heart defect… and copious amounts of “special creatine”… he might have been a fucking douchebag, but he sure knew how to live life while he lived… and he was relatively open about his gear use despite being a popular fitness personality, and that’s somewhat admirable, as people like tren o Hearn still claim natural… despite looking like (quote from Phillion) a fucking hassleback potato… being bigger than Arnold in his prime etc.
Recent study came out on the cardiovascular functioning of AAS users, the average… whilst still significantly worse than controls after 10 years of total weeks being on (avg) what was interesting was the wide range of difference… some parameters (within the box plot) were identical to controls, whilst other individuals had measurably parameters of cardiac function adequate to diagnose heart failure (though only one or two were this extreme if I recall correctly)
Anavar has a crazy anabolic androgenic rating it is like 320:30. So the 350 mg var a week is on paper more like a gram of test (anabolic rating of 100), but like 100 mg of test from an androgenic sense. I don’t think it plays out like that in the real world though. Var is not supposed to be as strong as test gram for gram based on bro science.
Do orals loose some potency being digested and passing through the liver?
Actual according to literature… anavar is far stronger than test mg/mg in terms of its ability to induce gains in PURE lean mass
However it’s commonly faked or cut with other substances. I have decent reason to believe the anavar I initially used was cut with amphetamine (speed) or beta 2 agonists (given my source at the time that sold me var also sold speed… because most sources that deal with AAS in aus also deal in recreational drugs) and anavar is anecdotally, yet somewhat incorrectly known as a “fat loss” drug… yes, it does stimulate/induce apoptopic mechanisms within visceral fat tissue, but it’s no miracle worker, you can’t out drug a shitty diet with anavar.
Anyhow, let’s just say on 25mg I didn’t make it past three days (racing heart, high blood pressure, feeling incredibly wired). Made it a couple/few weeks at 12.5 mg daily, this a long time ago though probably about 12 months ago
And I’ve used dbol at 20mg/day without any issue aside from heartburn/gastrointestinal irritation showing up at around day 14 (of 17 days use) or so
Hmm, the guy I am getting it from stopped because of BP issues. He is older (in his 50s) and did not want the risk, so I get it for free.
I have heard that it is commonly something else. I would be surprised if it was commonly cut with speed. I would think winny would be the number 1 fake due to it being sorta similar. I have heard dbol is common too.
I’ve taken amphetamine salts to study before… sparingly (with and without a prescription), I’ve never had the anavar tested (I threw into into a bonfire at the time), however I can attest the feeling between the two was almost identical
I hate the stuff, in low enough dosages, since I’m ADD (say 2.5 mg) it actually calms me down, appears to positively effect my neurology, make me more organised, coherent in my thinking. In recreational dosages (say for cramming a lot of information in a week before an exam, going out or whatever you’d use it for) it makes me angry, psychotic, irritable, wired, agitated… all in all I dislike it very much
By recreational dosages I mean 5-25mg within a single sitting, im very sensitive to stimulant medications, the opposite tends to be true for depressants
I was on rits as a kid, but my mom took me off of them. I did get diagnosed with ADHD as a young child. I don’t take anything for it now, but maybe I should. I get distracted easier than most of my peers. Reports and such are pretty tough for me.
Desoxyn is where it’s AT!!! Just kidding haha (it’s prescription methamphetamine)
I was surprised to see the medication is still approved for use, the side effect/risk to benefit profile is almost always not in favour of the patient
Prescription meth is probably not for me.
I will say that if I can get into something I am interested in, and it is relatively short duration, I can learn and do some things other people can’t seem to do or figure out. On the other hand doing something I am not interested in is near torture.