I have never heard of this before but now there are 2 things i’ve read on this site and from CT and 1-2 others that make me a little worried about what i eat
The more of a certain food you eat the more you can become allergic to it. if you eat a ton of say, chicken, for a long time you’ll develop an allergy
oatmeal (my biggest carb source by far) is one of the highest allergenic (sp?) foods there is for Caucasians especially.
not like break out all over allergies but the type that causes a problem and raises cortisol. anyone heard of that? How much should i take that into account when choosing foods?
yes i have heard of it and experienced it and eliminated all the problem foods i could find, for myself it was : wheat, soy, garlic spices (like hot sauce and hot peppers) and lactose
the only way to be certain is to get a quality ELISA (i believe that is the name) test done for them
as for the problem in general i think issue #2 is bigger than issue #1 because issue #2 is what is affecting you right now
When in doubt, simply eliminate a suspected allergen from your diet and see whether things improve.
As always, it’s best to try to eat as wide a variety of foods possible. Sure, it can be difficult to do so, but I find that it’s worth it since you end up finding things that work well that you might not otherwise try.
I had probably four eggs a day for around 5 or 6 months. Sometimes I took the weekends off, sometimes I didn’t but I ate 4 eggs every day during the week. If I had known this could happen I would have taken some breaks. Eggs weren’t really replacable for me as a breakfast but now I can’t have them at all and have really struggled with my breakfasts. I read somewhere that if you take 6 weeks off that you can start eating some eggs again. It got better for me, but still wasn’t quite right. Hopefully in about a month I will be able to start having some eggs.
[quote]Eielson wrote:
I had probably four eggs a day for around 5 or 6 months. Sometimes I took the weekends off, sometimes I didn’t but I ate 4 eggs every day during the week. If I had known this could happen I would have taken some breaks.
Eggs weren’t really replacable for me as a breakfast but now I can’t have them at all and have really struggled with my breakfasts. I read somewhere that if you take 6 weeks off that you can start eating some eggs again. It got better for me, but still wasn’t quite right. Hopefully in about a month I will be able to start having some eggs.[/quote]
how do you know you were allergic to them? and whats wrong with having something once per day, isn’t this only for if you have it a lot all the time?
Damn i have loads of oatmeal. Is that test to find out if your allergic to something expensive?
i eat basically the same foods everyday but all of my meals are different (except the oatmeal), i mean who has 20 different sources of protein, carbs, etc…? most people just have staple foods and that works fine.
You generally do not suddenly become allergic to things, you just become more aware of your allergy to it. Try cutting just one thing out of your diet for a few days and see if you feel better, if you do feel better then skip eating that food and do something else.
For me both spinach and shellfish are bad, really bad, like get EPIPEN shot or go to the hospital in the next 15 mins or suffocate bad. Obviously I figured out these allergy’s fast but some are mild then get worse with age or when under stress or when sick.
I am also lactose intolerant, I can drink small quantities of milk, eat a small DQ blizzard, and eat a cup of cottage cheese but if I go over any one of those in a days time man do I pay, but when I am sick any of those cause near instant distress.
I found out my soy allergy because i always wondered why i became sluggish and lightheaded after a big stir-fry
the last time (last time i had anything with soy) i ate that stir-fry i just stopped and thought everything that was inside the food “chicken no problem, veggies no problem, soy sauce → problem”
when i ate that stir-fry with soy sauce my sinuses/nasal area became inflammed and congested and i got a little dizzy which was a sure sign of a food sensitivity (the milder form of an allergy)
according to this website (Food Allergy Testing - Chronic Fatigue Syndrome - Vertigo Treatment) the ELISA test measures IgG levels from your blood after ingesting these foods because food allergens are treated as foreign invaders by the immune system, the cost according to this site is around $140 though i have heard costs of several hundred myself
Dude I have a cup of oatmeal everyday, until you are already a very large person I would not worry. Im usre ct is right but theres bigger things to worry bout. Look at how many pros eat oatmeal
No offense crod, I agree with part of your statement, but the pros downing the oatmeal also have clen and other metabolism enhancing drugs. Sure there are some clean pros, but there are also bodybuilders who use anabolics to allow them to eat whatever they want.
So the allergic catabolic response of the cortisol released from the allergy is non existent for them since they have things like testosterone to cancel all that out.
So just because they do it, doesnt mean you can and achieve the same results.
ARe you sure that drugs really cancel out allergies, its going to have a negative respnse on the body anyway so how it testesterone going to cancel it out? Also your metabolism has nothing to do with allegies and your cortisol raising
what if you dont feel bad though? i have lots of oatmeal on days i workout and i never really feel “bad”. i feel tired sometimes definitely but that i think has more to do with sleep and having carbs in general. like yesterday i got so tired at work and the meal before that was a lot of quinoa, not oatmeal which i had earlier. so without being tested the only way to find out would be to take it completely out of the diet and see how i “feel”? theres so many variables for that though…confusing
which is why people often talk about food sensitivities
on the nutritional board on acne.org they talk a lot about food issues because a mild sensitivity to a certain food can cause frequent oil and breakouts for some people (such as myself)
you’re right that sensitivities can often be so minor that you won’t “feel” different but that doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t raising cortisol and screwing up your GI tract
dont worry about ellergys in oatmeal unless you start to get symptoms like you get sick if you eat them. DOnt ovethink it, at least until youve trained for many years and are all ready very big, otherwise eat your oatmeal
[quote]cyph31 wrote:
which is why people often talk about food sensitivities
on the nutritional board on acne.org they talk a lot about food issues because a mild sensitivity to a certain food can cause frequent oil and breakouts for some people (such as myself)
you’re right that sensitivities can often be so minor that you won’t “feel” different but that doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t raising cortisol and screwing up your GI tract[/quote]
so the only true way to tell is by that test right? hell i’m not paying $140 to see if i’m mildly allergic to oatmeal lol
about the acne thing can that be with any food? when i did keto awhile back i got severe acne and really oily skin. i figured it was the high fat and all the olive oil but then a lot of people said it was probably from raised hormones
As i said the skin is one of your main elimination organs along with the liver so if you constantly aggravate food sensitivities/allergies then there is a good chance that it will show up as skin issues but some people are able to get around this issue by having a damn good liver
of course the dermatology community will constantly proclaim “diet has no effect on acne/skin health” because you can’t patent a “healthy lifestyle”
as for the fat issue it depends on what your fat balance and overall diet was like, if your diet was mostly saturated fat with lots of carbs with minimal fruits/veggies then that would be strongly inflammatory which will likely cause skin issues and increase oil production
the important point is that dietary fat intake does NOT mean increased oil (sebum) production, last year i was at 50%+ carbs and had insane oil after 3-4 hours, a year later i’m at 50%+ fat and my oil production is down significantly along with less inflammation (and therefore less skin issues)
does your diet have lots of monounsaturated fat, fish oil and veggies ? then your skin should be fine
[quote]cyph31 wrote:
As i said the skin is one of your main elimination organs along with the liver so if you constantly aggravate food sensitivities/allergies then there is a good chance that it will show up as skin issues but some people are able to get around this issue by having a damn good liver
of course the dermatology community will constantly proclaim “diet has no effect on acne/skin health” because you can’t patent a “healthy lifestyle”
as for the fat issue it depends on what your fat balance and overall diet was like, if your diet was mostly saturated fat with lots of carbs with minimal fruits/veggies then that would be strongly inflammatory which will likely cause skin issues and increase oil production
the important point is that dietary fat intake does NOT mean increased oil (sebum) production, last year i was at 50%+ carbs and had insane oil after 3-4 hours, a year later i’m at 50%+ fat and my oil production is down significantly along with less inflammation (and therefore less skin issues)
does your diet have lots of monounsaturated fat, fish oil and veggies ? then your skin should be fine [/quote]
well when the problem happened i was on keto so just carbs on the load day once a week. i never bought into the whole “you can eat loads of bacon, sausage, and cheese” thing even though you probably can get away with it.
so my fat sources were all good (lots of olive oil, salmon, turkey burgers, peanut butter, nuts, etc…) and good proteins. i also had vegetables
