Follow Your Dream or Follow The Path?

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

aaaaand, you do IT for the company you work for, that is great!..now IMAGINE having to go to a different job site every week, do you really think that they all have nice clean pretty places that house their electrical equipment?

oh, wait, you’re IT…I thought we were talking about being a critical power electrician…[/quote]

Most facilities requiring critical power have electrical and mechanical rooms that are so clean you could eat off the floor. Me thinks you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about and are making judgements based on assumptions and not experience… Just saying…[/quote]

Well if the NEMA rating is good enough on an electrical enclosure, and it has an internal cooling system it can be positioned in a pretty nasty environment, am I right?

What I am saying kinda goes back to the “manual labor” point, we can stay focused on what you do for a good example and someone with a good background/exeperience to speak about it. But what about other “manual labor” industries? It can get nasty out there and I can’t imagine anyone would want to work in those areas up to retirement.

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:
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I can’t put too much stock in what you say if you haven’t been “old” (50+). From what I hear, the body can take a quick turn for the worst and it goes down hill quickly, sure at 45, 50 or even 55 you feel pretty good, but all of a sudden you turn 58, 61, 63 yrs old and shit ain’t the same…from what I hear…from EVERY person who has experienced these ages.[/quote]

I’m 51.

You weren’t talking about 63, you said 45 or 50. The reason the people you have spoken to that are falling apart is that they don’t do any manual labor.

Sure I don’t want to be digging ditches when I’m seventy five but that doesn’t mean I have to get kids to tie my shoes now.

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wtf is this thread even about anymore?

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[quote]1 Man Island wrote:
wtf is this thread even about anymore?[/quote]

Lol. I think it’s about when old people fall apart now.

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
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I can’t put too much stock in what you say if you haven’t been “old” (50+). From what I hear, the body can take a quick turn for the worst and it goes down hill quickly, sure at 45, 50 or even 55 you feel pretty good, but all of a sudden you turn 58, 61, 63 yrs old and shit ain’t the same…from what I hear…from EVERY person who has experienced these ages.[/quote]

I’m 51.

You weren’t talking about 63, you said 45 or 50. The reason the people you have spoken to that are falling apart is that they don’t do any manual labor.

Sure I don’t want to be digging ditches when I’m seventy five but that doesn’t mean I have to get kids to tie my shoes now.
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I’m talking about career-wise…the whole thing…up to retirement. I first said 45/50 cause this is when I figure the body begins* to start to ache etc.

I just asking if people think it’s feasible to have a “LABOR” type job all the way till retirement

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
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I can’t put too much stock in what you say if you haven’t been “old” (50+). From what I hear, the body can take a quick turn for the worst and it goes down hill quickly, sure at 45, 50 or even 55 you feel pretty good, but all of a sudden you turn 58, 61, 63 yrs old and shit ain’t the same…from what I hear…from EVERY person who has experienced these ages.[/quote]

I’m 51.

You weren’t talking about 63, you said 45 or 50. The reason the people you have spoken to that are falling apart is that they don’t do any manual labor.

Sure I don’t want to be digging ditches when I’m seventy five but that doesn’t mean I have to get kids to tie my shoes now.
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so, to answer my question, how old were you when you were doing those “labor” type jobs?

I’m talking about career-wise…the whole thing…up to retirement. I first said 45/50 cause this is when I figure the body begins* to start to ache etc.

I just asking if people think it’s feasible to have a “LABOR” type job all the way till retirement[/quote]

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Almost everyone who has made a historical dent in a chosen field has NOT taken the path. They were all dreamers.

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
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I can’t put too much stock in what you say if you haven’t been “old” (50+). From what I hear, the body can take a quick turn for the worst and it goes down hill quickly, sure at 45, 50 or even 55 you feel pretty good, but all of a sudden you turn 58, 61, 63 yrs old and shit ain’t the same…from what I hear…from EVERY person who has experienced these ages.[/quote]

I’m 51.

You weren’t talking about 63, you said 45 or 50. The reason the people you have spoken to that are falling apart is that they don’t do any manual labor.

Sure I don’t want to be digging ditches when I’m seventy five but that doesn’t mean I have to get kids to tie my shoes now.
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I’m talking about career-wise…the whole thing…up to retirement. I first said 45/50 cause this is when I figure the body begins* to start to ache etc.

I just asking if people think it’s feasible to have a “LABOR” type job all the way till retirement[/quote]

My best friend is a general contractor/remodeler that does bathrooms, kitchens or whatever you want. He is 54 and his partner is 65.

You are correct though that it is not preferable to be pouring concrete when you are 70.

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:
my point is that you can run into situations where you quickly loose motivation in the field due to the BS that you may have to put up with.

Which is why some may arrive to the point where they just work and get their shit done and loose motivation to try and go above and beyond.
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Hear that? That’s the sound of my post going “WHOOSH” over your head.

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[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
my point is that you can run into situations where you quickly loose motivation in the field due to the BS that you may have to put up with.

Which is why some may arrive to the point where they just work and get their shit done and loose motivation to try and go above and beyond.
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Hear that? That’s the sound of my post going “WHOOSH” over your head.[/quote]

Form a coherent sentence, then get back to me…

Theres a guy in our office who is borderline retarded, he constantly says things that don’t make sense, like at all. I often end up with a “huh?” look on my face. Then he indicates that what he said went over my head.

Now prove to me that you aren’t a borderline retard and rewrite your original post, I’ll wait here.

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:
Theres a guy in our office who is borderline retarded, he constantly says things that don’t make sense, like at all. I often end up with a “huh?” look on my face. Then he indicates that what he said went over my head.[/quote]

Did you just admit that the stuff a borderline retard says goes over your head?

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
Theres a guy in our office who is borderline retarded, he constantly says things that don’t make sense, like at all. I often end up with a “huh?” look on my face. Then he indicates that what he said went over my head.[/quote]

Did you just admit that the stuff a borderline retard says goes over your head?[/quote]

No, I wasn’t clear enough.

He says things that don’t make sense…to anybody.

you can’t just say stupid shit that doesn’t make sense, then say that “it went right over your head” when the person doesn’t understand…it doesn’t work like that, but Magick sure thinks so…

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
Theres a guy in our office who is borderline retarded, he constantly says things that don’t make sense, like at all. I often end up with a “huh?” look on my face. Then he indicates that what he said went over my head.[/quote]

Did you just admit that the stuff a borderline retard says goes over your head?[/quote]

No, I wasn’t clear enough.

He says things that don’t make sense…to anybody.

you can’t just say stupid shit that doesn’t make sense, then say that “it went right over your head” when the person doesn’t understand…it doesn’t work like that, but Magick sure thinks so…[/quote]

I’m just messing with you.

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Magick said:

"So long as I know that I’ve actually done a good job and that people will agree with me on that if they pay attention to it. "

Is this an attempt at a sentence?

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:
my point is that you can run into situations where you quickly loose motivation in the field due to the BS that you may have to put up with.

Which is why some may arrive to the point where they just work and get their shit done and loose motivation to try and go above and beyond.
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And my point was that if you do it for personal satisfaction, then it doesn’t really matter what BS you put up with.

Not sure how you found that unclear based on my previous post.

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
Theres a guy in our office who is borderline retarded, he constantly says things that don’t make sense, like at all. I often end up with a “huh?” look on my face. Then he indicates that what he said went over my head.[/quote]

Did you just admit that the stuff a borderline retard says goes over your head?[/quote]

No, I wasn’t clear enough.

He says things that don’t make sense…to anybody.

you can’t just say stupid shit that doesn’t make sense, then say that “it went right over your head” when the person doesn’t understand…it doesn’t work like that, but Magick sure thinks so…[/quote]

I’m just messing with you.[/quote]

I believe your post went right over his head. Are you a borderline retard?

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[quote]CLINK wrote:
Almost everyone who has made a historical dent in a chosen field has NOT taken the path. They were all dreamers.

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That’s what I’m saying.

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
my point is that you can run into situations where you quickly loose motivation in the field due to the BS that you may have to put up with.

Which is why some may arrive to the point where they just work and get their shit done and loose motivation to try and go above and beyond.
[/quote]

Hear that? That’s the sound of my post going “WHOOSH” over your head.[/quote]

Form a coherent sentence, then get back to me…
[/quote]

Perhaps next time you could actually write “I don’t know wtf you’re talking about, clarify” instead of repeating your point.

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:
If you are going to be a plumber only do new construction.
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i’ve done plumbing and that is the truth. Service plumbing is rather shitty…

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
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I can’t put too much stock in what you say if you haven’t been “old” (50+). From what I hear, the body can take a quick turn for the worst and it goes down hill quickly, sure at 45, 50 or even 55 you feel pretty good, but all of a sudden you turn 58, 61, 63 yrs old and shit ain’t the same…from what I hear…from EVERY person who has experienced these ages.[/quote]

I’m 51.

You weren’t talking about 63, you said 45 or 50. The reason the people you have spoken to that are falling apart is that they don’t do any manual labor.

Sure I don’t want to be digging ditches when I’m seventy five but that doesn’t mean I have to get kids to tie my shoes now.
[/quote]

I’m talking about career-wise…the whole thing…up to retirement. I first said 45/50 cause this is when I figure the body begins* to start to ache etc.

I just asking if people think it’s feasible to have a “LABOR” type job all the way till retirement[/quote]

I’ve known many that work beyond retirement in fabrication and welding. A fabrication shop I was in earlier this year is owned by a 75 year old man. He shows up every day even though he could have retired 25 years ago. At 8:00 he’s moving (pretty damn fast too) and expects the same from everybody else. His speed and precision is second to none, and he’s laughing and joking the entire time. Shop environments are usually quite nice for the most part, but not necessarily. Space costs money and it will be used to the fullest.

In a different environment I’ve been blown away (at 42) by many guys near and past retirement age, and that is in dirty dark nasty bunghole spaces that were built before building codes even existed. They work better, faster, and smarter than any young buck can even imagine and have a good time doing it.

It may be partly due to being in decent shape heavy labor included, but a lot of my friends who are in relatively sedentary positions are the ones falling apart and developing old people problems.

Athough, for the record, at 65 or so I do not want to be crawling around in the hull spaces of barges, monkeying around in rafters or fucking around inside of a heat transfer system.