Turn a Side Hobby Into Job?

[optheta]

So I’ve sorta realized I don’t like my major that much(Accounting and Information Technology) and I am still going through with getting my degree since I am almost done and I have a better chance at getting a job with it.

But I would like to have a side hobby/Interest that I can pursue on the side and potentially turn that into a job.

I was wondering has anybody successfully made a hobby into a career after they had establish job?

I’m starting to really like Graphic Design and Creative Writing( I know 2 totally different things) but I would like to pursue one and just practice it in my free time.

So anybody on T-Nation got any tips on this subject? And the likely hood of it becoming successful with it.

[Derek542]

You can always try porn

[Sutebun]

[quote]optheta wrote:
So I’ve sorta realized I don’t like my major that much(Accounting and Information Technology) and I am still going through with getting my degree since I am almost done and I have a better chance at getting a job with it.

But I would like to have a side hobby/Interest that I can pursue on the side and potentially turn that into a job.

I was wondering has anybody successfully made a hobby into a career after they had establish job?

I’m starting to really like Graphic Design and Creative Writing( I know 2 totally different things) but I would like to pursue one and just practice it in my free time.

So anybody on T-Nation got any tips on this subject? And the likely hood of it becoming successful with it.[/quote]

You’ll never know if you don’t try.

Find some job(s) you can do which pay alright but do not take up too much time/concentration. Use the free time to explore and pursue your passions while making the transition to do it professionally.

I really get what you’re saying as I’m 25 and hitting that “what do I really want to do” twenties crisis. I’ll tell you one thing I noticed about 95% of the people doing something they’re passionate about professionally:

It didn’t come easy.

[HoustonGuy]

Just be careful sucking dick. You can go to jail for that.

*obvious reference to prostitution in before “orly, how do you know?”

[HoustonGuy]

Serious answer, you can make money on anything with a market. What kind of question is this?

[DarkNinjaa]

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
You can always try porn[/quote]

^Listen to this guy. He speaks the truth.

Get yourself a camera, a massive cock and some girls who love to blow. And you’re set.

Sex sells. I made millions bucks doing that shit.

[groo]

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
You can always try porn[/quote]

^Listen to this guy. He speaks the truth. Get yourself a camera, a massive cock and some girls who love to blow. And you’re set.

Sex sells. I made millions bucks doing that shit.
[/quote]
Pics or GTFO

[Derek542]

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Serious answer, you can make money on anything with a market. What kind of question is this?[/quote]

Same as always, you are rich right?

Send me money for my awesomeness it is worth it.

I dont want to work I just want to stumble into millions.

[HoustonGuy]

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Serious answer, you can make money on anything with a market. What kind of question is this?[/quote]

Same as always, you are rich right?

Send me money for my awesomeness it is worth it.

I dont want to work I just want to stumble into millions. [/quote]
Wouldn’t that be nice.

What do you mean “same as always”?

I will give you my formula for success and a viewpoint.

Viewpoint:

Money moves like a river. Either position yourself at the well head or build a really big dam.

Formula:

Understand how to build a particular dam and do it, don’t just think about it. Kayaking someone else’s river is fun until you hit their dam.

Done.

[Derek542]

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Serious answer, you can make money on anything with a market. What kind of question is this?[/quote]

Same as always, you are rich right?

Send me money for my awesomeness it is worth it.

I dont want to work I just want to stumble into millions. [/quote]
Wouldn’t that be nice.

What do you mean “same as always”?

I will give you my formula for success and a viewpoint.

Viewpoint:

Money moves like a river. Either position yourself at the well head or build a really big dam.

Formula:

Understand how to build a particular dam and do it, don’t just think about it. Kayaking someone else’s river is fun until you hit their dam.

Done.[/quote]

Same as always as in TN every three months somebody starting a thread in this capacity.

I run a long term view HG, I have a degree on the wall that I am leveraging in my business. I cannot take risks at all, I have 5 kids to take care of.

[Dr_Matt581]

[quote]optheta wrote:
So I’ve sorta realized I don’t like my major that much(Accounting and Information Technology) and I am still going through with getting my degree since I am almost done and I have a better chance at getting a job with it.

But I would like to have a side hobby/Interest that I can pursue on the side and potentially turn that into a job.

I was wondering has anybody successfully made a hobby into a career after they had establish job?

I’m starting to really like Graphic Design and Creative Writing( I know 2 totally different things) but I would like to pursue one and just practice it in my free time.

So anybody on T-Nation got any tips on this subject? And the likely hood of it becoming successful with it.[/quote]

What is it you do not like about accounting or IT?

It really depends on what you mean by “successful.” Successful does not just mean that you make a lot of money. If graphical design or creative writing are what you really want to do and makes you happy and money is not an issue with you, then go for it. But, it is a lot harder to make “decent” money in those fields then something like accounting or IT and will require a lot more effort. Not impossible, but it is harder and not nearly as likely. Also, you have no idea if you “like” IT or accounting yet since your experience is limited to college and maybe an internship. Before you go and start putting the kind of effort into switching careers before you even start the one you have already spent years studying for, give that one an honest shot.

Now for the hard question, and you don’t have to answer me, but you should spend a lot of time actually thinking about it because this is important and I see young people make this mistake all the time, even though they will never admit it: Are you interested in graphic design and creative writing because you are genuinely interested or because those are considered “cool” by young people today, especially girls, and you think doing one of those will help get you laid more (and believe me it does, I see it all the time at the school I teach at)? Really think about that, because if you just want to get laid, those college age girls eventually do mature and grow up into women and realize that those sensitive creative types do not usually live up to their dreams and expectations. Do you know what older women tend to find more attractive? A man with a stable job, good salary, a good retirement plan, a house, a car, and a good head on his shoulders. You should be spending your time after college building a good career and doing those creative things in your spare time. It will not likely be worth it to spend the kind of time it would take to make a “good” career in them. Again, it is not impossible, but it will be much harder and your chances of failure go up a lot.

[HoustonGuy]

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Serious answer, you can make money on anything with a market. What kind of question is this?[/quote]

Same as always, you are rich right?

Send me money for my awesomeness it is worth it.

I dont want to work I just want to stumble into millions. [/quote]
Wouldn’t that be nice.

What do you mean “same as always”?

I will give you my formula for success and a viewpoint.

Viewpoint:

Money moves like a river. Either position yourself at the well head or build a really big dam.

Formula:

Understand how to build a particular dam and do it, don’t just think about it. Kayaking someone else’s river is fun until you hit their dam.

Done.[/quote]

Same as always as in TN every three months somebody starting a thread in this capacity.

I run a long term view HG, I have a degree on the wall that I am leveraging in my business. I cannot take risks at all, I have 5 kids to take care of.

[/quote]
That’s cool. Not judging at all, just a brief glimpse into the mentality of one particular entrepreneur.

To each their own though I will say successful risk taking in the immediate sets up a nice long term. It is easy when you only have yourself to think about though.

[Derek542]

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Serious answer, you can make money on anything with a market. What kind of question is this?[/quote]

Same as always, you are rich right?

Send me money for my awesomeness it is worth it.

I dont want to work I just want to stumble into millions. [/quote]
Wouldn’t that be nice.

What do you mean “same as always”?

I will give you my formula for success and a viewpoint.

Viewpoint:

Money moves like a river. Either position yourself at the well head or build a really big dam.

Formula:

Understand how to build a particular dam and do it, don’t just think about it. Kayaking someone else’s river is fun until you hit their dam.

Done.[/quote]

Same as always as in TN every three months somebody starting a thread in this capacity.

I run a long term view HG, I have a degree on the wall that I am leveraging in my business. I cannot take risks at all, I have 5 kids to take care of.

[/quote]
That’s cool. Not judging at all, just a brief glimpse into the mentality of one particular entrepreneur.

To each their own though I will say successful risk taking in the immediate sets up a nice long term. It is easy when you only have yourself to think about though. [/quote]

Plus I have limited liquid money most is already tied up and paying for investments.

Things will change in a few years when it is just the wife and I. Youngest is 16 so we only have a few more years and I am not even 40 yet.

[SteelyD]

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

Get yourself … a massive cock

[/quote]

LOL.

OP, let me know what you find. I could use an upgrade, myself.

[Derek542]

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

Get yourself … a massive cock

[/quote]

LOL.

OP, let me know what you find. I could use a trade in myself.[/quote]

Here is one with a little pussy

[sam_sneed1]

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

What is it you do not like about accounting or IT?

It really depends on what you mean by “successful.” Successful does not just mean that you make a lot of money. If graphical design or creative writing are what you really want to do and makes you happy and money is not an issue with you, then go for it. But, it is a lot harder to make “decent” money in those fields then something like accounting or IT and will require a lot more effort. Not impossible, but it is harder and not nearly as likely. Also, you have no idea if you “like” IT or accounting yet since your experience is limited to college and maybe an internship. Before you go and start putting the kind of effort into switching careers before you even start the one you have already spent years studying for, give that one an honest shot.

[/quote]

I agree. I’ve been in IT for over 10 years. When I was in college, they only had Computer Science courses (no IT majors). I hated 90% of them. A career in IT was nothing like my college experiences. Even job to job it makes a big difference. Helpdesk work sucked. Network engineering was satisfying. Now IT management is also good. But if you really don’t like technology in general, then I can understand.

People always say “Do you what love and it’ll never feel like work.” . I don’t believe this. Once it becomes work, it feels like work. I’m sure many may disagree.

[HoustonGuy]

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Serious answer, you can make money on anything with a market. What kind of question is this?[/quote]

Same as always, you are rich right?

Send me money for my awesomeness it is worth it.

I dont want to work I just want to stumble into millions. [/quote]
Wouldn’t that be nice.

What do you mean “same as always”?

I will give you my formula for success and a viewpoint.

Viewpoint:

Money moves like a river. Either position yourself at the well head or build a really big dam.

Formula:

Understand how to build a particular dam and do it, don’t just think about it. Kayaking someone else’s river is fun until you hit their dam.

Done.[/quote]

Same as always as in TN every three months somebody starting a thread in this capacity.

I run a long term view HG, I have a degree on the wall that I am leveraging in my business. I cannot take risks at all, I have 5 kids to take care of.

[/quote]
That’s cool. Not judging at all, just a brief glimpse into the mentality of one particular entrepreneur.

To each their own though I will say successful risk taking in the immediate sets up a nice long term. It is easy when you only have yourself to think about though. [/quote]

Plus I have limited liquid money most is already tied up and paying for investments.

Things will change in a few years when it is just the wife and I. Youngest is 16 so we only have a few more years and I am not even 40 yet.[/quote]
That’s cool man. None of my comments were directed at you. Just a response in general. You have entrepreneurs and you have employees. Some employees are very well compensated, Hoover Dams. Some are on a rubber raft bouncing around. I don’t doubt a “secure” position in an established organization can serve its purpose where the ability to take risk is limited.

I, personally, dislike authority, will not cater to politics or seniority for seniority’s sake, and can’t stand knowing other people are profiting on the gap between my compensation and actual worth. These things, combined with the ability to just “get another job” had I failed pushed me to risk big. But again, if I “lose” I’ll be frustrated but I’ll either try again or get hired and deal with it. Technically as long as I have shelter and food I’m allright, major domestic concerns tempering my decisions. So far so good though. I just hope fuckbama realizes some “main street” businesses fall under his tax assault plan too.

[Derek542]

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Serious answer, you can make money on anything with a market. What kind of question is this?[/quote]

Same as always, you are rich right?

Send me money for my awesomeness it is worth it.

I dont want to work I just want to stumble into millions. [/quote]
Wouldn’t that be nice.

What do you mean “same as always”?

I will give you my formula for success and a viewpoint.

Viewpoint:

Money moves like a river. Either position yourself at the well head or build a really big dam.

Formula:

Understand how to build a particular dam and do it, don’t just think about it. Kayaking someone else’s river is fun until you hit their dam.

Done.[/quote]

Same as always as in TN every three months somebody starting a thread in this capacity.

I run a long term view HG, I have a degree on the wall that I am leveraging in my business. I cannot take risks at all, I have 5 kids to take care of.

[/quote]
That’s cool. Not judging at all, just a brief glimpse into the mentality of one particular entrepreneur.

To each their own though I will say successful risk taking in the immediate sets up a nice long term. It is easy when you only have yourself to think about though. [/quote]

Plus I have limited liquid money most is already tied up and paying for investments.

Things will change in a few years when it is just the wife and I. Youngest is 16 so we only have a few more years and I am not even 40 yet.[/quote]
That’s cool man. None of my comments were directed at you. Just a response in general. You have entrepreneurs and you have employees. Some employees are very well compensated, Hoover Dams. Some are on a rubber raft bouncing around. I don’t doubt a “secure” position in an established organization can serve its purpose where the ability to take risk is limited.

I, personally, dislike authority, will not cater to politics or seniority for seniority’s sake, and can’t stand knowing other people are profiting on the gap between my compensation and actual worth. These things, combined with the ability to just “get another job” had I failed pushed me to risk big. But again, if I “lose” I’ll be frustrated but I’ll either try again or get hired and deal with it. Technically as long as I have shelter and food I’m allright, major domestic concerns tempering my decisions. So far so good though. I just hope fuckbama realizes some “main street” businesses fall under his tax assault plan too.[/quote]

I know they were not directed at me HG I was just posting.

After 20 years in the medical field and spending 14 years of college I had some choices to make. I have put myself in a position where my talent, skill and hard work will put me at the level of a business owner in a few years. Most medical people do not get that opportunity.

As far as it relates to the original topic I used my License and education to get into and develop something of a career that can give me everything I want. It would be fucking stupid and pointless to waste all I did and have to then not use it and pursue some hobby venture that is 90% doomed to fail. IMO

[HoustonGuy]

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Serious answer, you can make money on anything with a market. What kind of question is this?[/quote]

Same as always, you are rich right?

Send me money for my awesomeness it is worth it.

I dont want to work I just want to stumble into millions. [/quote]
Wouldn’t that be nice.

What do you mean “same as always”?

I will give you my formula for success and a viewpoint.

Viewpoint:

Money moves like a river. Either position yourself at the well head or build a really big dam.

Formula:

Understand how to build a particular dam and do it, don’t just think about it. Kayaking someone else’s river is fun until you hit their dam.

Done.[/quote]

Same as always as in TN every three months somebody starting a thread in this capacity.

I run a long term view HG, I have a degree on the wall that I am leveraging in my business. I cannot take risks at all, I have 5 kids to take care of.

[/quote]
That’s cool. Not judging at all, just a brief glimpse into the mentality of one particular entrepreneur.

To each their own though I will say successful risk taking in the immediate sets up a nice long term. It is easy when you only have yourself to think about though. [/quote]

Plus I have limited liquid money most is already tied up and paying for investments.

Things will change in a few years when it is just the wife and I. Youngest is 16 so we only have a few more years and I am not even 40 yet.[/quote]
That’s cool man. None of my comments were directed at you. Just a response in general. You have entrepreneurs and you have employees. Some employees are very well compensated, Hoover Dams. Some are on a rubber raft bouncing around. I don’t doubt a “secure” position in an established organization can serve its purpose where the ability to take risk is limited.

I, personally, dislike authority, will not cater to politics or seniority for seniority’s sake, and can’t stand knowing other people are profiting on the gap between my compensation and actual worth. These things, combined with the ability to just “get another job” had I failed pushed me to risk big. But again, if I “lose” I’ll be frustrated but I’ll either try again or get hired and deal with it. Technically as long as I have shelter and food I’m allright, major domestic concerns tempering my decisions. So far so good though. I just hope fuckbama realizes some “main street” businesses fall under his tax assault plan too.[/quote]

I know they were not directed at me HG I was just posting.

After 20 years in the medical field and spending 14 years of college I had some choices to make. I have put myself in a position where my talent, skill and hard work will put me at the level of a business owner in a few years. Most medical people do not get that opportunity.

As far as it relates to the original topic I used my License and education to get into and develop something of a career that can give me everything I want. It would be fucking stupid and pointless to waste all I did and have to then not use it and pursue some hobby venture that is 90% doomed to fail. IMO
[/quote]
I totally agree that a venture with a 90% failure rate would be a huge waste of resources.

[Dr_Pangloss]

[quote]optheta wrote:
So I’ve sorta realized I don’t like my major that much(Accounting and Information Technology) and I am still going through with getting my degree since I am almost done and I have a better chance at getting a job with it.

But I would like to have a side hobby/Interest that I can pursue on the side and potentially turn that into a job.

I was wondering has anybody successfully made a hobby into a career after they had establish job?

I’m starting to really like Graphic Design and Creative Writing( I know 2 totally different things) but I would like to pursue one and just practice it in my free time.

So anybody on T-Nation got any tips on this subject? And the likely hood of it becoming successful with it.[/quote]

I’ll throw this out there: Nothing kills your enthusiasm in a hobby like having to do it to make a living. I see it in guys who love cars and become mechanics. After 1000 brake pad replacements, the last thing they want to do is wrench on their own car. Guys who love hitting the gym, learn to hate it once they’ve become a personal trainer and spend 15 hours a week supervising housewives on treadmills.

Look at all the differences between HG and Derek. One is older, has a family, extensive higher education, and is self-professed risk averse. The other is younger, single, with a degree beyond a Bachelor’s, and is risk-seeking. Yet, they both see business ownership as some form of their ideal.

So, get your degree in accounting or IT or whatever it is and spend 5 years in the field figuring out where your niche is. Maybe you want to prepare returns for individuals. Maybe you want to start an IT firm targeting small businesses who can’t afford to keep a firm on full time retainer. Who knows, but look for fulfillment within your field and let your hobbies, be hobbies.