[quote]folly wrote:
I’ll go in the lunchroom at the office and heat up my chicken and veggies and listen to people tell me how good that looks. Then they get their Ramen noodles and white bread ham sandwich.
People ask how I can eat that much. I eat all the time. 3 meals just at work. I tell them that I have to eat that much or I’ll lose weight. That gets some fun looks.
Tri, I don’t know how you can eat 6K a day. I have trouble with 4K clean.
-folly[/quote]
I know what you mean about the workplace. I get people staring at my food, saying “That looks good,” then, “Early lunch?,” or “Late lunch?” (There’s this air about them that I don’t work just eat, when I just take 3 twenty min breaks instead of an hour.) Then they go and eat their deathcarbs and wrongfats. I think some people think that fitness is some kind of mystery or genetic abnormality and not only don’t think they can get there, but subconsciously defeat themselves before even trying it.
You know what else, now that I’m ranting, it baffles me that people will attain all these fancy degrees and have these ‘real world skills’ but still don’t have a clue about what they’re putting in their bodies, let alone what these foods do and the effect they have once they’re in the body.
Sigh. There are definitely some things I miss about endurance training…
It’s a beautiful thing.
This is why I fail to understand the endurance athletes suffereing from anorexia. Too much focus on weight and not power-to-weight.
The hardest thing about being an endurance athlete is eating clean. You can get away with eating anything really. Poor eating will affect performance years before it will affect weight gain. Thats what really tosses up athletes. They don’t see weight gain so they figure it isn’t affecting performance.
But hell, a box of donuts is what I call performance.
Of course, you pay for it by looking like you never ate after breast feeding.
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Haha. Very true. I do think there’s much more room for less than clean eating for athletes as opposed to bodybuilders. Of course, I strove to eat mostly clean, get plenty of protein, etc… as endurance athlete, but I definitely had some room to play as well without performance suffering. If the furnace is hot enough, anything will burn. lol.
There are definitely too many endurance athletes with eating issues, especially girls. I attribute a lot of it to coaches telling girls that losing 5 lbs will help their performance a lot. Too often, the start of a vicious cycle. Cross country women have some of the nicest bodies of seen, but there’s also far to many walking skeltons.
And isn’t it funny how, when you don’t partake of these glorious bundles of fried dough with sugar, someone will invariably ask “but with that body, surely you can eat all the donuts you want???” [WTF!?!?!?] It’s always someone who’s out of shape, too. I don’t even try to explain, I thought it would be obvious that if I don’t have a gut, it’s because I don’t eat donuts on a regular basis. “Fitness Dichotomy” indeed!
People…[/quote]
Seriously. Those are the kind of people that belong in my idiot thread. Our heads are supposed to do more than sit atop our necks.
Nearly every time someone tries to talk me into committing assisted glycemic suicide, it is by using a question along the lines of “What would happen if you ate just ONE piece of cake?” What happens if I don’t? Many people just can’t understand that it is not only possible to repress cravings but eliminate them all together…
[quote]michael2507 wrote:
Nearly every time someone tries to talk me into committing assisted glycemic suicide, it is by using a question along the lines of “What would happen if you ate just ONE piece of cake?” What happens if I don’t? Many people just can’t understand that it is not only possible to repress cravings but eliminate them all together…[/quote]
What do you tell them? Nothing much will probably happen if they eat ONE piece of cake, occasionally. The problem is many people tend to view occasionally as once per day. lol
[quote]michael2507 wrote:
Nearly every time someone tries to talk me into committing assisted glycemic suicide, it is by using a question along the lines of “What would happen if you ate just ONE piece of cake?” What happens if I don’t? Many people just can’t understand that it is not only possible to repress cravings but eliminate them all together…[/quote]
That’s right. But those people can’t imagine living without the foods these cravings are associated with. One of the many reasons that they are in sad shape and poor health. Maybe also an indication they’ve never been in shape in their life.
It is a daunting task but it is also very fun. I probably only have about an hour between meals by the time I finish eating. The only other breaks are sleeping and training.
Even sleeping I wake up halfway and have another Grow! with flax oil and an orange.
This is all just to keep from dipping from skinny to scrawny.
[quote]TriGWU wrote:
Of the 6k clean… about 700 is Surge.
It is a daunting task but it is also very fun.[/quote]
Bro, I don’t know if I could afford 6,000 calories a day, even with a bunch of them from supplements. Worth a try though. But it doesn’t help that vegetables cost more than ice cream.
[quote]Minotaur wrote:
TriGWU wrote:
Of the 6k clean… about 700 is Surge.
It is a daunting task but it is also very fun.
Bro, I don’t know if I could afford 6,000 calories a day, even with a bunch of them from supplements. Worth a try though. But it doesn’t help that vegetables cost more than ice cream.[/quote]
I go with Costco for everything but Flax Oil/Meal, Peanut Butter, and bulk Granola.
I would guess it is around $300 p/ month for food? Some stuff lasts longer. I buy for 2 weeks. The stuff with a + lasts a very long time.
2 Bags Chicken
1 Large Can Tuna
3 Frozen Brocolli
2 Frozen Green Beans
14 Frozen Spinach
6 XLarge tubs of Cottage Cheese (2%)
2 Frozen Berries
1 Box Oranges
2 Bags Apples
3 Bunches Bananas
2 Bags of Peppers
1 Box Nectarines
1 Carton Cherries
1 Carton Kiwi
1 Box Canned Peaches*
1 Bag Walnuts+
1 Bag Almonds+
1 Box Quaker Old-Fashoined Oatmeal+
*After long training sessions I consume the entire can (including the syrup) after my Surge. Psychologically, this stuff is like liquid Glycogen.
Yea, I used to have to do about 6000kcal a day when I did heavy labor plus lifting. Work, eat, groceries, lift and protein shakes out the ying yang. It doesn’t leave room for much else. At least my sister has a garden that buffers the food bill.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
michael2507 wrote:
Nearly every time someone tries to talk me into committing assisted glycemic suicide, it is by using a question along the lines of “What would happen if you ate just ONE piece of cake?” What happens if I don’t? Many people just can’t understand that it is not only possible to repress cravings but eliminate them all together…
What do you tell them? Nothing much will probably happen if they eat ONE piece of cake, occasionally. The problem is many people tend to view occasionally as once per day. lol[/quote]
I actually ask them what would happen if I don’t. Some of them pretend to be slightly offended as a host whose hospitality has just been rejected. But can trying to forcefeed a guest with junk food he doesn’t like in the first place be considered as hospitality, all the more in cases where my nutritional habits are known?
I actually ask them what would happen if I don’t. Some of them pretend to be slightly offended as a host whose hospitality has just been rejected. But can trying to forcefeed a guest with junk food he doesn’t like in the first place be considered as hospitality, all the more in cases where my nutritional habits are known?[/quote]
Actually, no. A good host works to avoid putting his guests under pressure. Forcefeeding a guest is pressure. If a guest says, “No, thanks” they should take it with a smile and offer whatever it is to the next victim. Guests should not have to explain why not and defend themselves from food.
What it boils down to is that the majority of Americans are just lazy. Most people simply do not like to exert themselves physically and would rather take the path of least resistance. They take their health for granted. All you have to do is look around on an average day…everyone, at least to me, seems either “soft”, “fat” or “skinny fat”.
This sounds corny, but I remember when I was a little boy, I had some of the superhero figures, and I remember being so amazed at the musculature of those plastic figures. It was then that I developed my picture of the ultimate male physique…and the rest, as they say, is history. I have been on a constant pursuit ever since.
In fact, I am so jaded that I can’t even fathom why a male would not lift weights. MEN ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MUSCULAR…RIGHT?? I just shake my head when I see guys with these weak little “skinny fat” bodies. I wonder why they are content to go through life looking like that.
I love the comments I get at work too. My office is near the door, so my co-workers are constantly going by and seeing me eating portions of food that are 2-3x the amount they eat. This one guy always looks in and says, “that looks so good. I wish I could eat as much as you.” I always tell him he can, all he has to do is lift weights (at least he runs, so he’s not fat, just soft. There’s this woman who comes in regularly just to smell my food - no lie. Then she goes and eats a small salad with a diet Coke.
There’s this other, fat and soft guy who eats a mound of salad every day for lunch, never with meat. He can’t figure out why he stays fat. He went on the South Beach diet a year ago and actually lost about 20 lbs in 2 months, at which point I told him he could do even better if he worked out. Do you know what his response was?
“I’m waiting to get my weight down further before I add exercise.”
I flat out told him that was a crock of shit. He informed me that this was his doctor’s advice. Mind you, he was an otherwise healthy 34 year old, so there were no medical reasons why he shouldn’t be exercising. There’s just this circle of ignorance that is all too often perpetuated by people in the medical industry. IDIOTS!
One more thing before I end this rant. I commute into Penn Station everyday. For those unfamiliar with the layout, there is an exit at the east end where there is a double staircase up to 7th ave with escalators on either side (1 up/1down when they actually work). I always take the stairs.
Guess who else takes the stairs? That’s right, all the thin people. Guess who is filling the long line to take the escalators? Who would’ve thought it - all the fatty fats after they’ve walked 3 abreast swinging their pudgy sausage arms around adding 2 feet to the distance I have to walk around them because they move like sloths.
I am disgusted daily by the obesity in this country.
[quote]gottatrain wrote:
This sounds corny, but I remember when I was a little boy, I had some of the superhero figures, and I remember being so amazed at the musculature of those plastic figures. It was then that I developed my picture of the ultimate male physique…and the rest, as they say, is history. I have been on a constant pursuit ever since. [/quote]
Me too!! I’m having trouble perfecting my kung-fu grip, though.
Today’s installment (and probably the last, otherwise this thread’ll be 824 pages long eventually), the office ordered in Mexican food (I didn’t partake). 1-pound burritos with refried beans, guacamole, sour cream, and greasy beef…mmm, mmm, good. My lunch: A handful of trail mix, and protein shake mixed with water…mmm, mmm, muscles.
I’ve come into Manhattan via Penn Station several times on biz, and you’re absolutely right about the fat lazy bastards taking the escalator. Look in any mall, airport, office building, etc.
As for health care professionals, it is completely absurd how uneducated these morons are when it comes to the benefits of exercise. Hell, my PCP is a young guy in his mid to late 30s and he’s easily 60-70 pounds overweight. My take on it is that it is easier for them to push a pill on their patients than it is for them to actually educate them. Ever see doctors/nurses standing outside of a hospital taking a smoke break? Talk about a fucking dichotomy.
[quote]gottatrain wrote:
I’ve come into Manhattan via Penn Station several times on biz, and you’re absolutely right about the fat lazy bastards taking the escalator. Look in any mall, airport, office building, etc.
As for health care professionals, it is completely absurd how uneducated these morons are when it comes to the benefits of exercise. Hell, my PCP is a young guy in his mid to late 30s and he’s easily 60-70 pounds overweight. My take on it is that it is easier for them to push a pill on their patients than it is for them to actually educate them. Ever see doctors/nurses standing outside of a hospital taking a smoke break? Talk about a fucking dichotomy.[/quote]
What’s worse is there’s a power lifter at my gym that takes smoke breaks from his workout. That’s just plain weird…
What’s worse is there’s a power lifter at my gym that takes smoke breaks from his workout. That’s just plain weird…
RB
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I agree. When you tinker with fat, protein, carb ratios and adjust this and that, working on all the minute details it looks pretty odd to see someone blatantly destroying their health.
[quote]I am disgusted daily by the obesity in this country.
Arrggghhhh!
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The whole culture in this country is becoming soft. I lead a group of 20 (average age) year old Marines who are all in higher than average shape. Eating habits and workout habits are one of the things we have begun to train our guys about. We run them and get them in the gym enough that they stay in decent shape but the majority of the kids that enlist these days don’t know about nutrition and physical fitness. Schools are getting rid of gym classes, sports programs are being cut. Even the kids who played sports aren’t very educated.
The military is small reflection of society, thank god we can order our guys to work out maintain a certain level of fitness. I would go nuts in an office environment, my hat is off to you all who stay hard in a job like that. I’m off to go shoot pistols.
