[quote]Babylat wrote:
If you switched the gender roles and had a man in that picture and a before picture where he was fat, most men would see that and be inspired. They wouldn’t see it as a personal attack and attack that person for achieving something. It doesn’t make any sense to do that.[/quote]
But women don’t make sense…
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
[quote]Babylat wrote:
If you switched the gender roles and had a man in that picture and a before picture where he was fat, most men would see that and be inspired. They wouldn’t see it as a personal attack and attack that person for achieving something. It doesn’t make any sense to do that.[/quote]
But women don’t make sense…[/quote]
It’s funny how all the stereotypes about women we were told to write off as sexist end up being true.
Even the study I posted earlier confirms one of them lol
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
[quote]Babylat wrote:
If you switched the gender roles and had a man in that picture and a before picture where he was fat, most men would see that and be inspired. They wouldn’t see it as a personal attack and attack that person for achieving something. It doesn’t make any sense to do that.[/quote]
But women don’t make sense…[/quote]
It’s funny how all the stereotypes about women we were told to write off as sexist end up being true.
Even the study I posted earlier confirms one of them lol [/quote]
couldn’t agree more
[quote]MytchBucanan wrote:
Sometimes I’m reminded how lucky I am to enjoy working out. Not once in 20 years have I gone to the gym and would have rather done something else. Plenty of folks just don’t have fun working out and they either struggle with weight/health or slave away enough to keep themselves in decent shape but never really feel satisfied.
If the gym bug bites you, you are truly blessed.[/quote]
this!
[quote]Babylat wrote:
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]StevenF wrote:
most people don’t like to be reminded that they’re fat pieces of lazy shit. [/quote]
I know you’re being facetious but in all seriousness this is true and it’s kind of a socially shithead move to tell them anyway. You might say it is poor manners…You don’t need to have much in the way of social skills to realize this kind of statement will not make you an inspiration but actually an asshole to the majority.
Everyone who already has a hard body will think you rock though lol. But if you’re selling fitness to the fatties it doesn’t seem like the smartest campaign. Except it got lots of attention so maybe it’ll bring her the business anyhow.
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To me it seems like she was genuinely trying to inspire people with that photo. You don’t post something like that to hurt people. You post it to let people know it’s possible to get back into shape after having kids.
It seems pretty irrational to think she’s doing that just to brag, and this is probably the problem. I’m guessing most of the people complaining are fat women. They thought it was an attack on them which is a completely irrational way to look at it.
If you switched the gender roles and had a man in that picture and a before picture where he was fat, most men would see that and be inspired. They wouldn’t see it as a personal attack and attack that person for achieving something. It doesn’t make any sense to do that.[/quote]
But “What’s your excuse” implies not pride in her own accomplishments, which would inspire, but a tsk-tsk to everyone who doesn’t look that way. Not everyone gives a shit about fitness, and why should they? I wouldn’t do it if I didn’t like it. Why do they need an excuse not to do it?
I get irritated when people lecture me about organic foods or homeopathic remedies vs. big pharm. Please feel free to pay as much as you want for your chicken breasts and help yourself to untested and generally ineffective cold medicines, but I simply do not care to engage in that. I’m happy as I am, eating plastics and carcinogens.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Babylat wrote:
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]StevenF wrote:
most people don’t like to be reminded that they’re fat pieces of lazy shit. [/quote]
I know you’re being facetious but in all seriousness this is true and it’s kind of a socially shithead move to tell them anyway. You might say it is poor manners…You don’t need to have much in the way of social skills to realize this kind of statement will not make you an inspiration but actually an asshole to the majority.
Everyone who already has a hard body will think you rock though lol. But if you’re selling fitness to the fatties it doesn’t seem like the smartest campaign. Except it got lots of attention so maybe it’ll bring her the business anyhow.
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To me it seems like she was genuinely trying to inspire people with that photo. You don’t post something like that to hurt people. You post it to let people know it’s possible to get back into shape after having kids.
It seems pretty irrational to think she’s doing that just to brag, and this is probably the problem. I’m guessing most of the people complaining are fat women. They thought it was an attack on them which is a completely irrational way to look at it.
If you switched the gender roles and had a man in that picture and a before picture where he was fat, most men would see that and be inspired. They wouldn’t see it as a personal attack and attack that person for achieving something. It doesn’t make any sense to do that.[/quote]
But “What’s your excuse” implies not pride in her own accomplishments, which would inspire, but a tsk-tsk to everyone who doesn’t look that way. Not everyone gives a shit about fitness, and why should they? I wouldn’t do it if I didn’t like it. Why do they need an excuse not to do it?
I get irritated when people lecture me about organic foods or homeopathic remedies vs. big pharm. Please feel free to pay as much as you want for your chicken breasts and help yourself to untested and generally ineffective cold medicines, but I simply do not care to engage in that. I’m happy as I am, eating plastics and carcinogens.[/quote]
You are spot on. Imagine if this was a rich person sitting in a drop top ferarri pointing at their Breitling saying “I never even went to college, what’s your excuse” to poor people. The chick who posted the pic and her little rant about why people are getting mad is just masturbating in a different way they shoving fingers inside.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Babylat wrote:
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]StevenF wrote:
most people don’t like to be reminded that they’re fat pieces of lazy shit. [/quote]
I know you’re being facetious but in all seriousness this is true and it’s kind of a socially shithead move to tell them anyway. You might say it is poor manners…You don’t need to have much in the way of social skills to realize this kind of statement will not make you an inspiration but actually an asshole to the majority.
Everyone who already has a hard body will think you rock though lol. But if you’re selling fitness to the fatties it doesn’t seem like the smartest campaign. Except it got lots of attention so maybe it’ll bring her the business anyhow.
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To me it seems like she was genuinely trying to inspire people with that photo. You don’t post something like that to hurt people. You post it to let people know it’s possible to get back into shape after having kids.
It seems pretty irrational to think she’s doing that just to brag, and this is probably the problem. I’m guessing most of the people complaining are fat women. They thought it was an attack on them which is a completely irrational way to look at it.
If you switched the gender roles and had a man in that picture and a before picture where he was fat, most men would see that and be inspired. They wouldn’t see it as a personal attack and attack that person for achieving something. It doesn’t make any sense to do that.[/quote]
But “What’s your excuse” implies not pride in her own accomplishments, which would inspire, but a tsk-tsk to everyone who doesn’t look that way. Not everyone gives a shit about fitness, and why should they? I wouldn’t do it if I didn’t like it. Why do they need an excuse not to do it?
I get irritated when people lecture me about organic foods or homeopathic remedies vs. big pharm. Please feel free to pay as much as you want for your chicken breasts and help yourself to untested and generally ineffective cold medicines, but I simply do not care to engage in that. I’m happy as I am, eating plastics and carcinogens.[/quote]
No, I don’t think so. It’s not a tsk tsk to women who don’t look that way. That doesn’t make sense. An excuse implies you want to get in shape already, but using an excuse on why you can’t, like having several kids for example. So getting in shape is important to the women it addresses.
It’s motivation through adversity. People don’t change or grow by patting them on their backs and simple encouragement. If that were the case things would be so much simpler and those people wouldn’t be fat to begin with. I’m sure family and friends encouraged them when they decided to try and lose weight and they quit a week or 2 later.
That picture shows the possibility of getting in shape after having several kids instead of women using the excuse that you can’t get your body back. It also shows that they are making excuses for their current body and health because it’s true. Sometimes the truth hurts and like I said providing adversity is the way you get people to change most of the time. Putting a caption up saying “You can do it.” isn’t going to inspire or change anyone.
This fine lady can bully me anytime she wants.
[quote]Babylat wrote:
No, I don’t think so. It’s not a tsk tsk to women who don’t look that way. That doesn’t make sense. An excuse implies you want to get in shape already, but using an excuse on why you can’t, like having several kids for example. So getting in shape is important to the women it addresses.
It’s motivation through adversity. People don’t change or grow by patting them on their backs and simple encouragement. If that were the case things would be so much simpler and those people wouldn’t be fat to begin with. I’m sure family and friends encouraged them when they decided to try and lose weight and they quit a week or 2 later.
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All of this assumes that her picture is merely reaching her intended/target audience.
But it obviously didn’t.
And it’s those who are not her target audience that are getting all pissy.
It’s like ouroboro_s wrote earlier. We’d all be pissed too if someone who’s in their early 30s made a poster showing his retirement fund with like a million dollars in it and captioning it “what’s your excuse?”
Folks here just find the situation laughable because the majority of us want to make exercise an important part of our lives, and we find it incomprehensible that others don’t share the same passions.
[quote]magick wrote:
It’s like ouroboro_s wrote earlier. We’d all be pissed too if someone who’s in their early 30s made a poster showing his retirement fund with like a million dollars in it and captioning it “what’s your excuse?”
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If he/she was born to a single mother on meth who was never there, on foodstamps, section8 housing and he/she pulled themselves up by the bootstraps I would find it very motivational.
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]magick wrote:
It’s like ouroboro_s wrote earlier. We’d all be pissed too if someone who’s in their early 30s made a poster showing his retirement fund with like a million dollars in it and captioning it “what’s your excuse?”
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If he/she was born to a single mother on meth who was never there, on foodstamps, section8 housing and he/she pulled themselves up by the bootstraps I would find it very motivational.[/quote]
I’d just feel worse and like a bigger loser.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]magick wrote:
It’s like ouroboro_s wrote earlier. We’d all be pissed too if someone who’s in their early 30s made a poster showing his retirement fund with like a million dollars in it and captioning it “what’s your excuse?”
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If he/she was born to a single mother on meth who was never there, on foodstamps, section8 housing and he/she pulled themselves up by the bootstraps I would find it very motivational.[/quote]
I’d just feel worse and like a bigger loser.
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Well that is because you are from Canada… lol.
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]magick wrote:
It’s like ouroboro_s wrote earlier. We’d all be pissed too if someone who’s in their early 30s made a poster showing his retirement fund with like a million dollars in it and captioning it “what’s your excuse?”
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If he/she was born to a single mother on meth who was never there, on foodstamps, section8 housing and he/she pulled themselves up by the bootstraps I would find it very motivational.[/quote]
Ya, well, everything looks better with context and more background info =D
[quote]magick wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]magick wrote:
It’s like ouroboro_s wrote earlier. We’d all be pissed too if someone who’s in their early 30s made a poster showing his retirement fund with like a million dollars in it and captioning it “what’s your excuse?”
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If he/she was born to a single mother on meth who was never there, on foodstamps, section8 housing and he/she pulled themselves up by the bootstraps I would find it very motivational.[/quote]
Ya, well, everything looks better with context and more background info =D
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or a lot of alcohol.
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]magick wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]magick wrote:
It’s like ouroboro_s wrote earlier. We’d all be pissed too if someone who’s in their early 30s made a poster showing his retirement fund with like a million dollars in it and captioning it “what’s your excuse?”
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If he/she was born to a single mother on meth who was never there, on foodstamps, section8 housing and he/she pulled themselves up by the bootstraps I would find it very motivational.[/quote]
Ya, well, everything looks better with context and more background info =D
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or a lot of alcohol.
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Or a long enough dry spell
I feel bad for those 3 kids.
[quote]gregron wrote:
I feel bad for those 3 kids.[/quote]
Why is that? Because they are the tools used to bully other people?
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
I feel bad for those 3 kids.[/quote]
Why is that? Because they are the tools used to bully other people?
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or because their mother will bully them into eating quality foods and being active, thus out casting them in the community as “healthy” kids. horrible parenting i tell ya
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
I feel bad for those 3 kids.[/quote]
Why is that? Because they are the tools used to bully other people?
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Because they are going to grow up their entire lives with all their friends wanting to bang their mom.
Poor bastards.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
I feel bad for those 3 kids.[/quote]
Why is that? Because they are the tools used to bully other people?
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Because they are going to grow up their entire lives with all their friends wanting to bang their mom.
Poor bastards.[/quote]
And their friends Dad will want to bang her also.
You think I can come over and play???