[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Many of these same women who “have no time to work out” can tell you what happened on the latest episode of Dancing With the Stars, Honey Boo Boo, Vampire Diaries, etc.[/quote]
I see that with clients daily.
The bigger problem is that people think that exercise is far more important/great equalizer than diet. From my experience, I’d say your average person thinks exercise is 95% of being lean, and diet is 5%. The ones who grasp that it’s the other way around are all my success stories.
Which brings me to another point, which is for all the people who complain about time: screw exercise, then. Pull your head out of your ass and get your diet in order, get healthy, and profit. It’s better to be lean and out of cardiovascular shape than to be fat and eating garbage but going to the gym every now and then.
I don’t think that ultimately the reaction to picture had anything to do with fat or fit shaming or had much of anything to do with diet and exercise.
The reason that it hit a target with a number of people is the same reason I get pissy about certain things or certain people, it hits a nerve with me just as her picture hit a nerve with them. In this instance it happens to be fit/non-fat centric. We all have things in our lives that we think we should do better or be better about be it a better parent, employee, global citizen etc. and are thin skinned about. In the case of this woman’s picture this just hit the centre of the nerve target for a lot of people who probably all believe they should be living healthier lives and her picture and statement reminds them that they aren’t.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
I don’t think that ultimately the reaction to picture had anything to do with fat or fit shaming or had much of anything to do with diet and exercise.
The reason that it hit a target with a number of people is the same reason I get pissy about certain things or certain people, it hits a nerve with me just as her picture hit a nerve with them. In this instance it happens to be fit/non-fat centric. We all have things in our lives that we think we should do better or be better about be it a better parent, employee, global citizen etc. and are thin skinned about. In the case of this woman’s picture this just hit the centre of the nerve target for a lot of people who probably all believe they should be living healthier lives and her picture and statement reminds them that they aren’t.[/quote]
I totally agree with the second part, but I don’t think that disqualifies it as fit shaming. In my mind, because of your paragraph 2, she was fit-shamed.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
I don’t think that ultimately the reaction to picture had anything to do with fat or fit shaming or had much of anything to do with diet and exercise.
The reason that it hit a target with a number of people is the same reason I get pissy about certain things or certain people, it hits a nerve with me just as her picture hit a nerve with them. In this instance it happens to be fit/non-fat centric. We all have things in our lives that we think we should do better or be better about be it a better parent, employee, global citizen etc. and are thin skinned about. In the case of this woman’s picture this just hit the centre of the nerve target for a lot of people who probably all believe they should be living healthier lives and her picture and statement reminds them that they aren’t.[/quote]
I totally agree with the second part, but I don’t think that disqualifies it as fit shaming. In my mind, because of your paragraph 2, she was fit-shamed.[/quote]
My interpretation of fit-shaming is that other people felt ‘fit-shamed’ by her, not her ‘fit-shamed’ by them. By that I understood people were upset because they felt her picture and statement was designed to shame them into feeling bad about their lack of fitness.
Whenever anything strikes a nerve with me, it’s generally because I feel less than worthy about something in my life. Her statement didn’t do anything to me because I already have an awesome state of fitness. Now replace her with a young person who has already invested a ton into a retirement plan and you’ve got me feeling pissy
[quote]StevenF wrote:
most people don’t like to be reminded that they’re fat pieces of lazy shit. [/quote]
I know you’re being facetious but in all seriousness this is true and it’s kind of a socially shithead move to tell them anyway. You might say it is poor manners…You don’t need to have much in the way of social skills to realize this kind of statement will not make you an inspiration but actually an asshole to the majority.
Everyone who already has a hard body will think you rock though lol. But if you’re selling fitness to the fatties it doesn’t seem like the smartest campaign. Except it got lots of attention so maybe it’ll bring her the business anyhow.
[quote]Fuzzyapple.Train wrote:
I have found a woman I am dating that thinks exactly what she just posted about the people hating on her. That it is their problem. It makes life and a relationship so much easier. I recommend trying to find someone who is spiritual and understands that in order to get what you want you have to think it. What you think you become. Very powerful stuff.
She is absolutely beautiful. I hope to aspire to be someone so successful as herself. [/quote]
And if you keep up that awe-struck persona you will lose her.
[quote]StevenF wrote:
most people don’t like to be reminded that they’re fat pieces of lazy shit. [/quote]
I know you’re being facetious but in all seriousness this is true and it’s kind of a socially shithead move to tell them anyway. You might say it is poor manners…You don’t need to have much in the way of social skills to realize this kind of statement will not make you an inspiration but actually an asshole to the majority.
Everyone who already has a hard body will think you rock though lol. But if you’re selling fitness to the fatties it doesn’t seem like the smartest campaign. Except it got lots of attention so maybe it’ll bring her the business anyhow.
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I agree with this, but selling fitness to fatties was already a lost sale.
People are lashing out at this chick because she is spiking the football, but she deserves to.
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Many of these same women who “have no time to work out” can tell you what happened on the latest episode of Dancing With the Stars, Honey Boo Boo, Vampire Diaries, etc.[/quote]
It all comes down to priorities. If fitness is a priority you will find the time. That simple.
[quote]Fuzzyapple.Train wrote:
I have found a woman I am dating that thinks exactly what she just posted about the people hating on her. That it is their problem. It makes life and a relationship so much easier. I recommend trying to find someone who is spiritual and understands that in order to get what you want you have to think it. What you think you become. Very powerful stuff.
She is absolutely beautiful. I hope to aspire to be someone so successful as herself. [/quote]
And if you keep up that awe-struck persona you will lose her.[/quote]
Not necessarily. Just don’t wear it on your sleeve. Respect in a relationship is obviously a good thing. I do get what you’re saying though.
[quote]Fuzzyapple.Train wrote:
I have found a woman I am dating that thinks exactly what she just posted about the people hating on her. That it is their problem. It makes life and a relationship so much easier. I recommend trying to find someone who is spiritual and understands that in order to get what you want you have to think it. What you think you become. Very powerful stuff.
She is absolutely beautiful. I hope to aspire to be someone so successful as herself. [/quote]
And if you keep up that awe-struck persona you will lose her.[/quote]
Not necessarily. Just don’t wear it on your sleeve. Respect in a relationship is obviously a good thing. I do get what you’re saying though.
Sometimes I’m reminded how lucky I am to enjoy working out. Not once in 20 years have I gone to the gym and would have rather done something else. Plenty of folks just don’t have fun working out and they either struggle with weight/health or slave away enough to keep themselves in decent shape but never really feel satisfied.
[quote]StevenF wrote:
most people don’t like to be reminded that they’re fat pieces of lazy shit. [/quote]
I know you’re being facetious but in all seriousness this is true and it’s kind of a socially shithead move to tell them anyway. You might say it is poor manners…You don’t need to have much in the way of social skills to realize this kind of statement will not make you an inspiration but actually an asshole to the majority.
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I’m going to play devil’s advocate here. Let’s say somebody has the following characteristics:
half-way decent social skills overall
but with some blind spots here and there
not particularly observant – e.g. did not notice how
people hated the kid who knew all the answers in math class
was mediocre in all ways and moderately
chubby up into her late twenties
outstanding in some way for the first time
roughly around the age of thirty
I think it is conceivable that such a person, despite having half-way decent social skills overall, might do what Maria Kang did and then be genuinely surprised at the reaction.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
I don’t think that ultimately the reaction to picture had anything to do with fat or fit shaming or had much of anything to do with diet and exercise.
The reason that it hit a target with a number of people is the same reason I get pissy about certain things or certain people, it hits a nerve with me just as her picture hit a nerve with them. In this instance it happens to be fit/non-fat centric. We all have things in our lives that we think we should do better or be better about be it a better parent, employee, global citizen etc. and are thin skinned about. In the case of this woman’s picture this just hit the centre of the nerve target for a lot of people who probably all believe they should be living healthier lives and her picture and statement reminds them that they aren’t.[/quote]
I totally agree with the second part, but I don’t think that disqualifies it as fit shaming. In my mind, because of your paragraph 2, she was fit-shamed.[/quote]
My interpretation of fit-shaming is that other people felt ‘fit-shamed’ by her, not her ‘fit-shamed’ by them. By that I understood people were upset because they felt her picture and statement was designed to shame them into feeling bad about their lack of fitness.
Whenever anything strikes a nerve with me, it’s generally because I feel less than worthy about something in my life. Her statement didn’t do anything to me because I already have an awesome state of fitness. Now replace her with a young person who has already invested a ton into a retirement plan and you’ve got me feeling pissy
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Yea, that’s probably the right interpretation of fit-shaming. Head-slapping moment for me.
[quote]StevenF wrote:
most people don’t like to be reminded that they’re fat pieces of lazy shit. [/quote]
I know you’re being facetious but in all seriousness this is true and it’s kind of a socially shithead move to tell them anyway. You might say it is poor manners…You don’t need to have much in the way of social skills to realize this kind of statement will not make you an inspiration but actually an asshole to the majority.
Everyone who already has a hard body will think you rock though lol. But if you’re selling fitness to the fatties it doesn’t seem like the smartest campaign. Except it got lots of attention so maybe it’ll bring her the business anyhow.
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To me it seems like she was genuinely trying to inspire people with that photo. You don’t post something like that to hurt people. You post it to let people know it’s possible to get back into shape after having kids.
It seems pretty irrational to think she’s doing that just to brag, and this is probably the problem. I’m guessing most of the people complaining are fat women. They thought it was an attack on them which is a completely irrational way to look at it.
If you switched the gender roles and had a man in that picture and a before picture where he was fat, most men would see that and be inspired. They wouldn’t see it as a personal attack and attack that person for achieving something. It doesn’t make any sense to do that.
