Hello everyone,
I’m starting my first Steroids cycle and I’m going to be recording my progress during the duration of the cycle. If you want to jump on board and journey with me, come on board!
Input from the experienced Bros is much appreciated! Please let me know your thoughts and thanks!
200mg a week of test is basically shutting down your own production of testosterone and bringing your levels back to what they would be normally. So your gains from your cycle are going to be almost solely from the anavar. May I ask how you came up with the 200mg dose?
Hi LevelUp I’ll follow along with you. Sub’d to your channel.
Hi there!
According to my research, a healthy adult male produces between 5 - 7 mg of testosterone per day. That’s about 50 mg per week on the higher end. The most accepted starting dosage per most out there is 500mg a week. As a first timer, I don’t feel very comfortable shooting up about 10 times the normal range. My system is not used to working with extra testosterone so a conservative 200mg (4 times the norm) should be plenty to begin with. With the anavar a few weeks later, I should have plenty to work with plus my body would have had time to adjust to the unexpected increase in test as I start and that will give me time to see how my body is reacting to it. A good analogy I read somewhere is that, as a first timer, my body would be very receptive to the “low dosage”, just like the body of a 21 year old is to drinking alcohol the first time he/she does so…it won’t take three or four shots to feel dizzy or get drunk like a 40 year old person that has been drinking for a while. That person is more resistant to alcohol but the younger counterpart would be intoxicated with half or one shot 
I understand your thought process but I don’t believe how much your body produces is the same as injecting into your body. It’s different. TRT doses vary between 100-200 and even upwards of that. So according to you they would be taking 2x-4x what a normal person makes meaning they aren’t on TRT but on cycle. It does not equate mg to mg in the blood.
Hi again LvLUp,
Are you open to suggestions for your first cycle?
I would highly recommend you get an AI(aromatase inhibitor) like Anastrozole(brand name Arimidex)
Even with 200mg/wk your E2 and prolactin are going to go over range rather quickly.
You will not enjoy the side effects of a sky high E2.
I’ll stop there for now incase you are not open to suggestions.
I second having an AI on hand is necessary no matter what dose you go with
Thanks! Oh I’m absolutely open of course! Strength in numbers bud. Please let me know what else I can do to maximize my first cycle. How many cycles have you done?
Depending on his SHGB he might not even get out of TRT land.
I wonder if he did a baseline on his bloods? I always like to know how thick my blood is before starting.
None but I have been on TRT for the last two years and I have been where you are going. My doc is extremely flexible. He has allowed me to experiment, with in reason. I have many blood tests to backup my suggestions.
200mg/wk of T cyp is the high end of TRT. Do you know your SHGB? That would help determine the proper weekly dose. Meaning this is not going to be a real cycle if your SHGB is high and you will basicly gain nothing for your efforts.
The typical 45 yo man has a t lvl between 450 and 700ng/dL your 200mg/wk will more than likely take you up to around ~1600ng/dL and that will take about 40 days since T cyp requires 40 days to reach steady state. You are going to have a tiny bit more energy and you will recover at the gym faster but that is it. At 200mg/wk you are just going to be slightly overranged for a guy on TRT. Which is nothing like what you will feel on a true cycle with TT readings of (2000-3000ng/dL)
You really need an AI in hand on standby. You really need your HCT before you do your first injection. You might need to donate blood before you start. There is a very good chance you will have to donate after this cycle. Remember blood banks won’t take you if your HCT is over 55. You will have to go to a doctor and pay for a bloodletting.
Thanks for the detailed info! Certainly appreciate the time you took to write to me. I did take my bloods and lipids profile before I started the cycle. I’ll post them in the next video update next weekend. I’ll be baring my soul on video documenting every aspect of this journey on a weekly basis on YouTube. Always open to input. That’s how we grow!
Hey Level,
I look forward to your journey. I was about the same size as you after 30 years training as a natty before taking the dive via trt and then blasting and cruising. Good luck.
the first two years I was on TRT it was unsupervised (UGL test, no doc). When I first started trying to go the legit route, I had my PCP run my test level. I was injecting .25ml test enanth every third day (test e 250, that routine averaged out to 145mg per week injected) - my level came back as >1500 (they were using the standard test, not the more sensitive and accurate one). I felt great in the gym and out, always had good days in the gym, after I leveled out it was slow, steady progress in the gym strength wise. Muscle wise, it was easy as shit to keep muscle and size on, stayed fairly lean (10-12%ish) without being anal with my diet - I didn’t get much bigger, it just kept me where I was at easier. And regarding AI, after the first few months, taking an AI caused my E2 to crash (this is becoming more widely known in TRT circles - your body adapts to the exogenous test and mostly stops aromatizing). Everyone is different, YMMV.
That level will probably help some, but it depends on what your goals are. Also, you mentioned being a hard gainer. Not trying to be a dick, but what that often equates to is someone who isn’t training and eating right to put on size. Surprised no one else asked, but we can offer better advice on this whole thing if you outline what your training and diet look like. If you have been doing your research (and I hope you have), then you will have seen where experienced users try to inform newbies that AAS is not a magic pill - it won’t put slabs of muscle on a guy who isn’t training hard and eating right. You still have to train your ass off and eat like a horse to get where you want to go. Not sure when you are starting your injections, but hopefully we can talk you into holding off at least a few more days or so until you can add that info. It may be a case where adjusting your diet and training gives you the results you are looking for.
Awesome, thanks for your thoughtful reply! I’ve been working out for over 25 years. I’m 45 years old. Surely did my research but by no means do I assume I know this world. No way, but my research led me to take the educated decision to start on the cycle. I’ll be sharing everything on YouTube and continue to be very open to all of you guys and your knowledge. Thanks for sharing!
Greetings everyone,
This is the recap of the end of the first week on cycle. This week’s video update…the journey continues…
Just touching base to see how last week went.
How is the water weight going? Any other side effects good and bad?
Will you be discussing your gym workouts? I am interested to know how you will determine strength improvements.
Thanks again for taking us along on your journey.
Hey there,
Last week went fine! Just threading along. All good. Can’t really tell whether or not I’m retaining any water yet. Just started anavar yesterday. I will discuss my workouts next week. I made a note to do so. Here is my two week update!
So I have a question regarding first cycles. I’m getting ready to start mine tomorrow. A friend of mine got some mast e 200, sustanon 250 and eq 250 from SP Pharma. Has anyone had any experiences with any gear from this brand before? Also he told me to do 1ml of each every 4 days on a 12 week cycle with arimidex .5mg every other day starting week two. Also I’m 35 and have low t and recently started doing weekly testosterone replacement shots at 200mg a week. My text level as of last week was at 163 and I just started the replacement shots last week. Any advice starting my first cycle!? Lol
Two things:
Greetings guys,
Just posting my week video update. Going good so far.
