First Pinning Cycle, What are Your Thoughts?

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hey everyone, ill keep this straight and to the point.
I’m 35, male, work out 5-6 days a week, 5’9" 190lbs 18%BF

I’ve done two oral cycles and want to give my liver a break, and am able to do a first cycle. this is what I have refined it down to, so please let me know your thoughts, and if you think its stupid, please don’t just say that, tell me why you think so.

with the Arimidex I will up it if i feel any sides coming.

week 1-14
225mg Test-E E3D
HCG 250iu E3D
Arimidex 0.25mg EOD

week 15-16
Arimidex 0.25mg EOD
HCG 500iu E3D

Week 17-18
Nolva 40mg Everyday
Clomid 50mg Everyday

week 19-20
Nolva 20mg Every day (continue till gone)
Clomid 50mg Every day (continue till gone)

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This is a solid cycle, you don’t NEED clomid and nolva though, if you can get away with it (some need clomid, it’s trial and error) you’d want to use nolva only as clomid can have some nasty side effects in terms of mental health. Also your first two cycles were terrible idea’s, oral only cycles don’t give optimal gains and have just as much shut down (plus orals are far less safe compared to injectable AAS)

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Yes I know oral only is not good, and I stacked a few together which i know is horrible. I wasn’t able to use pins at that time. now I can so I want to do something proper and get away form being so hard on the liver.
Never heard that stance on running clomid and nolva together. nor have I heard anyone say bad sides of clomid. should I lower the clomid to 25mg?

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So what did you use (out of curiousity), like was it orals like winny, dbol, var, drol etc or was it the designer steroid stuff that they still sell on ebay like epi, msten, dienolone etc.

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First cylce was
Anavar, Winni, Turinabol with nolva
Anavar, Turinabol, Anadrol with Nolva

I know I know, brutal on the liver,

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I don’t think you need to increase the HCG in weeks 15-16. Your protocol of 250iu twice weekly on cycle is good, so just continue that out for those two weeks.

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thanks, some people advised me to just do 1500 e3d during PCT but after reading alot on HCG it seems only smart to run the whole cycle. Should i wait a week to start the HCG on week 2?

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No, you can start it concurrently with the test. 1,500 E3D is an insane dosage. HCG can cause aromatization within the testes, which means an AI is ineffective at treating it. You could get high e2 issues just from taking too much HCG and you can’t stop it with aromasin or anastrozole.

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all things I read too, thus me wanting to just do the 250 E3D. Thanks for the info guys, Im looking forward to seeing what this does. I start next saturday