[quote]Hagar wrote:
23 is fine but your cycle isn’t. [/quote]
No offence, man, but who are you to tell me? By PM me some site where you claim there to be “experienced users” and saying, more or less, that the people on T-Nation.com don’t know what they are talking about, would lead me to believe that it is YOU who is full of BS. Please leave me alone now and run along… Please and thank you
[quote]Jakebambeeno wrote:
Hagar wrote:
23 is fine but your cycle isn’t.
No offence, man, but who are you to tell me? By PM me some site where you claim there to be “experienced users” and saying, more or less, that the people on T-Nation.com don’t know what they are talking about, would lead me to believe that it is YOU who is full of BS. Please leave me alone now and run along… Please and thank you[/quote]
In trying to understand the tattered english in your last post I think the point that you are tying to make is that we dont know what we are talking about. So my question to you is why bother asking us for advice then?
What’s with that ‘bro’ thing anyway?
Ahh… misinterpretation on my part I suppose then. And yes I couldnt agree with Bushy more, knowledge does not absolutely have to come along with experience.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Unfortunately, it is Hagar who thinks that we at T-Nation don’t know what we are talking about, which is why he PMd the OP with a link to another site.
I checked the site out, and it’s another ‘bro’ site. More experienced users, sure, but experience doesn’t go hand-in-hand with knowledge.
Yes, there appear to be more ‘jacked’ physiques over there (not surprising since they have a much larger steroid using population than T-Nation) but again, physiques don’t convey knowledge. Look at William Lewellyn, lol.
Now I didn’t peruse the site thoroughly, since I generally prefer to stay away from sourcing boards due to their bias towards suppliers getting in the way of accurate information. However, it seems to be another run-of-the-mill bro board, with the usual ‘we all agree with each other’ mentality, and not too much in the way of independant thought.
I could be wrong though.
Bushy[/quote]
With all due respect Bushy I think your view of that site is wrong. Sure there is a somewhat sheepish mentality but the same could be said for every board including this one. I see lots of different opinions over there thats why I’m disagreeing with your opinion of that site. Infact I see a ‘we all agree with each other’ mentality here on this thread… well with the exception of me and a few others.
I got one site, this one recommending
Week 1-4___Adrol_______80mgED (20mg 4XD)
Week 1-9___Test-E______450mgE3D
Week 1-9___Masteron____50mgEOD
Week 1-9___A-dex_______0.25mgED
PCT(weeks 10 on up, but starting at 1 for convenience)
Week 1-5___Test-E______100mgEW
Week 6-9___Test-E_____(taperEW) 80, 60, 40, 20 (mgs)
for a first cycle
And the “bro” site that recommends
Test E 500 a week for a first cycle.
How is this bro cycle biased to the sources? Did you read the thread that I emailed him??? It was advocating smaller doses.
Experience doesn’t always = knowledge but knowledge doesn’t always = commonsense.
So I guess I’m the asshole now for recommending the safer approach but IMO its irresponsible to recommend this as a first cycle. What about other people reading this?
Jakebambeeno do what you will. I don’t give a shit. I tried to give you another perspective. SOMETHING TO HELP YOU OUT, but I can tell your just a fuck’n prick. Go fuck yourself!
[quote]Hagar wrote:
So I guess I’m the asshole now for recommending the safer approach but IMO its irresponsible to recommend this as a first cycle. What about other people reading this?
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Actually, Hagar, I and a number of others suggested he think very hard about the amounts he is choosing to run because of issues like possible side effects, especially when running a long ester. This recent cycle of his comes after much discussion (not only this thread). The OP has said that he wants to risk it and that he has his mind made up, I think that’s why you don’t see much more disagreement at this point.
And now I’m just insanely curious. Can somebody PM me the bro-board in question?
Ditto, please.
Come on man… would you grow up? I don’t want to get in a pissing match over this but… The whole reason I got upset was because you said that I would be much better off on some other site because the people on T-Nation don’t have the experience or the physiques to back up what that say (or at least the majority don’t, as you put it). Of course that is going to strike a nerve (and, as you saw, it did). I said I appreciated your attempt to help me, but to act as if your approach is the only way to go is ridiculous! I am open minded to anything, and that is why I like to hear as many perspectives as possible because it, in turn, gives me more insight to make better informed decisions. I don’t hate you, and I for sure don’t have anything against you… I just got upset in regards to that comment… That is all.
[quote]Hagar wrote:
Jakebambeeno do what you will. I don’t give a shit. I tried to give you another perspective. SOMETHING TO HELP YOU OUT, but I can tell your just a fuck’n prick. Go fuck yourself!
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