I’m planning to use two doses of testosterone cypionate (250 mg) with 3 weeks between each dosage.
I’m returning to Olympic weightlifting after a year and a half hiatus (due to injury)and my goals are size and strength. I’m 25 years old and have been training for 3 years. My training nowadays consists of machines, light deadlifts (under 85 kg), and pull-ups/chins (max = 25).
I haven’t found info about the use of test cypionate as a monocycle with this interval between doses. Links would be helpful.
Questions:
a) Is clomiphene recommended for a monocycle like this?
b) On what dosage?
Ummm… You should be taking Test Cyp bi-weekly absolutely not every 3 weeks. There are stickies atop this forum main home page. Read the top 5-6 threads and you will greatly increase your knowledge and understanding.
So rather than merely tell you the answers Im hoping you will learn how to fish rather than just eating one given to you
Have I read this correctly… You’re planning on pinning 250 mg, then waiting 3 weeks and taking another 250 mg?
Aside from being absolutely horrible due to declining blood levels, as mentioned above by others, that works out to slightly over 80 mg of test C per week, which is less than TRT dosage.
Read the stickies and a page or two of threads, particularly those discussing first cycles. Be a man and inject the test cyp twice a week, 250 mg or so per shot. Run arimidex as well; individual requirements vary from 0.25 mg eod to 0.5 mg ed, so start in the middle. Nolva, clomid or torem for PCT.
[quote]vette6 wrote:
I think he wants to take 500mg of cyp every 3 weeks. If so, then FAIL.[/quote]
Yes, this is what I’m planning. It’s the stand-alone cycle described by Cy Wilson on the article I posted above. Why do you think it’s a bad protocol? And what pct would you recommend, for this particular protocol or a similar one?
I have thought about test cyprionate + tren, but I don’t have access to tren.
[quote]vette6 wrote:
I think he wants to take 500mg of cyp every 3 weeks. If so, then FAIL.[/quote]
Yes, this is what I’m planning. It’s the stand-alone cycle described by Cy Wilson on the article I posted above. Why do you think it’s a bad protocol? And what pct would you recommend, for this particular protocol or a similar one?
I have thought about test cyprionate + tren, but I don’t have access to tren. [/quote]
How do you justify injecting every third week? All the answers to your questions and more are immediatly available here:
Look, if you are going to use these drugs, use them to the best of their ability. Dose is up to you, frequency is up to you too. But injecting cypionate once every three weeks makes ZERO sense for a steroid cycle, especially for someone wanting to powerlift. What do you think will happen to your strength at weeks 2 and 3 after you inject?
How about your recovery?
If you want to use 500mgs over 3 weeks, then lets do some simple calculations. There are 21 days in 3 weeks, you want to take 500 mgs. Cypionate should be injected every 3 days ideally, but no longer than every 4-5 days. So, with these numbers, you could inject 100 milligrams of test every 4 days. I assure you, that is a much better dosage schedule instead of dumping hormones into your body every 3 weeks.
Come on, you are a powerlifter. I know you probably rest for 2.5-5 minutes between your exercises, but you do not want the same mentality when it comes to your ergogenic aids. Perhaps you should also think of 1 or 2 different compounds you would want to use? Tren is good, but probably not ideal for you in your first cycle, especially if you have issues with injecting.
test cyp 500mg a week for 10 weeks should do you just fine. cyps 1/2 life is 12.5 days so its a long ester and can be injected once a week or twice its your choice.
cyps 1/2 life is 12.5 days so its a long ester and can be injected once a week or twice its your choice. [/quote]
This is very debateable, if not simply inaccurate. It’s probably closer to 8 days. Results may be extremely similar with either dosing protocol but many people feel more comfortable injecting more often due to smaller fluctuations in blood levels. Injecting more often is a great way to minimize certain side effects.
I totally understand but for first cycles some people dont like to pin 2 times a week and i agree levels will stay more stable but for HRT purposes the give 250mg of sust every other week. I am going to cut and paste ester 1/2 lifes then we can debate them.
Depot steroids Drug Active half-life
Deca-durabolin (Nandrolone decanate) 14 days
Equipoise 14 days
Finaject (trenbolone acetate) 3 days
Primobolan (methenolone enanthate) 10.5 days
Sustanon or Omnadren 15 to 18 days
Testosterone Cypionate 12 days
Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days
Testosterone Suspension 1 day
Winstrol (stanozolol) 1 day
Steroid esters Drug Active half-life
Formate 1.5 days
Acetate 3 days
Propionate 2 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 9 days
Caproate 9 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Heptanoate 10.5 days
Enanthate 10.5 days
Octanoate 12 days
Cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
Decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days
[quote]Flextronics wrote:
I totally understand but for first cycles some people dont like to pin 2 times a week and i agree levels will stay more stable but for HRT purposes the give 250mg of sust every other week. I am going to cut and paste ester 1/2 lifes then we can debate them.
Depot steroids Drug Active half-life
Deca-durabolin (Nandrolone decanate) 14 days
Equipoise 14 days
Finaject (trenbolone acetate) 3 days
Primobolan (methenolone enanthate) 10.5 days
Sustanon or Omnadren 15 to 18 days
Testosterone Cypionate 12 days
Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days
Testosterone Suspension 1 day
Winstrol (stanozolol) 1 day
Steroid esters Drug Active half-life
Formate 1.5 days
Acetate 3 days
Propionate 2 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 9 days
Caproate 9 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Heptanoate 10.5 days
Enanthate 10.5 days
Octanoate 12 days
Cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
Decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days
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You posted that acetate has a longer half life than propionate. Is that a typo?
Sustanon has also been prescribed once per month. That sort of dosing protocol is because some doctors don’t understand how to use the drug most effectively, not because it is the right way to do it. Generally speaking, doctors are hardly the authority on the optimal use of these drugs for performance enhancement.
[quote]idowhatican wrote:
I totally agree with you, but I imagine with the way sustanon is dosed, you could get away with 2 shots a month as HRT or TRT for men, yes?[/quote]
What someone can “get away with” is rarely the best choice. The longest esters in sustanon should be injected once every 10 days at the most. The shorter esters are completely wasted if that is done though. Sustanon itself is a fine drug. The concept of a test blend to act as a ‘time release’ system is faulty.
I just started my first test-cypionate cycle (Cypionax by TP).
Today was the 2nd time I injected 200mg’s test-cyp. I inject every 3 days.
For so long I haven’t felt any difference in my sex drive and no changes in my libido, or is it just too early to tell? I thought that cypionate would have peaked in the first 48h’s, but i havent felt anything.
I know that the results start to show after the 4th week approx. But should I don’t feel any different now that I have injected 400mg’s cyp in the past 4days?
I am always worried if my gear isn’t legit when I start a cycle.
Sorry about the bad english, I hope you understood my point.