First Cycle: Test, Tren, Anavar. Should I Run PCT?

It’s not awesome… this was his first cycle… and he didn’t handle it well either, changes in mentality were profound

Don’t encourage this kind of behavior, if someone makes an individualistic, informed choice to do this… fine, but encouraging said behavior is irresponsible

And no… his health very well may not be fine. I can link case reports of acute myocardial infarction stemming from tren use (lower dosages, similar durations)

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His ability to take 2gs of Tren makes him a beast all in itself any other things will just add to that status and make him a bigger beast lol

His profile picture he appears to have a physique.

I’m sure he is OK. Not saying it didn’t impact his health but he’s still living and breathing

It doesn’t, he had treatment emergent diabetes, created a post about almost slipping into a coma. Started messing around/untethering the fabric of an 8 year relationship, stated numerous times “I’d pick tren over this girl” etc… towards the end said his body was giving out (turning yellow) comes off… still doesn’t come off and instead switches to other compounds. Refuses to get bloods, monitoring of any kind… is he a beast? Yes, have you seen his lifts… but that’s like 99 percent down to drugs now

The man isn’t well, and encouraging said behaviour is not the right way to go about things. He is living/breathing, but in a few years he probably won’t be

I can drink a bottle of vodka (bout 25 standard drinks), get up the next day like nothing happened, do the same thing again (I’ve done this before, happened around my 18th birthday)… does that make me a beast or an idiot (there’s no notion of tolerance build up here, high tolerance runs in the family)… and no, 2g tren daily + orals + test is roughly just as unhealthy, except for the fact acute alcohol intake (to excess) IS ACUTE, systemically using those doses for months on end has a cumulative effect similar to binge drinking except the body has no time to recover

I’d rather try shards than do what this guy did

Well he’s a full grown man and he can make his own decisions for himself. If he wants to inject 2gs of Tren a week until he passes away that’s his decision. He obviously enjoys the lifestyle maybe it’s one thing in this world that makes him happy

As humans we all know right from wrong, we know we should eat healthy, we know we should excercise, we all know we shouldn’t do hard drugs, we all know we should keep ourselves clean & shower. These are things we are taught from a young age either from our parents, school ect

I’m sure he knows what he is doing but still made his decision, he is informed on this subject. I’m not encouraging it but I’m not gonna lie he’s a fucking beast and I think it’s awesome he can take that much Tren.

That being said I’m not gonna tell him what he can & cant do.

Unless you’re mentally incompetent to make such life altering decisions and/or you are disillusioned/unaware/in denial of the potential ramifications.

I’m not going to tell him what he can and can’t do… but if you read his prior posts, there’s clearly some semblance of instability/ mental illness and falsified reality present in which he legitimately believes he can get away with anything/ is invisible. Someone like this needs to back off the gear (even if briefly) and seek therapy… not use 2g tren… Hell I’m going to therapy now due to my specified issues (particularly pertaining to how I’m angry with everyone).

It’s probably been noted… (@zeek1414 and @blshaw) can probably back this up as they were here when it started… but my mentality, demeanour and way I deal with things on this forum has changed dramatically, albeit slowly over the past six months. As I’ve systemically let people walk all over me… repeatedly in the real world my overall irritableness increased until it burst, the result in an unreal24278 that simply points out bullshit or unethical behaviour as I see it… this has carried on to real life, however it’s becoming a problem as I’m calling people out fairly frequently now.

Prior I’d simply keep its all to myself or defuse the situation by acting passive, exclaiming points of argument to whichever parties were behaving inappropriately. As I’ve become more fed up with certain people in general however I tend to point things out and outright exclaim “that’s not right, you’re going to hurt yourself or others”, and if the individual becomes aggressive, instead of defusing the situation I’ll call him/her out on their immaturity rather than walk away. This isn’t to say I’m the individual who will get into a physical altercation, that isn’t the case. I don’t believe in violence unless it’s absolutely required (say someone throws a punch at me first)… that being said, nowadays my tolerance for bullshit… my bullshitometer if you will, has dropped from infinite to almost zero… this man at stake isn’t stable and needs help, not more gear… at least that’s my perception

Why am I telling you this? Because I’m seeking help, going to therapy etc… I’m able to decipher when there’s a clear problem regarding my mentality, and there are some deep rooted issues I need to work with/figure out. I may not be nearly as bad as the individual we are talking about, however I have the insight to say “shit, I can’t do this on my own… I need help”, not “huh, I was on 2g tren, coming off now but still permablasting grams despite the fact that I’m so angry I want to kill people when they cross in front of me”

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This is straight up one of the dumbest things anyone has ever said. Ever.

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I disagree with that statement I think it was one of the most intelligent things I’ve ever wrote.

You cannot sit there and tell me, ingesting 2 grams of Tren a week isn’t impressive?

All I’m telling you is that you’re dumb. I think the question “is taking lethal doses of heavy drugs impressive” answers itself, for people who aren’t mouth-breathers. I could ask the question “is typing on an Internet forum that you took lethal doses of a heavy drug and survived while taking no pictures of your supposed stage-ready ultra-jacked physique despite the fact that you’ve rocked a half-naked selfie for the duration of your stay here impressive?” but I think it’s also a gimme.

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Do you like Wieners?

It’s a yes or no question flappinit

Is this a diversion to make you look less dumb? Creepy people can be dumb too, y’know.

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Damnit you’re a genius.

You’re using my own diversion tactic as a diversion for yourself to avoid answering if you like Weiner or not.

Very well played strategic man.

Seriously though it’s a yes or no question

I didn’t flip out on you? @flappinit

I’m not using tren either, never have

I did get the refund btw :slight_smile:

I believe the guy has taken 2g tren… he’s a moron, has significant psychiatric disturbances… have you read his previous posts, what tren did to him physically and mentally… still said “tren is side effect free for me”, was talking about how he wanted to beat up anyone who walked in front of him etc

Had serious glucose tolerance issues, refused to get bloods or even moniter glucose (even after almost slipping into a diabetic coma)…after ALL this he upped the tren dose from 1g to 2g… now he’s off… the tren, but continues to permablast HIGH dose testosterone and orals

Is dissolutions, thinks guys like Boston Lloyd are the norm/that perhaps they live long lives, stated he would choose tren over his VERY serious gf, who he has pinned forcibly into reluctantly allowing an open relationship (I assume she’s afraid of losing him)

This is the tip of the iceberg, go read this guys posts… encouraging HIM by saying “that’s mightily impressive” is very irresponsible, the man at stake won’t take advice from anyone and will probably kneel over in the next few years if he continually blasts megadoses without a break. I know some can get away with 500mg test for 20 years or so on end… it’s individualistc and whatnot and will depend somewhat on lifestyle, but still… it’s overkill… and this guy will be using more like 1500mg year round, with orals… he will probably drop in 3-5 years whether he’s willing to adknowledge it or not. His level of abuse was NOT the norm, and given his impulsive nature and change in demeanor on gear, steroids aren’t cut out for him either unless he’s able to employ specific boundaries, however I’d say more “not cut out for him” at all… and his reasoning/excuse of “but I’m competing”… this was you’re first fucking untested meet, and you haven’t even competed yet? Are you fucking kidding me?

Yes it’s an individualistc choice to make, but there’s choosing to take a risk and being a fucking idiot, unless you’re entire career/income or life depends on it, being a fucking idiot like that showcases a profound lack of knowledge on the subject (uninformed) or mental instability/a death wish.

Similar to me and alcohol, barring very special occasions I keep myself away from drinking (EUOPE DOESNT COUNT DAMMIT!!!), as I have the tendency to abuse alcohol, thus I choose to stay away from it as often as possible (i can be in a bar/at a party etc but I’ll choose to refrain from purchasing anything as I tend to continually want more after I start)… this man should stay away from gear

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Bro DYEL?

Bro DYEL??

do you even lift bro?

Grow up dude… trolling and/or giving off defensive replies won’t get us anywhere… just highlights a lack of maturity

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You’re the biggest troll here honestly. You take the internet way to serious

Not the internet in general… but here? Yes

This is a valid community, one of the few places I feel legitimately accepted. I may not be an authoritarian voice but I value this community for its members. Despite being centered around bodybuilding, this community isn’t blatantly pro steroid… we are however far more progressive than modern society and thus we don’t denounce or stigmatise users… instead we encourage the notion of honest/open talk without judgement, encourage the dispensing of well informed, quality advice and tactics regarding harm minimisation…

What this community does NOT condone however, is blatantly stupid behavior, encouragement of said behavior, trolling or bullying… if you want to fuck around or encourage bad behavior, find another forum… I suggest r/steroids, full of debauchery/irresponsible behavior and naïve meatheads who have no idea they’ve only got about 15-20 years left

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