Hey so wanted to start my first cycle been 2 years i been training started at 140lbs im 170lbs now
Im 22years 6ft3 10% bf and people are probebly gonna say that for my weight i shouldnt be doing test but im really looking for that edge.
So i was thinking for my first cycle test prop 75mg ED for 11weeks im not sure about the dosage for my weight 525mg test p per week is alot?
And for PCT cycle i was thinking of clomid and nolvadex but for the dosage im very lost.
Nolva was thinking during cycle and 3 weeks after cycle at 20mg ED and clomid after cycle for 3weeks 50mg ED
So you guys got any tips, im taking enough cal and proteins my weight still rising i just that edge that everyones looking for.
Thanks
Your looking for a easy way out. Your 170lbs at 6 fucking 3. You haven’t even started to reach you natural level you could easily hit 200lbs.
Some one will help you but I won’t. You have not done anything deserve being on AAS and have not put in your time. So be douche if you want but you don’t need gear at this point.
Okay this is your opinion im just trying to make a proper cycle im just tryin to make sure my dosage are correcct to not shoot myself in foot, im asking for help even if you think at my weight this is not proper to be using i will most likely still do it.
Im a idiote because what im whilling to do for what i belive in because im dedicated and divoted.
You degrading me because im risking my own health and no1 elses im a idiot?
I think youre the idiot, with the lack of response.
Doesnt show you have any knowledge about this post.
Thanks anyways.
170 at 6’3 is skinny dude, im guessing your diet needs serious work before doing a cycle. Cycle isnt gonna do dick for you if you don’t have your diet and routine aren’t dialed in
[quote]BUDs wrote:
170 at 6’3 is skinny dude, im guessing your diet needs serious work before doing a cycle. Cycle isnt gonna do dick for you if you don’t have your diet and routine aren’t dialed in[/quote]
yes 170 at 6.3 is skinny but i started at 140 tho… and thats kinda the reason why i wanna get on gear and my calories atm are at 3000 in food and 1500 in shakes and proteins at 260g so i think my diet is good atm, i know i can intake more if im taking test.
Your not outta shape but your still skinny. If your relying on gear to put on weight once your off you’ll lose the weight. You need to eat even more for the added weight gain to help keep it.
The problem most people have is they think they eat a lot but they don’t. Even if you eat 6 times a day and eat 3000 cals that’s probably not enough so guess what, eat more! Even if it takes 12 meals a day and 8000 cals a day you gotta do what you have to.
Your not ready for AAS yet, you’ve got a few more years of eating ahead of you. You need to have a solid foundation before you consider using gear, otherwise your wasting your time and money.
Even though you think you know it all, you don’t! Listed to Reed and BUDs, these guys have know knowledge and even if what they are saying isn’t what your wanting to hear, it’s the advice you need to take on board and learn from. If you choose to be and idiot and not listen to the very people you were expecting advice from then that’s your choice.
[quote]Rxx wrote:
Your not ready for AAS yet, you’ve got a few more years of eating ahead of you. You need to have a solid foundation before you consider using gear, otherwise your wasting your time and money.
Even though you think you know it all, you don’t! Listed to Reed and BUDs, these guys have know knowledge and even if what they are saying isn’t what your wanting to hear, it’s the advice you need to take on board and learn from. If you choose to be and idiot and not listen to the very people you were expecting advice from then that’s your choice.
NOW GO EAT MOTHERFU#KER!!![/quote]
Lol alright then what would be (proper weight) to start a cycle at my height?
Invest in an AI, .5 mg eod all throughout cycle and adjust from there, HCG is a good idea too.
PCT 40/30/20/20 nolva or 100/100/50/50 clomid or some hodge podge of both. I’ll leave the details to your fastidious research.
Now IMO the sentiment being echo’d here is the real deal, there is a great misconception concerning what these drugs actually do for you and how fleeting the effects really are.
You can hope to hold on to a little bit of your first few cycles based a lot upon how shitty your training has been up to this point but truly thats about it unless you plan on using for long periods of time, and you can kiss that goodbye at 3000kcal a day being a 6’3 ectomorph.
You really really need to focus on eating enough, too many people think that eating a protein bar, cooking a piece of chicken EOD, cracking open a greek yogurt here and there and eating any fad health item that some magazine or skinny kid with abs tells them to means that their diet is fucking SPOT ON; consider QUANTITY sometimes over quality. If you feel hungry at any point throughout the day, you are doing it wrong. Learn to plan out what you will eat for an entire day, and prepare as much as you can ahead of time so you don’t break the plan for lack of time. I like liquid things I can carry around, you can blend up and drink anything, without having to sit down and eat or stop what you are doing. Live by the 3 C’s: cook, clean, and consume; if you are spending more time in the gym each day than you do with the C’s, you are doing it wrong.
[quote]Rxx wrote:
Your not ready for AAS yet, you’ve got a few more years of eating ahead of you. You need to have a solid foundation before you consider using gear, otherwise your wasting your time and money.
Even though you think you know it all, you don’t! Listed to Reed and BUDs, these guys have know knowledge and even if what they are saying isn’t what your wanting to hear, it’s the advice you need to take on board and learn from. If you choose to be and idiot and not listen to the very people you were expecting advice from then that’s your choice.
NOW GO EAT MOTHERFU#KER!!![/quote]
Lol alright then what would be (proper weight) to start a cycle at my height?[/quote]
[quote]Rxx wrote:
Your not ready for AAS yet, you’ve got a few more years of eating ahead of you. You need to have a solid foundation before you consider using gear, otherwise your wasting your time and money.
Even though you think you know it all, you don’t! Listed to Reed and BUDs, these guys have know knowledge and even if what they are saying isn’t what your wanting to hear, it’s the advice you need to take on board and learn from. If you choose to be and idiot and not listen to the very people you were expecting advice from then that’s your choice.
NOW GO EAT MOTHERFU#KER!!![/quote]
Lol alright then what would be (proper weight) to start a cycle at my height?[/quote]
Not that there’s a proper weight but your stats and pics show your not exactly ready. You laugh now but how do you expect to keep the gains after the cycle if you don’t eat enough and based upon your response saying your diet is pretty much on point proves again your not ready.
Honestly the only weak part is the amout of time i sleep and at the time i sleep.
I would have more time preparing meals and eating more if my sleep would be normal.
So this is my Sleep schedule i would go to bed around 4-5am and wake up around 3-4pm.
If i would be able to fix this i probebly be gaining much more.
And i can also say the first year and a half i was training incorrecly…
Wasnt training legs, was doing alot of isolathing excersise…
They say that ectomorph should train 45min to 1hmax but i dont feel i worked enough in that amount of time
I usally stay 1h30 and on back and abs day 2h
Don’t make the mistake of doing a cycle right now. I trained for 2 years and decided I was going to do a cycle, and it was the worst decision I have ever made in my training career. I’m not against gear, in fact I’m a huge advocate, but not until you have got everything right. I’m the perfect example, I went on without realizing what it takes outside of the gym.
People said “you’ve got to learn to eat” and I thought I was. In short, I didn’t have a clue. Now that I do know what it takes, I’m more prepared for my cycles. (even though I think cycling is a waste, but that’s another topic). Keep lifting HEAVY and hard, eat big all the time, and sleep. When you get up around 200, then consider gear. Just understand that it may take a while to get there, but this is a marathon, not a sprint.
[quote]Nulls wrote:
Honestly the only weak part is the amout of time i sleep and at the time i sleep.
I would have more time preparing meals and eating more if my sleep would be normal.
So this is my Sleep schedule i would go to bed around 4-5am and wake up around 3-4pm.
If i would be able to fix this i probebly be gaining much more.
And i can also say the first year and a half i was training incorrecly…
Wasnt training legs, was doing alot of isolathing excersise…
They say that ectomorph should train 45min to 1hmax but i dont feel i worked enough in that amount of time
I usally stay 1h30 and on back and abs day 2h
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Just read this, so you have only been training legs 6 months??? Using gear now would be a joke. Keep training those legs and you should see some pretty good gains without gear.
