First Cycle Test Cyp

Pharma
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What’s up everyone, after speaking to people and reading a lot here I decided to keep it simple for the first time around. I’ll lay it out and I also have a few questions regarding what’s available to me and how to dose…

weeks 1-10:
test cyp: 500mg/wk E3D
-I want to front load this and was thinking just use 500mg first shot, would you suggest any higher?

weeks 1-10: (2-10)?
Adex: .5mg EOD
-Quick question with Adex, start immediately(because of front load) or 1-2 weeks in?

weeks 12-14
PCT: Nolva
-my only issue is my guy only has 50mg, would it be best to just do maybe 50/25/25/25 or somehow find out a weight measurement to use to cut 1/5 and 2/5 off(obviously annoying and very meticulous) and do the typical 40/40/20/20. Or would 25/25/25/25 be okay due to length of the cycle… There’s obviously a lot I can do with it so any suggestions would help.

On a side note, I may have a few weeks of Var available, best to front load to really kick start it or maybe bridge to pct?

Thanks a lot.

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you could probably get away with starting the adex at week 2 but I would probably just start it like 5 days into the cycle. Couldn’t hurt.

Do the nolva at 50/50/25/25, don’t fuck about trying to break a fifth off a pill. That’s just silly. Remember that your PCT starts 2 weeks after your last pin, not at the start of week 12.

As for the var it’s really just a matter of preference whether or not to run it at the beginning or end. I would say that for a first run you might as well just run it at the start. You’ll get pretty much instant strength gains from it which is very motivating.

good luck!

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Where is your HCG?

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drop the nova. i would go hcg and arimadex for pct. You are only running cyp and at a mid dose…adex that early in will only hinder your gains. personally i would waite until at least week 5 or six.

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explain this:

[quote]w83emuscle wrote:
drop the nova. i would go hcg and arimadex for pct.[/quote]

and this please:

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[quote]w83emuscle wrote:
drop the nova. i would go hcg and arimadex for pct. You are only running cyp and at a mid dose…adex that early in will only hinder your gains. personally i would waite until at least week 5 or six. [/quote]

First, do not listen to this ^^^. Adex = AI, Nolva = SERM, SERM for PCT, AI for E2 control on cycle.

Second, I will try to address each as you asked:

I do not see anything wrong with frontloading, however, with this being your first run, it is difficult to recommend because you do not know how your body will react. That and you are using cyp, means that if anything does go wrong, your brakes will work like a 1909 Model T, with sides lasting up to two weeks.

It is preferred to start adex a little early as it does take time to build and stabalize in your system. Again, since this is you first run, there will be some toying around with dosages to find the sweet spot where you have control of extra E2, but at the same time not completely diminishing it.

50/25/25 would be fine. There is a lot of faith behind the heavy first day also as a way to really kickstart the HPTA-axis, so something like 100 or 150 first day, 50 for days 2-10, 25 for days 11-21. Either imo will work as the dosage and length you are planning is not one to be worried about.

Var could be used to kickstart, but again, this is your first run, why complicate things. Save the var for future runs. Seeing as it is so damn expensive anyway, maybe get some more for a full cycle when looking to harden up.

As VT also stated, use HCG on cycle. It will make the PCT more effective and personally I believe that it lowers the amount of time on PCT as SERMS can give you some interesting eyesight side effects that I wouldn’t want for anything longer than I have to.

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[quote]w83emuscle wrote:
drop the nova. i would go hcg and arimadex for pct. You are only running cyp and at a mid dose…adex that early in will only hinder your gains. personally i would waite until at least week 5 or six. [/quote]

Terrible

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Alright, I’m going to see if i can get my hands on HCG… If not Nolva will have to suffice, I may or may not front load, I guess I’ll make the decision on that based on some more reading/ the first day… Var I will save for future runs, and the Nolva protocol that Big mentioned, again will do some reading into that. Thanks alot guys if anyone else has some more input that’d be great!