First Cycle Review and Advice

Pharma / TRT
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Long time lurker, not so much in the steroid forums but I’ve been doing a fair bit of reading as of late. Looking to do my first cycle and have come up with the following based on some research:

Cycle:

Test E 500mg/wk front load first two shots 750mg per shot

Aromasin from week 3 onwards 12.5 ED and until two weeks after final shot (to allow for test e ester to be broken down fully)

HCG 250iu 2x/wk weeks 3-12 then 250iu /day for 10 days up to 4 days before serm

Two weeks after last test e shot start PCT:

Nolva
40/40/20/20
Clomid
50/50/25/25

Questions:

  1. Do I need Nolva and Clomid for my PCT? I hear some yay, some nay. I’m thinking only one but would like a second opinion from a vet.
  2. I believe if it’s one or the other Nolva is my preferred choice for PCT, correct?
  3. I hope I won’t have any issues with gyno on cycle because of the aromasin but if I do I would have Letro on hand and use until symptoms subside. Is that correct?

Info:
31 y/o male
5’9 180
bf 15%ish (never tested it)

Also, what would you look to pay for a cycle like this. I live in the great white north and I sourced an UG but based on the price list, I’m looking at almost $600 to do the cycle described above. That seems really steep and wondering if someone can confirm that. Not that I care that much if it’s good gear but I just like to know when I’m getting fucked.

I appreciate and welcome any help, advice or questions. Want to do it right or not at all.

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  1. you do not need nolva and clomid for pct. I always preferred nolva
  2. all Ai’s lower estrogen by roughly the same amount, aromasin is optimally dosed 2x a day, take with food.

you are being fucked

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

  1. you do not need nolva and clomid for pct. I always preferred nolva
  2. all Ai’s lower estrogen by roughly the same amount, aromasin is optimally dosed 2x a day, take with food.

you are being fucked
[/quote]

Thank you

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also begin taking your AI in week 1 even with long estered gear

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I will do that. Thank you for your suggestions.

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Ok, so after some more research I’ve decided to modify my cycle. The main reason being that I would like to go for a shorter cycle with my understanding being that it is easier to recover from the sides (libido being the main one) of the shorter cycles as a very general rule. I’ve got test prop on hand and plan on running a 6 week cycle of 490mg/week (100mg/ml test with 0.70ml per injection ED) with d-bol at 30-40mg / day depending on how bad the back pumps get. This should let me get my feet wet so to speak and see exactly how I respond for future cycles. So with that being said…

Week 1-6

Test @ 490mg/week
Arimidex @ 0.5 EOD (adjust as necessary to keep estrogen at a reasonable level)

Week 1-4

Dbol @ 30-40mg/day

Week 2-6

HCG @ 1000mg/wk (2x500iu shot)

PCT Week 7-10

Nolva 40/40/20/20

Week 7 only

Taper Arimidex 0.25/day

I have one question on the HCG. How exactly should it be run in a cycle like this? I know you don’t want it running into PCT and you want the test cleared before starting PCT. So 3 days after my last test prop shot I should start my PCT as I understand it, and I want the HCG cleared out so I want to give that about 4 days to piss off. Last HCG shot with my second last test shot? Thoughts? Anything else that looks completely out to lunch?

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Run hcg 250iu 3x a week from week 1, stop 4-5 days before pct

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[quote]BUDs wrote:
Run hcg 250iu 3x a week from week 1, stop 4-5 days before pct[/quote]

Awesome, thanks for the input.